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German Panzer III Ausf.J "North America"
knewton
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Posted: Monday, July 27, 2020 - 07:04 AM UTC
Yep, as seen at hobbyeasy, https://www.hobbyeasy.com/en/data/zhsxtivapxtcpd8vzdf7.html the other front no one knew about... best have that corrected soonish.
ReluctantRenegade
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Posted: Monday, July 27, 2020 - 07:16 AM UTC
Ausf.J apparently stands for 'Jankee'.
raivo74
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Posted: Monday, July 27, 2020 - 07:43 AM UTC
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Ausf.J apparently stands for 'Jankee'.
Made my day
m4sherman
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Posted: Monday, July 27, 2020 - 10:15 AM UTC
Very interesting. Go figure, I didn't know the Afrika Korps made it out to the USA. And, the model looks interesting also!
Tojo72
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Posted: Monday, July 27, 2020 - 12:40 PM UTC
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Very interesting. Go figure, I didn't know the Afrika Korps made it out to the USA. And, the model looks interesting also!
Actually a lot of the Afrika Korps did make it to the USA, only they didn't bring any of their armor.
Google Aliceville POW camp, good story. Was even a documentary on it.
GeraldOwens
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Posted: Monday, July 27, 2020 - 12:43 PM UTC
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Yep, as seen at hobbyeasy, https://www.hobbyeasy.com/en/data/zhsxtivapxtcpd8vzdf7.html the other front no one knew about... best have that corrected soonish.
The headline is good for a smile. The kit parts look extremely competent, with optional long and short guns, different engine decks, photo etch parts, and tools with delicate, hollow release clips molded in place. The only gripe (a minor one), is that the link and length tracks have solid center guide teeth (though tanks that remained in service long enough could have received these as replacements).
jasegreene
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Posted: Monday, July 27, 2020 - 01:11 PM UTC
Here is a little known fact most people don't know.German and Italian POW's from the Afrika Corp was used to build a working model of the Mississippi River in Jackson.There troops were also used to build military bases such as NAS Whiting Field and others.
Posted: Monday, July 27, 2020 - 02:39 PM UTC
My Ex Uncle-in-Law (is that even a term? Uncle by marriage) was a German soldier. He suffered frostbite on the Eastern Front and had several toes amputated. He was not discharged, but was sent to Italy where he surrendered to American troops. He was sent to Arkansas where he worked on farms during the day. He said, and I take this with a grain of salt, that they were taken into town and allowed to watch movies and were given food by the townspeople. He loved Americans. Good old Uncle Rudi. My Ex-Wife's Grandfather didn't have it so good. He was captured by the Russians in Budapest. He spent 5 years in Russian captivity.
PS: The tank looks pretty sweet. Academy's recent kits have been pretty decent.
PS: The tank looks pretty sweet. Academy's recent kits have been pretty decent.
ttwells
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Posted: Monday, July 27, 2020 - 08:12 PM UTC
Well, I live just 7 miles or so Fort Drum, which, before and during the war, was known as Pine Camp. It did "host" both German and Italian POWs captured during the North African campaign....
RobinNilsson
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Posted: Monday, July 27, 2020 - 08:42 PM UTC
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Yep, as seen at hobbyeasy, https://www.hobbyeasy.com/en/data/zhsxtivapxtcpd8vzdf7.html the other front no one knew about... best have that corrected soonish.
The box-art could suggest Nevada, during the fighting withdrawal of German troops back into Mexico in April 1943. Germany was helping Franco to try and get New Spain back into the Spanish empire. If Franco got what he wanted he would let Hitler attack Gibraltar from bases in Spain to cut off Royal Navy access to the Mediterranean from the west. This would force convoys to take the long way around Africa to reach Egypt. Malta would have to surrender when supplies ran out.
ReluctantRenegade
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Posted: Monday, July 27, 2020 - 09:14 PM UTC
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The box-art could suggest Nevada, during the fighting withdrawal of German troops back into Mexico in April 1943.
I've read a book about 30 years ago about a fictional German expeditionary force penetrating the South-West from Mexico. I can't remember neither the title nor the author though...
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Posted: Monday, July 27, 2020 - 10:09 PM UTC
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Quoted TextThe box-art could suggest Nevada, during the fighting withdrawal of German troops back into Mexico in April 1943.
I've read a book about 30 years ago about a fictional German expeditionary force penetrating the South-West from Mexico. I can't remember neither the title nor the author though...
There is also some sci-fi/dystopia book about a future, post WW II, where Japan occupies the western parts of the US, Germans occupy the east, up to the Mississippi or something and the area in between is left as a reservation for Americans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_in_the_High_Castle
Could this be the book you read?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1920:_America%27s_Great_War
This book was published in 2013 so it doesn't match '30 years ago' ...
Byrden
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Posted: Monday, July 27, 2020 - 10:17 PM UTC
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Posted: Monday, July 27, 2020 - 10:51 PM UTC
Is it just me but look in the left upper corner.
It clearly says North Africa !
🧐🧐🤓
It clearly says North Africa !
🧐🧐🤓
ReluctantRenegade
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Posted: Monday, July 27, 2020 - 11:11 PM UTC
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Is it just me but look in the left upper corner.
It clearly says North Africa !
🧐🧐🤓
The OP was reffering to the title on the retail-website (which still says North America), not the boxart.
phil2015
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Posted: Monday, July 27, 2020 - 11:46 PM UTC
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Quoted TextYep, as seen at hobbyeasy, https://www.hobbyeasy.com/en/data/zhsxtivapxtcpd8vzdf7.html the other front no one knew about... best have that corrected soonish.
The box-art could suggest Nevada, during the fighting withdrawal of German troops back into Mexico in April 1943.
Yes, that's it. After the failed siege of Tuscon, the supply lines were unsustainable.
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Posted: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 - 01:03 AM UTC
Now this could be a area for the "what if" builders. England fell, Germans invaded Canada and ventured south into the still unprepared US.
ReluctantRenegade
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Posted: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 - 01:15 AM UTC
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Now this could be a area for the "what if" builders. England fell, Germans invaded Canada and ventured south into the still unprepared US.
Even if the Nazis did manage to occupy England in 1940-41, the Royal Navy almost certainly would've still been in the position to prevent such an invasion. The German naval power wasn't enough to cross the English Channel, let alone the Atlantic Ocean.
tnker101
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Posted: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 - 01:22 AM UTC
True and Hitler would have still moved on Stalin no matter what his Commanders said.
Garrand
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Posted: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 - 04:48 AM UTC
I have been waiting on this kit for a while. Excited to get my hands on it.
RFM is supposed to be doing mid-production workable Pz III/IV tracks with hollow guide horns.
Damon.
RFM is supposed to be doing mid-production workable Pz III/IV tracks with hollow guide horns.
Damon.
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Posted: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 - 05:33 AM UTC
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There is also some sci-fi/dystopia book about a future, post WW II, where Japan occupies the western parts of the US, Germans occupy the east, up to the Mississippi or something and the area in between is left as a reservation for Americans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_in_the_High_Castle
It was even made into a poor TV series by Amazon.
smydi01
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Posted: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 - 05:41 AM UTC
If it was true, can you imagine how happy the German-American Bund would have been.
https://allthatsinteresting.com/german-american-bund-fritz-kuhn#14
https://allthatsinteresting.com/german-american-bund-fritz-kuhn#14
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Posted: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 - 06:29 AM UTC
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If it was true, can you imagine how happy the German-American Bund would have been.
https://allthatsinteresting.com/german-american-bund-fritz-kuhn#14
Those fools should have been used for live target practice ...
Another alternative:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTT1qUswYL0
knewton
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Posted: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 - 06:31 AM UTC
I started this thread with a wry smile, but it turns out, I've expanded my knowledge of German and Italian POW post war; very cool. Thanks, gents.
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Posted: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 - 08:05 AM UTC
I knew there was an American Nazi Party but did not realize the extent. Not surprised that was happening on Long Island though.