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Tamiya Chally 2 review now at PMMS
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Posted: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 - 02:54 AM UTC
Terry Ashley at PMMS (http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com) has published a review of new Tamiya Challenger 2 kit.

It is here: http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/reviews/vehicles/tamiya/tam35274.htm.

Rgds,
Pawel
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Posted: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 - 02:57 PM UTC
One correction to Terry's review. In it he said that the roadwheels, idlers, and sprockets are the same as those on Tamiya's Challenger 1mk.3. After comparing the sprue pics on PMMS to my C1 mk.3 I can happily say, they are not the same but new C2 roadwheels, sprockets and idlers. This has since been pointed out by others, who also noticed this, to Terry and he admitted his mistake over on the ML modern DG.

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Posted: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 - 06:19 PM UTC
Thanx for the review !!

Now where can I buy that thing ?!

Marc
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Posted: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 - 07:57 PM UTC
Yep, I got my 2, they should be in the states and the rest of the world in a few days. They are nice and make up for Trumpeter's soft details. But again Tamiya has taken some short cuts in producing the kit. But the nicest thing is the Tail lights. they are really well down. The turret is also much improved over trumpeters kit, however Trumpeter does give you separte parts for the side storage bins. Final major missing detail is the sponson tops above the tracks. But th9is should only be noticeable if someone decides to build a pre Iraq C2 and you look at it from the bottom. All in all its a kit kit and welcome addition and improvement to my kit collection. STUG
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Posted: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 - 08:53 PM UTC
i think the 'why do we need another one' arguement should be laid to rest now,

from the look of it the tamiya kit is far superior to the others on the market. ill certainly be buying at least one, even if they do charge 30 for a kit!

cheers

joe
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Posted: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 - 12:23 AM UTC

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The turret is also much improved over trumpeters kit, however Trumpeter does give you separte parts for the side storage bins.



I heard that thats one of the worse parts of the Trumpter kit...the storage bins fit like crap on the kit.

Only problem I got is that I hve the Trumpter kit with the AA Operation Telic updates for it and I have a friend ordering me the Tamiya kit I guess I'll do the Trumpter kit in Green black scheme I saw posted here a couple days ago

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Posted: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 - 10:05 AM UTC

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The turret is also much improved over trumpeters kit, however Trumpeter does give you separte parts for the side storage bins.



I heard that thats one of the worse parts of the Trumpter kit...the storage bins fit like crap on the kit.

Only problem I got is that I hve the Trumpter kit with the AA Operation Telic updates for it and I have a friend ordering me the Tamiya kit I guess I'll do the Trumpter kit in Green black scheme I saw posted here a couple days ago




Are you going to use the AA set on the Tamiya kit ? If so, can you report how it fits ?

As I am tempted to build a Challenger II Kosovo version...

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Posted: Thursday, June 03, 2004 - 05:18 AM UTC

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Final major missing detail is the sponson tops above the tracks.



One question: What are sponson tops? Anybody out there with a picture explaining this?

Thanks,

Thomas
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Posted: Thursday, June 03, 2004 - 07:18 AM UTC

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One question: What are sponson tops? Anybody out there with a picture explaining this?



Well, it should probably be rather "sponson bottoms" than "tops". What Steve had in mind is that the hull part that extends above tracks (sponson) does not have bottom wall in the kit. This means that above each track is sort of an empty box in the hull, while in fact this box should be closed and there should be horizontal plate right above each track, which is missing in the kit

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Pawel
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Posted: Thursday, June 03, 2004 - 07:10 PM UTC
Now it makes sense!

Thanks Pawel!

Thomas
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Posted: Friday, June 04, 2004 - 01:28 AM UTC

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Are you going to use the AA set on the Tamiya kit ? If so, can you report how it fits ?

As I am tempted to build a Challenger II Kosovo version...




Nope I'm just going to use the AA kit and Trumpter one to build up in the green and black cammo.

I have a photo of a C2 in Iraq with different colored sand parts on it that I think I'm going to model when I get my Tamiya kit.

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