Review
AFV Club: 8 Inch Howitzer M1
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Posted: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 - 01:34 AM UTC

Rick Taylor shares with us a review of the latest release of the 8 Inch Howitzer M1 from AFV Club in 1/35th scale.
Read the ReviewIf you have comments or questions please post them here.
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Posted: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 - 01:38 AM UTC
OK
This sounds like a "must have"

/ Robin
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Posted: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 - 03:23 AM UTC
It looks really nice. I may have to get one too.
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Posted: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 - 05:58 AM UTC
I liked the M115 kit but it required as noted resin wheels/tires to backdate it to WW2 version. I am glad to see they have finally released the one that most modelers would prefer to have.
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Posted: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 - 07:53 AM UTC
Rick, Thanks for the great review! As you know, I like to build my Artillery “in trail”. So I’m wondering about the suspension in this kit— in the old AFV M1 and M115 Korean War versions, some modification has to be done to “lift” the main suspension and brake system to build it in trail. Is there an option in the new kit for this?
VR, Russ
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Posted: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 - 01:42 PM UTC
Russ,
As you know, I like my artillery pieces laid, safe, and ready to fire.

I won't be able to start the build on this kit for a couple of weeks; so I'm going solely from the instructions and the TM. The instructions don't address the height of the bogey assembly for travelling vs. firing position. They only address the new bogey lock and the position of the travel lock. The illustrations in the instructions all show the bogey assembly / wheels down in traveling position. I suspect that I'll have to adjust the assembly up to get the wheels up and off the ground for firing.
Rick
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Posted: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 - 04:08 PM UTC
Thanks Rick-- I'll be waiting to see what you find. Remember those guns have to get from here to there before rounds go downrange!
VR, Russ
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Posted: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 - 06:16 PM UTC
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Posted: Saturday, June 15, 2019 - 03:07 AM UTC
Great review and nice update to this kit.
My only complaint is I wish they would go away from the rubber wheels and gone to injection mold.
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Posted: Monday, June 17, 2019 - 12:34 AM UTC
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Great review and nice update to this kit.
My only complaint is I wish they would go away from the rubber wheels and gone to injection mold.
FOR SURE!!!
I'm hoping that DEF or some other after-market company will come out with "weighted/bulged" resin Wheel/Tire sets... I HATE vinyl Tracks and Tires...,
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Posted: Monday, June 17, 2019 - 12:39 AM UTC
Hi, Pawel!
I couldn't care LESS about "box art". What counts for me is what one actually finds INSIDE the box. Once I finish a model kit, the box it came in gets cut up in order to lay flat, and then it goes to "Re-Cycling"...
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Posted: Monday, June 17, 2019 - 12:48 AM UTC
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Russ,
As you know, I like my artillery pieces laid, safe, and ready to fire.
I won't be able to start the build on this kit for a couple of weeks; so I'm going solely from the instructions and the TM. The instructions don't address the height of the bogey assembly for travelling vs. firing position. They only address the new bogey lock and the position of the travel lock. The illustrations in the instructions all show the bogey assembly / wheels down in traveling position. I suspect that I'll have to adjust the assembly up to get the wheels up and off the ground for firing.
Rick
Hi, All!
Looks like a REALLY NICE kit!!!

This is just me being me:
When I buy Towed Artillery, I get at least two kits of same. One is for display "in Firing mode", and the other will be hitched to the appropriate Prime Mover...
That said, isn't it about time to see a Mack NO. 7 1/2-tonner in PLASTIC..? These model companies will come out with all kinds of obscure WWII German stuff and "Paper Panzers", yet they will still ignore US/Allied MAJOR "PLAYERS"...
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Posted: Saturday, July 06, 2019 - 01:16 PM UTC
I'm with you. A Mack NO would be a great addition as an artillery prime mover.
Rick
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Posted: Sunday, July 07, 2019 - 04:46 AM UTC
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I'm with you. A Mack NO would be a great addition as an artillery prime mover.
Rick
I'm with you guys on this. A few months ago, Michael Koenig (165tpsc) implied something was in the works-- I wonder? For towed Artillery, the Mack NO seems to be the one big piece missing from the US WWII kit modeling inventory. And certainly necessary for pulling this new AFV club Artillery.
VR, Russ

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Posted: Monday, July 08, 2019 - 12:13 AM UTC
Sorry to say but I have had no further reports from my source on that subject.
It has been all quiet on the Eastern front!
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Posted: Monday, July 08, 2019 - 02:39 AM UTC
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Sorry to say but I have had no further reports from my source on that subject.
It has been all quiet on the Eastern front!
Well that's disappointing! Hard to believe we've got an M4 tractor, a Diamond T series, numerous GMCs, Dodges, and other equipment known for pulling allied artillery and AT guns, but no Mack. Let's hope somebody steps up-- I'm not sure I want to pull a Koenig and scratch build one just yet!
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Posted: Saturday, July 13, 2019 - 06:06 AM UTC
The other prime mover that would be great to have is the M5 High-Speed Tractor. There are lots of photos of the M5 towing the 8-inch and 155mm. It is only available from Commander Models (US) in resin. Hobby Fan (TW) also has one in resin but it is nearly impossible to find for sale. I have heard that both are a bear to assemble due to molding and fit issues in addition to the normal resin hassle. It would be lovely to have this released in styrene.
Rick

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Posted: Saturday, July 13, 2019 - 07:05 AM UTC
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Sorry to say but I have had no further reports from my source on that subject.
It has been all quiet on the Eastern front!
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Good News! Had a communication just two nights ago.
I am glad to report the project is still alive and moving forward. There is still hope for a Mack NO after all!
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Posted: Saturday, July 13, 2019 - 07:43 AM UTC
Thanks for the update Mike. I sure would be nice to have a kit.

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Posted: Sunday, July 14, 2019 - 03:13 AM UTC
Local monument display:

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Posted: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - 05:56 AM UTC
I've completed the build and the built review is live on Armorama at
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/review/14731The kit went together well and looks great on the display shelf.
Rick

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Posted: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - 06:35 AM UTC
Rick an extremely well done review - thank you for your efforts.
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Russ - As to posing the boggy in travel vs. firing position there are four "over travel" cables (they look like tiny tow cables) that are part of the two axle boggy that would have to be either lengthened and/or shortened to achieve a flexible transport position.
In my case, after assembly, I just snipped these cables at their least visible point to free up the movement of the boggy. (And of course, do not glue the boggy at its' central pivot point but rather allow it to rock fore and aft on this pivot bearing.)

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Sorry for the poor quality of this drawing:


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Posted: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - 06:52 AM UTC
Photo reference walk-around for the 8 inch gun can be found at:
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/279452