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I studied the M165 during my Prefix-5 nuclear targeting days. Sadly, it’s historical impact is often overshadowed by later developments,

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Hmmm...Like the SADM? I was on a Green Light team. I'm all too familiar with that archaic piece of technology. They still have one in Albuquerque at the Atomic Museum.

Hmmm...Like the SADM? I was on a Green Light team.

Hmmm...I was just looking at the CAD “build-up-shots” in that Ebay posting. Drooling I think, until I noticed the M65 carriage close-ups. The CAD drawings look suspiciously like the ones from the Dragon kit, including the molded on firing platforms. The Ebay posting shows the manufacturer is out of Macao. But I think the Ebay ad is using some of the CAD shots of the Dragon kit—I hope that’s all, because if you’re going to drop $259 for this kit, you sure don’t want molded on platforms. That’s one of the biggest errors in the Dragon kit— you can’t display the weapon in firing order as the platforms are all molded up. This new kit does have some PE diagrams which appear to be gratings for the platforms though. The plot thickens....here’s the ad, look for yourself:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/202884174100

VR, Russ

Simple surgery. Parts G32 and G23 swing inward to lie flat against the side bulkhead of the carrier.

Lookin at my TMs collection I found this.

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Hmmm...I was just looking at the CAD “build-up-shots” in that Ebay posting. Drooling I think, until I noticed the M65 carriage close-ups. The CAD drawings look suspiciously like the ones from the Dragon kit, including the molded on firing platforms. The Ebay posting shows the manufacturer is out of Macao. But I think the Ebay ad is using some of the CAD shots of the Dragon kit—I hope that’s all, because if you’re going to drop $259 for this kit, you sure don’t want molded on platforms. That’s one of the biggest errors in the Dragon kit— you can’t display the weapon in firing order as the platforms are all molded up. This new kit does have some PE diagrams which appear to be gratings for the platforms though. The plot thickens....here’s the ad, look for yourself:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/202884174100

VR, Russ

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I get the impression that the tricky bit will be to show them folded for transport. Some plastic surgery needed I think
/ Robin

Hmmm...I was just looking at the CAD “build-up-shots” in that Ebay posting. Drooling I think, until I noticed the M65 carriage close-ups. The CAD drawings look suspiciously like the ones from the Dragon kit, including the molded on firing platforms. The Ebay posting shows the manufacturer is out of Macao. But I think the Ebay ad is using some of the CAD shots of the Dragon kit—I hope that’s all, because if you’re going to drop $259 for this kit, you sure don’t want molded on platforms. That’s one of the biggest errors in the Dragon kit— you can’t display the weapon in firing order as the platforms are all molded up. This new kit does have some PE diagrams which appear to be gratings for the platforms though. The plot thickens....here’s the ad, look for yourself:

Neither I nor at least five others will have any problems at all...

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Hmmm...I was just looking at the CAD “build-up-shots” in that Ebay posting. Drooling I think, until I noticed the M65 carriage close-ups. The CAD drawings look suspiciously like the ones from the Dragon kit, including the molded on firing platforms. The Ebay posting shows the manufacturer is out of Macao. But I think the Ebay ad is using some of the CAD shots of the Dragon kit—I hope that’s all, because if you’re going to drop $259 for this kit, you sure don’t want molded on platforms. That’s one of the biggest errors in the Dragon kit— you can’t display the weapon in firing order as the platforms are all molded up. This new kit does have some PE diagrams which appear to be gratings for the platforms though. The plot thickens....here’s the ad, look for yourself:

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No mystery or other dramatic devices here. ilovekit, Easy Model, Hobby Boss and Trumpeter Wa San Development Macau Limited are all part of the Trumpeter empire. Wa San is a "playthings, toys, gifts, hobby products importer and distributor".

Trumpeter Wa San Development (Macau) Co. Ltd.

Someone could be selling kits that have not been produced yet. The delivery will drag on forever, buyers will start complaining about delivery until it finally shows up.
Maybe practising 'drop shipping':
https://www.ebay.com/help/selling/posting-items/setting-postage-options/drop-shipping?id=4176

Guess where this image comes from:


and where does this image come from:


One of them comes from this site:
https://www.super-hobby.se/products/M65-Atomic-Annie-Gun-Heavy-Motorized-280mm.html

and the other comes dfrom this site:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/202884174100

Now, which image comes from which site (no cheating by checking the image links!)?
/ Robin

Another problem with the firing platforms: They can't be accurately replicated with PE. The actual grating is like that found on some outdoor fire escapes - it it comprised of vertical slats intersecting in a rectangular pattern. It is not any kind of steel mesh or expanded steel. This could easily have been done in styrene, even if it required two layers. Perhaps Trumpeter used one of the museum examples in their research that actually replaced the grate with expanded steel. There is one.

They probably did the best they could.
KL

i messaged the Ebay seller and he said the Atomic Annie is Trumpeter and it is in stock