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Shaking Paint Bottles....
SonOfAVet
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Posted: Thursday, April 22, 2004 - 09:45 AM UTC
I thought this was a no-no because it created air bubbles in the paint, but I see that many people own/use electric paint mixers?

Thanks,
Sean
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Posted: Thursday, April 22, 2004 - 09:54 AM UTC
Yes shake and by all means add BB's, ball bearings , shot, or fishing sinkers, to help with the mixing.
Mech-Maniac
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Posted: Friday, April 23, 2004 - 11:47 AM UTC
i shake it.......am i in trouble?
MEBM
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Posted: Friday, April 23, 2004 - 11:58 AM UTC
I shake, and nothing goes wrong. (Yet)

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Yes shake and by all means add BB's, ball bearings , shot, or fishing sinkers, to help with the mixing.


Only thing is, you can't use it in an airbrush when you do that. Thanks for your time.
DRAGONSLAIN
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Posted: Friday, April 23, 2004 - 12:13 PM UTC

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you can't use it in an airbrush when you do that


why? I don't understand why, then if not why should I do?
viper29_ca
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Posted: Friday, April 23, 2004 - 12:36 PM UTC
Apparently by shaking it you put airbubbles into the paint, and that isn't good for airbrushing.....but based on personal experiance, I have never had a problem with it....as buy the time you pour the shaken paint into an AB bottle or paint cup, add in some thinner, and stir it together.....you aren't going to have any bubbles left in it anyway, not to mention that as you pour the paint...the bubbles are lighter than the paint and will float to the top of the paint when pouring, leaving only the paint coming out.

Like I said...have never had a problem. Not an issue
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Posted: Friday, April 23, 2004 - 01:06 PM UTC
LOL.... I put my finger over the tip, and use the air to mix what's in the cup,
never had a problem spraying, and I've been airbrushing since 1972
DRAGONSLAIN
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Posted: Friday, April 23, 2004 - 01:55 PM UTC
oh, its all about the air bubbles? I don't think this would be problem, because I pour the paint and then thin it, and stir. I don't think bubbles could form in thin paint.
kkeefe
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Posted: Friday, April 23, 2004 - 02:01 PM UTC
Odd man out here...

I never shake... stir only as it helps to keep the cap threads clean therefore giving me a little extra mileage out of each bottle of paint by maintaining a tight seal.
scoccia
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Posted: Friday, April 23, 2004 - 07:26 PM UTC
I actually use a mix of all the techniques discussed above. I start stiring the paint and then I shake it after inserting some BB in it and I never had a problem. Until now I didn't see the need to buy an electrical shaker for my paint...
Ciao
straightedge
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Posted: Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 12:45 AM UTC
Whenever I bought paint for the house, they got a shaker right there to shake it with after they mix it, and the same way when I bought a gallon for my pickup. they blended the paint then put it on this shaker for a few minutes.
So if all the places that sell the paint, can shake it, how come we wouldn't be able to.
GeneralFailure
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Posted: Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 09:19 AM UTC
I use Vallejo paints. Stirring is out of the question because of the bottle design.
I pop open the top and add a bicycle ball bearing, then close again. This makes it easier to shake and dissolve any thicker chunks that formed at the bottom during storage.
Tobar
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Posted: Thursday, May 06, 2004 - 12:59 AM UTC
I used to shake...
but when I bought a paint mixer from Badger.. It looks like an electric toothbrush, but
with a metal "propeller" at the end to mix your paint in the jar.... BOY did this do wonders for
me.
I live in Arizona, HOT, DRY HEAT.... drys paints really fast.... I apply a little thinner to the area
where I need to paint and with a good mix on my paint jar, the application goes on great.
REAMEMBER... just a little dot of thinner to start the flow of paint to the area....
Paul
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Posted: Sunday, May 09, 2004 - 03:41 PM UTC
I never shake. Maybe I'm a little snobby, but it helps me thinking that I save some paint by stirring it.
ShermiesRule
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Posted: Sunday, May 09, 2004 - 05:52 PM UTC
It was my understanding that you don't shake the bottle to keep the paint out of the bottle threads where is can dry and cake up. It's not the bubbles in the airbrush but the paint crust that affects the airbrush.
Silantra
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Posted: Sunday, May 09, 2004 - 07:27 PM UTC
my opinion...
i dont shake...just stir the paint with plactic, tooth pick..sometime i even 'tie' the bottle onto my jig saw...hahahaha..that's r eally funny but i learn it from other forums....

when i accidently shake then i have to wait until the paint settle and no more bubbles visible...

Rattler
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Posted: Sunday, May 09, 2004 - 08:16 PM UTC
well personaly over the last 2 years I've been doing it this way. ya know that nice dark milky stuff that settles to the top of the bottle.. well I've been doing this. all that stuff I remove.. disposable spigets ya can get from your local hobby store.. suck that crap right out.. an then throw that stuff out.. I'll add bout 6 bb's per bottle and then refill to the bottum of the neck with MM airbrush thinner.. then shake.. so far I've not had any problems what so ever with getting the paints thinned out for painting or anything.. and they go on very nicely... but hey thats for Model Master enamels guys.. for the rest of the paints I use.. Tamiya 8 bbs for large bottles 5 bb's for the small bottles and bout 2 spigets full of denatured... chuckles so far the other paints I've got are oil and acrylic.. for brushing..

anyways thats My 2 cents.. if it helps great.

Chris
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