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RyeField: Tunisian Tigerbrekinapez
Georgia, United States
Joined: July 26, 2013
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Posted: Thursday, October 08, 2020 - 09:01 PM UTC
If they didn't see a market for another Tiger they wouldn't bother. Obviously they found someone who needs a Sneed.
Byrden
Wien, Austria
Joined: July 12, 2005
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Posted: Thursday, October 08, 2020 - 09:45 PM UTC
I had no direct involvement with this kit, but I've written a lot about Tunisian Tigers so it may incorporate information that I posted somewhere.
I don't know why RFM used my name on the Facebook post. I removed it. Certainly it would give the impression that I was a consultant on this kit, which I was not.
The Tigers of the 501st in Tunisia had many little and big differences between them, so there's room for another kit or two there. For example, the captured Tiger at Fort Benning can't be built by any of the existing kits, although it came from the 501st.
But I have no clear idea of what RFM are planning with this kit #5050. The artwork doesn't answer the question because it's not based on the kit's CAD or a built model (I can tell because it has some Early features. The artist was looking at photos of 131 as well as 724).
So this could be a near unchanged re-release of RFM's original kit #5001. Or it could be a complementary kit addressing more of the 501's tanks. Dragon are about to release such a kit, which may be no coincidence.
David
I don't know why RFM used my name on the Facebook post. I removed it. Certainly it would give the impression that I was a consultant on this kit, which I was not.
The Tigers of the 501st in Tunisia had many little and big differences between them, so there's room for another kit or two there. For example, the captured Tiger at Fort Benning can't be built by any of the existing kits, although it came from the 501st.
But I have no clear idea of what RFM are planning with this kit #5050. The artwork doesn't answer the question because it's not based on the kit's CAD or a built model (I can tell because it has some Early features. The artist was looking at photos of 131 as well as 724).
So this could be a near unchanged re-release of RFM's original kit #5001. Or it could be a complementary kit addressing more of the 501's tanks. Dragon are about to release such a kit, which may be no coincidence.
David
bill_c
Campaigns Administrator
New Jersey, United States
Joined: January 09, 2008
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Posted: Friday, October 09, 2020 - 02:15 AM UTC
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What I take from Bill’s post is that releasing Tigers keeps the doors open. Just without the subterfuge.
The Chinese companies releasing these kits have what some in the industry believe is an unsustainable business model. Sort of like using the rolling stock to fuel a wood-burning train engine.
Totalize
Ontario, Canada
Joined: February 04, 2009
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Posted: Friday, October 09, 2020 - 02:55 PM UTC
I have Dragon's two most recent North African Tigers. So, I will not be purchasing this one but will this kit not be around the same price as the Dragon kits?
Totalize
Ontario, Canada
Joined: February 04, 2009
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Posted: Friday, October 09, 2020 - 02:58 PM UTC
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Is it me, or does the guy with the fez at right look like he's about to pee on the Tiger?
He's a rivet counter checking to see RFM got the mud guard design right for this Tiger.
Byrden
Wien, Austria
Joined: July 12, 2005
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Posted: Friday, October 09, 2020 - 11:17 PM UTC
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I have Dragon's two most recent North African Tigers. So, I will not be purchasing this one but will this kit not be around the same price as the Dragon kits?
I can't answer regarding the price of 5050.
Your two Dragon kits are, if I understand you, the "Tunisian Initial" and Tiger "131".
Those are two quite different-looking Tigers.
Dragon's next kit, "Operation Ochsenkopf", is another Tunisian Tiger similar to 6608 but with some decal and part options that make it visibly different.
I don't know what's in this new kit from RFM. It could be their original Tunisian Tiger back as a re-release, or they could be addressing more of these Tunisian tanks (like Dragon are). The artwork is all that they've shown us so far, and the artwork doesn't answer that question.
David
Taeuss
Manitoba, Canada
Joined: January 03, 2016
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Posted: Saturday, October 10, 2020 - 12:09 PM UTC
In regards to my reference to the Dragon Africa Tigers: that's just the point, at the time they were competitive if not relatively inexpensive and then someone got excessively greedy and the Dragon kit prices hit through the roof. I personally buy very few of them these days as I don't believe that they are exclusive or competitive anymore with such newcomers as RFM, Meng and Takom, to name but a few, producing comparable quality kits. Greed does that to companies as we've all seen.