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SOFTSKINS - CMP ambulance update
MrRoo
Joined: October 07, 2002
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Posted: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 08:33 PM UTC
Hi folks I have done a little more on the ambulance but there is still a long way to go. I am waiting on some brass supplies so I can do the interior. The curves in the roof are made from high pressure PVC water pipe as this was the only thing I could find that was close to the original curb.
the earlier post with the original information can be found here.
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/26865&page=1
as usual all comments welcome
the earlier post with the original information can be found here.
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/26865&page=1
as usual all comments welcome
Petro
Joined: November 02, 2003
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Posted: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 11:18 PM UTC
Nice use of the PVC pipe. I wouldn't have thought of that.
Is that Denim stretched across the cab's roof?
Is that Denim stretched across the cab's roof?
WeWillHold
Joined: April 17, 2002
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Posted: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 11:55 PM UTC
Brother Pouch
I was wondering how this one was coming along. Your additions since the first thread are really impressive. Fit is really tight across the entire ambulance rear cab area. Nice touch with the curved PVC pipe --- the curves tie in with the roof and sides very cleanly. Again, your ability to fit these various scratched pieces/shapes together is so impressive. All shapes/parts are cleanly cut and fit without gaps or rough edges. Wow.
My respects to you on this one sir.
Signed
Impressed jr (tm)
I was wondering how this one was coming along. Your additions since the first thread are really impressive. Fit is really tight across the entire ambulance rear cab area. Nice touch with the curved PVC pipe --- the curves tie in with the roof and sides very cleanly. Again, your ability to fit these various scratched pieces/shapes together is so impressive. All shapes/parts are cleanly cut and fit without gaps or rough edges. Wow.
My respects to you on this one sir.
Signed
Impressed jr (tm)
animal
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Posted: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 03:41 AM UTC
You are giving your little "Gray Cells" a good work out on this project. That was very clever using the PVC pipe this way. Leave it to you to come up with new inventive ways to build . 
thebear
Joined: November 15, 2002
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Posted: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 03:47 AM UTC
Coming along nicely ..just goes to show that you have to keep your eyes open at all times to find building materials ..great idea the PVC pipe ...Did you have trouble gluing it or does ordinary super glue do the trick? Love your work ...Now if you could only start a resin company specializing in softskins ..maybe we all could have one of these in our pile! Keep us up to date Cliff.
Rick
Rick
WeWillHold
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Posted: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 03:57 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Now if you could only start a resin company specializing in softskins ..maybe we all could have one of these in our pile! Keep us up to date Cliff
Rick--"Roo Resins" makes a heck of a softskin Radio Command Body Conversion for the Tamiya Duece. Quality is there pal. Give them a try
Steve
Halfyank
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Posted: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 04:00 AM UTC
I always get a kick out of seeing some of your conversion projects. I can recognize some of the kits that you use, then am amazed at what you do with them. It's like looking at a box of oil paints and knowing that somebody like Da Vinci could paint the Mono Lisa with that box. Of course, I may NEVER get beyond drawing stick figures. 
This looks great to me so far.
This looks great to me so far.
Oberst
Joined: June 26, 2002
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Posted: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 05:46 AM UTC
Great work as usual Cliff, your skill at scratch-building is admirable.
Nice use of the PVC, that stuff can be hard to cut, nevermind model with.
Andrew
Nice use of the PVC, that stuff can be hard to cut, nevermind model with.
Andrew
MrRoo
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Posted: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 08:34 AM UTC
Quoted Text
..great idea the PVC pipe ...Did you have trouble gluing it or does ordinary super glue do the trick?
super glue did the trick.
Quoted Text
Nice use of the PVC, that stuff can be hard to cut, nevermind model with.
yes obe. It is real hard to sand and cut but I found that a really course file (more like a rasp) cleaned it up to the stage of final sanding fairly quick. My Razor saw had it's work cut out though.
thanks for all your comments. Please keep them coming.
andy007
Joined: May 01, 2002
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Posted: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 09:14 AM UTC
Cliffy,
Looking utterly amzing, Being the Dumb Kiwi kid what was the oringal kit you used?
I reall do love the PVC pipe idea did you get that from the local hardware store?
Looking utterly amzing, Being the Dumb Kiwi kid what was the oringal kit you used?
I reall do love the PVC pipe idea did you get that from the local hardware store?
MrRoo
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Posted: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 10:31 AM UTC
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what was the oringal kit you used?
I reall do love the PVC pipe idea did you get that from the local hardware store?
The original kit was the Italeri Chev 15cwt kit which is OOP (I think) and yes the pipe came from the local hardware stores plumbing dept. where they sell it by the Metre. $2.90AUD to be exact for one metre. That's enough for about 20 ambulances.
TreadHead
Joined: January 12, 2002
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Posted: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 11:41 AM UTC
Howdy SIR,
......sorry, I was just taking a minute to stop smiling. My dear "Roo always has a way to make me smile.
As usual my friend, very nicely done.
You are indeed one of the people here who make me reach....for that, I will always be eternally grateful.
I have been toying with the very same issues (the upper curve of the roof line). And your use of the PVC pipe is brilliant. If it helps you in any way, the aftermarket audio/visual companies make a thin-walled pvc pipe that is designed to be routed through interior walls and such. The difference between the ID & OD of the normal PVC vs. this A/V pipe is about half. So, it can be used in the very same way, and probably without any of the required 'wall-thinning'.
Your interior work is absolutely splendid. Make's me think you referred to 'Roos Archive's' for reference photos or something!
Tread.
......sorry, I was just taking a minute to stop smiling. My dear "Roo always has a way to make me smile.As usual my friend, very nicely done.
You are indeed one of the people here who make me reach....for that, I will always be eternally grateful.
I have been toying with the very same issues (the upper curve of the roof line). And your use of the PVC pipe is brilliant. If it helps you in any way, the aftermarket audio/visual companies make a thin-walled pvc pipe that is designed to be routed through interior walls and such. The difference between the ID & OD of the normal PVC vs. this A/V pipe is about half. So, it can be used in the very same way, and probably without any of the required 'wall-thinning'.
Your interior work is absolutely splendid. Make's me think you referred to 'Roos Archive's' for reference photos or something!
Tread.
Major_Goose
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Posted: Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 11:51 PM UTC
i think that u are a guy for everyone to be teached from. Nice scratch and work as always. BRAVO
RotorHead67
Joined: May 07, 2003
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Posted: Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 08:19 PM UTC
ROO:
Looks great so far!!! Doing an easy conv. like this w/ flat pieces makes modeling
alot of fun Huh?. Its coming along quite well.
Im using the same kit to do a 15cwt 4x2 wireless radio truck. Another quick and easy
bash. Flat sides, with 4 doors and windows, areals. Looking fwd to the finish.
Looks great so far!!! Doing an easy conv. like this w/ flat pieces makes modeling
alot of fun Huh?. Its coming along quite well.
Im using the same kit to do a 15cwt 4x2 wireless radio truck. Another quick and easy
bash. Flat sides, with 4 doors and windows, areals. Looking fwd to the finish.
MrRoo
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Posted: Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 10:31 PM UTC
Quoted Text
ROO:
Looks great so far!!! Doing an easy conv. like this w/ flat pieces makes modeling
alot of fun Huh?. Its coming along quite well.
Im using the same kit to do a 15cwt 4x2 wireless radio truck. Another quick and easy
bash. Flat sides, with 4 doors and windows, areals. Looking fwd to the finish.
I have one Question to ask. Are you doing the interior of your wireless truck?
I am doing the interior of my ambulance and believe you me I do not think it is a quick or easy conversion to do.
Having said that I would be interested in seeing inprogress pics of your conversion as I am sure a lot of other folk would enjoy seeing them too. This Italeri kit lends itself to conversions inspite of it's age as the CMP type vehicles were to the commonwealth armies what the GMC-CCKW was to the US army.
RotorHead67
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Posted: Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 11:16 PM UTC
MrRoo,
Oh I'm with you 100% on the interior difficulty. Doing the interior is much more difficult. I......on the other hand will not be building an interior, as I have no referance for that
detail. I only have outside layout info and pics. I'm taking the whimpy way out. I think I'll put
shades over the windows, so you cant see inside. The overall conv. to a 4 door wireless is
what appealed to me, so Im enthused with that part more.
The Ford CMP and the CWT are in all kinds of flavors, so the possabilaties are
endless. The stretched personell carriers and the recovery/crane types are interesting as well. I'd also like to do an CWT Royal Eng. recovery truck. I think that would be a fun build.
Accurate Armor does a lot of these types of vehicles, but I'm not willing to pay that price.
I'd rather invest the time and effort instead of my money, and do the kitbash on my own.
Oh I'm with you 100% on the interior difficulty. Doing the interior is much more difficult. I......on the other hand will not be building an interior, as I have no referance for that
detail. I only have outside layout info and pics. I'm taking the whimpy way out. I think I'll put
shades over the windows, so you cant see inside. The overall conv. to a 4 door wireless is
what appealed to me, so Im enthused with that part more.
The Ford CMP and the CWT are in all kinds of flavors, so the possabilaties are
endless. The stretched personell carriers and the recovery/crane types are interesting as well. I'd also like to do an CWT Royal Eng. recovery truck. I think that would be a fun build.
Accurate Armor does a lot of these types of vehicles, but I'm not willing to pay that price.
I'd rather invest the time and effort instead of my money, and do the kitbash on my own.
MrRoo
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Posted: Sunday, April 25, 2004 - 12:09 AM UTC
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The Ford CMP and the CWT are in all kinds of flavors,
I am afraid I do not know the CWT type. the only reference I can make to cwt (lower case) is that in english it means "hundred weight" with 10 hundred weight equaling 1 ton (imperial not metric)
I would still ask that you publish pictures of your build as I, genuinly, would be interested in seeing them.
thanks for your comments
Cliff
RotorHead67
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Posted: Sunday, April 25, 2004 - 03:57 PM UTC
Cliff,
I would love to be able to post progress pics as all of you do. I dont have a digital camera, so my posting/pic progress is FAR behind my building. Hell I cant even figure
out how to put pics in my gallery in the forums. I've read the how to's and still cant get it to work. I will make a valant effort to compile some progress pics of my radio truck tho. I must go to my friends house to have him do a photo shoot.
In referance to the CWT..... this is only 1 of the type designations used by the British and Austrailians.
Like CMP, CWO,CGT all used by Ford and Chevrolet. All the acronyms are listed in my book on Military Vehicles Directory from Wheels and Tracks ,After the Battle. Bart Vanderveen
I an sure you have more interior referance than I, so thats why Im defering on an interior for mine., But the outside of the Chassis and fit will look the part. Todd
I would love to be able to post progress pics as all of you do. I dont have a digital camera, so my posting/pic progress is FAR behind my building. Hell I cant even figure
out how to put pics in my gallery in the forums. I've read the how to's and still cant get it to work. I will make a valant effort to compile some progress pics of my radio truck tho. I must go to my friends house to have him do a photo shoot.
In referance to the CWT..... this is only 1 of the type designations used by the British and Austrailians.
Like CMP, CWO,CGT all used by Ford and Chevrolet. All the acronyms are listed in my book on Military Vehicles Directory from Wheels and Tracks ,After the Battle. Bart Vanderveen
I an sure you have more interior referance than I, so thats why Im defering on an interior for mine., But the outside of the Chassis and fit will look the part.
Todd
DaveCox
Joined: January 11, 2003
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Posted: Sunday, April 25, 2004 - 06:22 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Cliff,
In referance to the CWT..... this is only 1 of the type designations used by the British and Austrailians. Like CMP, CWO,CGT all used by Ford and Chevrolet. All the acronyms are listed in my book on Military Vehicles Directory from Wheels and Tracks ,After the Battle. Bart Vanderveen
CWT isn't referred to the index/ list of acronyms in my copy of that book. It's only used to describe the rated load of a vehicle. e.g: a 15cwt truck can carry up to 15cwt (3/4 ton).
I want to see your truck when it's finished.........can't have enough CMPs!
MrRoo
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Posted: Sunday, April 25, 2004 - 06:35 PM UTC
I stand corrected - C = Chevrolet W = wireless T = Truck
stands for a chevrolet based 15cwt radio truck.
stands for a chevrolet based 15cwt radio truck.
DaveCox
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Posted: Sunday, April 25, 2004 - 06:54 PM UTC
In that case Cliff, so do I.... where did you find that as I sat for an hour with the book and couldn't see it...... must be old age rapidly advancing.
Sorry for doubting your word RotorHead67 ( eats humble pie)
Sorry for doubting your word RotorHead67 ( eats humble pie)
MrRoo
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Posted: Sunday, April 25, 2004 - 08:08 PM UTC
go to http://www.oldcmp.net/
click enter and then table of contents. Go through that and part of it is Australian WO numbers and reference pictures to a lot of the different models.
there is a lot of, but not all, information on that site.
for instance HUP = heavy utility (for) personel
FGT = Ford gun tractor
CGT = Chevrolet gun tractor
hope that helps
Cliff
click enter and then table of contents. Go through that and part of it is Australian WO numbers and reference pictures to a lot of the different models.
there is a lot of, but not all, information on that site.
for instance HUP = heavy utility (for) personel
FGT = Ford gun tractor
CGT = Chevrolet gun tractor
hope that helps
Cliff
RotorHead67
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Posted: Sunday, April 25, 2004 - 11:41 PM UTC
Hey Guys:
To many letters for me!!! Its not my idea. It was the Queens idea. I'm a Bloody Yank for cryin out loud. But then again .........its no worse tan the US idea....... Yeah I know we'll call it an "M "somethin or other. LOL How many things can you find called an M1, I can think of 4 right now. LOL
THIS NEWS !!!! Just in.!!! Hey Cliff its not a CWT its an FAT. LOL
The CWT is on pg 20 lower left pic. Im building the one on pg 22 lower left. Its also on pg 52 on the Ford FAT chassis.Its a Field Artillery Tractor on the 15 CGT chassis. They are in the book I referanced above.
Anyways I AGREE 100% cant have enough TRUCKS
Hey Cliff. Cool site. Lots of reading to do. Thnx
To many letters for me!!! Its not my idea. It was the Queens idea. I'm a Bloody Yank for cryin out loud. But then again .........its no worse tan the US idea....... Yeah I know we'll call it an "M "somethin or other. LOL How many things can you find called an M1, I can think of 4 right now. LOL
THIS NEWS !!!! Just in.!!! Hey Cliff its not a CWT its an FAT. LOL
The CWT is on pg 20 lower left pic. Im building the one on pg 22 lower left. Its also on pg 52 on the Ford FAT chassis.Its a Field Artillery Tractor on the 15 CGT chassis. They are in the book I referanced above.
Anyways I AGREE 100% cant have enough TRUCKS
Hey Cliff. Cool site. Lots of reading to do. Thnx
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