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what to do with an interior kit?
phil2015
Joined: July 27, 2015
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Posted: Saturday, August 29, 2020 - 07:21 AM UTC
So I have one now. I'm not sure what to do with it. I bought it because I liked the way the components look and the idea of seeing what the interior was like, but I'm not really sure what to do with it. How do you display yours?
barnslayer
Joined: July 29, 2002
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Posted: Saturday, August 29, 2020 - 07:38 AM UTC
1 - Cutaway view like in a window box diorama showing the crew in action
2 - lots of open hatches. View interior from outside
3 - blown up knocked out tank
Each scenario will need at least some of that interior kit.
2 - lots of open hatches. View interior from outside
3 - blown up knocked out tank
Each scenario will need at least some of that interior kit.
Grauwolf
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Joined: September 14, 2005
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Posted: Saturday, August 29, 2020 - 07:40 AM UTC
You can always do a cut away like the Hetzer on pg 23 of the Tank Destroyer campaign.
1:48 Hetzer by William Herd
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/282412&ord=&page=23
Scroll 3/4 down page.
Cheers,
1:48 Hetzer by William Herd
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/282412&ord=&page=23
Scroll 3/4 down page.
Cheers,
HeavyArty
Joined: May 16, 2002
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Posted: Saturday, August 29, 2020 - 07:47 AM UTC
Exploded view.
tayc
Joined: October 22, 2005
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Posted: Saturday, August 29, 2020 - 08:03 AM UTC
G’day Phil
I tend to adopt the open hatch approach as I am a little intimidated by some of the styrene surgery required by cut-aways etc. I have also presented models in combination - not really dioramas as such - but presented in recovery or repair situations. An example is the combination of the excellent Takom Panther kits with the Strabokran kit and the field maintenance options offered by MiniArt to have turrets and engine decks removed and access hatches removed/open with engines and transmissions being hoisted out for repair or replacement.
Regards
Christian
I tend to adopt the open hatch approach as I am a little intimidated by some of the styrene surgery required by cut-aways etc. I have also presented models in combination - not really dioramas as such - but presented in recovery or repair situations. An example is the combination of the excellent Takom Panther kits with the Strabokran kit and the field maintenance options offered by MiniArt to have turrets and engine decks removed and access hatches removed/open with engines and transmissions being hoisted out for repair or replacement.
Regards
Christian
Tojo72
Joined: June 06, 2006
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Posted: Saturday, August 29, 2020 - 08:55 AM UTC
I love the creative stuff like cut aways,but I just open all the doors and hatches,thats why I only did a few myself Lotta work you can't see.
panzerbob01
Joined: March 06, 2010
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Posted: Sunday, August 30, 2020 - 07:20 AM UTC
Perhaps the key point is to make your display plan BEFORE doing the work... Each route - cut-a-ways, open hatches, "in-repair" dismantled, blown-up wreck - will likely reveal only some larger or smaller SUB-SET of the available interior stuff. So, decide how you want to display it, and then build up and detail the interior parts which will be visible. If you are pragmatic, Skip putting effort into the "never to be seen" bits to save yourself time and effort. Of course, if you LIKE to do that stuff "even if..." (I sorta do like to build even the hidden interior bits, just to see for myself what that stuff may have looked like in the 1:1), just plow in and forget "pragmatism"! 
At least you will know that it's there, hidden wear, oil-stains, dirt and all! 
At least you will know that it's there, hidden wear, oil-stains, dirt and all! phil2015
Joined: July 27, 2015
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Posted: Sunday, August 30, 2020 - 08:29 AM UTC
Thanks everybody for the input - all good.
Yeah, I have really enjoyed the cutaway Hetzer in the TD campaign. Every bit of it is impressive work. I think at this point, a cutaway is going to be beyond my willingness to try. I do like the idea of the crew sitting in their stations.
On building the stuff that no one can see - I think part of my interest in doing an interior kit is so I can figure out what it was like being inside a T-34 (the particular interior kit I have) or to repair something in the engine of one, so part of it is just for me.
The exploded view is very neat.
Lots of food for thought here. Thanks all.
Biggles2
Joined: January 01, 2004
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Posted: Sunday, August 30, 2020 - 11:30 AM UTC
I've got a couple of the Hobbyboss 1/48 T-34's with the complete interiors that I've been procrastinating for years. 
Hohenstaufen
Joined: December 13, 2004
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Posted: Tuesday, September 01, 2020 - 03:24 AM UTC
Phil,
You may well ask! I'm still knee deep in the Takom King Tiger and having spent months(!) doing all the internal detail, the instructions now tell me to glue the hull top and bottom together and hide it all. Well I have done so, but the plate that contains the two front hatches I've left separate (it's quite a snug fit), so that it can be removed to view the interior. The same will be done with the engine hatches. You can do something similar with a Panther too, but I don't know what you do with a Pz IV or Sherman....
I've also got the late Panther G to do with the clear turret and hull. I'm not sure what to do with this either - I think I shall partially paint it on one side, inside and out and leave the other side clear for viewing. That way it will look a bit like those ghosted views of vehicles in books.
You may well ask! I'm still knee deep in the Takom King Tiger and having spent months(!) doing all the internal detail, the instructions now tell me to glue the hull top and bottom together and hide it all. Well I have done so, but the plate that contains the two front hatches I've left separate (it's quite a snug fit), so that it can be removed to view the interior. The same will be done with the engine hatches. You can do something similar with a Panther too, but I don't know what you do with a Pz IV or Sherman....
I've also got the late Panther G to do with the clear turret and hull. I'm not sure what to do with this either - I think I shall partially paint it on one side, inside and out and leave the other side clear for viewing. That way it will look a bit like those ghosted views of vehicles in books.
spongya
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Joined: February 01, 2005
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Posted: Tuesday, September 01, 2020 - 05:30 AM UTC
https://butterfingeredmodelbuilder.wordpress.com/?s=interior
Depends. If the hatches are big enough, you can leave them open.
You can do cutaways, or lift away turrets, sections of the hull using rods, or display it as a wreck, or a tank under maintenance/construction.
Depends. If the hatches are big enough, you can leave them open.
You can do cutaways, or lift away turrets, sections of the hull using rods, or display it as a wreck, or a tank under maintenance/construction.
Bozothenutter
Joined: December 06, 2017
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Posted: Tuesday, September 01, 2020 - 09:20 PM UTC
I actually don't care if it is visible, for me it s more about learning about the subject.
Most non modellers wouldn't know what they are seeing anyway.
Most non modellers wouldn't know what they are seeing anyway.
spongya
Associate EditorJoined: February 01, 2005
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Posted: Tuesday, September 01, 2020 - 10:13 PM UTC
That is exactly right! This is why interiors are so interesting: they show how a tank worked, what environment the crew had to operate, and fill up an otherwise empty space with a ton of interesting detail.
Ringleheim
Joined: September 04, 2009
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Posted: Friday, September 04, 2020 - 05:28 AM UTC
Stick that interior into whatever it's supposed to go in, and then build the Takom Strabokran. Make a little diorama/vignette with the crane holding the turret up above the hull, so you can see inside.
The crane allows you to see your interior kit, the interior kit gives your crane something to do!
The crane allows you to see your interior kit, the interior kit gives your crane something to do!
gbrame
#488
Joined: October 03, 2005
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Posted: Friday, September 04, 2020 - 05:48 AM UTC
Here is what I am doing with my Takom KT Interior:
I have progressed further, having painted the 'cut away' part metallic red. It will be on a berlin 1945 cobblestone base.
https://photos.kitmaker.net/showphoto.php/photo/480797/ppuser/10292
https://photos.kitmaker.net/showphoto.php/photo/480798/ppuser/10292
I will post better photos tonight
I have progressed further, having painted the 'cut away' part metallic red. It will be on a berlin 1945 cobblestone base.
https://photos.kitmaker.net/showphoto.php/photo/480797/ppuser/10292
https://photos.kitmaker.net/showphoto.php/photo/480798/ppuser/10292
I will post better photos tonight
phil2015
Joined: July 27, 2015
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Posted: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 - 12:06 PM UTC
I've been building the miniart SU-85 that is NOT an interior kit, but thinking about what would be involved if I did an interior kit. I've realized that not having an interior lets me get away with a lot. When you don't have an interior on display you can be sloppy with the glue on the side that isn't visible. I guess you really have to take much more care in every step when you are doing an interior kit. For folks who have done it, does it take some getting used to?
wedgetail53
Joined: October 02, 2008
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Posted: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 - 12:46 PM UTC
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Phil,
You may well ask! I'm still knee deep in the Takom King Tiger and having spent months(!) doing all the internal detail, the instructions now tell me to glue the hull top and bottom together and hide it all. Well I have done so, but the plate that contains the two front hatches I've left separate (it's quite a snug fit), so that it can be removed to view the interior. The same will be done with the engine hatches. You can do something similar with a Panther too, but I don't know what you do with a Pz IV or Sherman....
I've also got the late Panther G to do with the clear turret and hull. I'm not sure what to do with this either - I think I shall partially paint it on one side, inside and out and leave the other side clear for viewing. That way it will look a bit like those ghosted views of vehicles in books.
Steve
I'm also currently building a Takom KT, and like you, will remove the front plate containing the hatches. In order to better display all the detail, I think I will also remove the turret and sit it on a stand, also the entire engine deck so as to display all the detail of the fans and radiators.
This, of course, is totally dependent on how much of a mess I make getting the engine installed!
Regards
Rob
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