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ICM: Wehrmacht Off Road CarsPosted: Thursday, June 27, 2019 - 10:14 PM UTC
ICM has continued to combine model offerings in order to provide something different, This time they have combined two Wehrmacht Off Road Cars from the early war period in 1/35th scale.
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SpeedyJ
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Posted: Friday, June 28, 2019 - 02:40 AM UTC
Nice! Will wait a bit purchasing this set. Pricing should be ok. Hope there will be more to come of those sets. Brilliant idea from ICM. I agree with the lack of driver sets, very welcome IMHO.
Next level would be adding Anhänger to LKW's?
That is a real Niche!
Please jump to that level ICM, please!
Kind regards,
Robert Jan
Next level would be adding Anhänger to LKW's?
That is a real Niche!
Please jump to that level ICM, please!
Kind regards,
Robert Jan
bill_c
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Posted: Friday, June 28, 2019 - 02:58 AM UTC
These are EXACTLY the kind of thing needed for dioramas in war: support vehicles that made the tanks and "star" AFVs able to perform.
SpeedyJ
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Posted: Friday, June 28, 2019 - 03:07 AM UTC
I copy you on that Bill.
bill_c
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Posted: Friday, June 28, 2019 - 05:19 AM UTC
I hope Sprue Bros. will carry this kit and the others like it and not just ICM's aircraft.
leviman
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Posted: Friday, June 28, 2019 - 05:53 AM UTC
Nice set. Don't think that's a Mercedes shown in the pictures ?
Posted: Friday, June 28, 2019 - 08:42 AM UTC
I was sure the L1500 was a Mercedes product, who produced it then?
Pak_40
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Posted: Friday, June 28, 2019 - 09:15 AM UTC
Darren, I hope this helps...
Steyr and Horch also made 1500A's. Although, Horch was a limited batch as it was hated by the troops. Steyr later became very prolific and was very popular. Tamiya makes the Steyr 1500A Kfz21 and Kfz70. They also male the older Horch 1500A w/SS combo Kfz69/70 as well.
Chris
Steyr and Horch also made 1500A's. Although, Horch was a limited batch as it was hated by the troops. Steyr later became very prolific and was very popular. Tamiya makes the Steyr 1500A Kfz21 and Kfz70. They also male the older Horch 1500A w/SS combo Kfz69/70 as well.
Chris
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Posted: Friday, June 28, 2019 - 09:46 AM UTC
Nice set, thanks for the heads up Darren. However I have to agree with Alex, that doesn't look like the Merc L1500, which was a replacement along with the Steyr for the Horch type vehicle due to over complication (all wheel drive and steering on the original Horch 40). It looks more like the smaller Stoewer made car, which was also (like the Horch) one of the Schell series standard cars. This was found to be far too complicated to be worth producing and was replaced by the Kubelwagen.
More like this:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/massimofoti/42634769871
than this:
http://www.asphm.com/vehicules/mercedes_l1500_mannschaftswagen/mercedes_l1500_a.html
More like this:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/massimofoti/42634769871
than this:
http://www.asphm.com/vehicules/mercedes_l1500_mannschaftswagen/mercedes_l1500_a.html
RobinNilsson
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Posted: Friday, June 28, 2019 - 11:14 AM UTC
1500 designates a load capacity
1500A means Allrad (all wheels driven)
1500S means Strasse (road, street)
Steyr, Mercedes, Opel (Blitz as 1.5 ton and 3 ton versions) and maybe others made trucks/cars with 1500 load rating and different body work.
Kfz. 70 was a role in the organisation that could be fulfilled by vehicles from different manufacturers.
It does seem that ICM have confused the vehicle types since what the CAD-images show is a Horch and a Stoewer.
Mercedes 1500A
Steyr command car, for officers
For ordinary troops
Truck/Vans
The box art says Kfz 1, L1500A, Horch typ 108
and the CAD images show the 108 and a Kfz 1 (Stoewer).
Could it be that ICM have not provided an image of the L1500A? They have all three vehicles in their current range ...
/ Robin
Posted: Saturday, June 29, 2019 - 06:27 AM UTC
I am sorry for the mistake, but I will say that the mistake has led to a great conversation covering this upcoming release and adding some great information on it; so many news stories come and go without comment this I enjoy. Thank you all.
RobinNilsson
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Posted: Saturday, June 29, 2019 - 08:18 AM UTC
Ahh
ICM only provides images of two of the vehicles so it was a VERY easy mistake to make
Cheers / Robin
ICM only provides images of two of the vehicles so it was a VERY easy mistake to make
Cheers / Robin