i was building my tiger I and.. lol.. i noticed a error in the manual.. right now i doing repairs to fiz their screw up

Yeah not one of their better kits ....but hey ..You get what you pay for ...Try a Tamiya tiger after this and you'll love it.

Rick

What was the error

I dont think Italeri are the only company guilty of this crime. There are a lot more expensive kits out there with equally unforgivable instruction mistakes.
There was a thread a while back about the most annoying thing in modelling and this complaint was oneof the highest placed.

I agree, two of the newer Dragon releases, the revised Firefly and SdKfz 251, both have omisions or numbering errors.

Gentlemen--- nothing will ever beat Jaguar's Sheridan. Cost $95 and isn't worth a plug nickel.
DJ

HAHA....You guys want frustration!??!?! Go out and buy yourself an ICM 1/35 any kit, or an ACE 1/72 any kit. You will be thanking the God of Models that your Italeri kit is a "superb" kit.

the error was that in the wheels of the tracks... they drawed in the manual that u had to put the wheels in a place.. and it was not like that... so i did have to cut, and glue it again with some tricks

I've got the ICM Luchs and Pz II Flamingo, both seem to be OK kits.

Spades - I have to disagree with statement concerning ICM kits - at least the T-35. I found it to be quite a pleasant build.

Guys
If you wnat a suggestion, don't try a zvezda kit....
I made a zvezda italian tank and it was almost ok, no problem with the costruction and the instruction where quite decent.
recently I bought a zvezda t34/85....it's Orrible!!
there are a lot of gap betwen the parts so now i put the kit away and I started to work on a Dragon elefant....
in the end I think italeri is cheap as zvezda but the quality of plastic , instruction and packaging are not the same, italeri is cheap by a good quality for how much you spend.
cheers

i agree itLeri has a good price/quality relation

I don't see anything wrong with there kits. For what you pay for them I think that they are a good value. Sometimes that take a little extra work, but that is the fun of modeling to me.

Ok...ICM has some cool ideas, but, when it comes to their directions, UGH !!!! AAAAGGGGGHH. Even though I knock them,.......ugh...here comes an admittance....I have some more of their kits in my "stock".

Hush......dont say another word.

The Zvezda Semnovente and M13/40 are ex Italeri kits and are actually better than the Tamiya versions, especially the ones molded by Italeri in the tan plastic.

Zevzda kits leave a lot to be desired IMHO. The BT-5 and T-26 kits were not especially enjoyable and both need a lot of TLC.

My biggest gripes with Italeri kits are sink marks, tracks and poor research on the vehicles modeled. Currently working on the Crusader 1 and having fits removing detail on the glacis left over from the original Crusader 111. Gonna have to replace some of the petite rivit detail lost in removing the mounts for the later style headlights. Terry Ashley has an excellent build review of this kit on PMMS.

Actually, with a litttle work the Italeri kits build into nice models.

Well unless I am doing something wrong (and I hope not) the upper walkway on the Karl kit (Dragon) extends about 1/2 inch farther than the manual shows it. This causes it to not sit where it should but stick out because of interference with another part (lifting lug bracket(?). I am unsure what to do it's easy enough to trim the back of it to fit but maybe I should be shortening it. Last night when I ran into this I retreated to the TV and watched "The Longest Day". Will check it again tonight.

Same kit has a problem with the drive sprocket which I caught by reading a review, and also another part that when installed doesn't fit where it should. It is a bolt detail on the lifting lugs (?) sorry no part numbers handy here or I would reference the ones I am talking about.

Mistakes in printed material are sadly all too common we have to just catch them. Otherwise I guess copywrite editors wouldn't have jobs.

Oh and hey if you want to read BAD instructions, try reading the motherboard manuals that came with computer motherboards in the late 80s... ugh.

Oh and the ICM kits, I junked a T35 as unbuildable a couple of years ago, no glue I had would glue up the parts not to mention the fit was horrible (my kit was badly warped). Same deal with the Flammpanzer, I ended up using it for parts and getting the Alan kit which I found to be better. Really annoyed me about the T35 because I want to build that beast. I got it on ebay for cheap (get what you pay for I guess) maybe I should risk buying another one.

From what I can recall from reviews at the time, the ICM kits were covered in a very stuborn mould release agent that "normal" dish detergents struggled to remove.

Just curious what are the issues with the Jaguar Sheridan? (I happen to have one on the shelf).
Feel free to email me if that's off topic btw.

Also on my resin shelf are AA S Tank (brick now that the plastic one is out I guess). AA - Centurion Mk11, 17lber and a garage kit of the Heavy Gear Game Kodiak Gear (think large robot with a pilot in it). This ones rather neat with a complete cockpit to detail.

Rob

I bought on of the resin Swedish S-Tank kits, can't remember the name without looking at the box, and what a pain in the idler! Gaps? I think filling the Grand Canyon would have been easier. And the half formed parts? Does anyone know where I can buy an old Soviet nuke cheap? Can you say quality control?

Oh, Well I have learned to test fit everything and look at the assy to see if there is going to be a bottle neck. Also read the forums to see if anyone has problems with a kit if it is costly like the Hobby Fan kits.

I have one of the Jaguar Sheri's as well. The box top on mine was listed as the Modern (Panama) version. what came in the box was the Vietnam version. I was able to get a sneak peek at them at the IPMS nationals in CA. After having served on one for over 4 years, I knew the thing inside and out. I noticed some things on the kits they were offering were wrong and pointed them out. They were really happy to hear what I had to say and even went so far as to jot down some notes. Well sad to say they didnt correct squat. The drivers escape hatch and the engine access hatchs on the lower hull are reversed. If it was an actual vehicle, the driver would have to crawl all the way to the back of the tank to use his escape hatch! IIRC there is no emergency fire extinguishng handle on the left side of the hull. These are the two that jump to mind. I'll have to break mine out and see what else I find. It can be built into a nice kit, but it will take some work. I have heard from a few folks that their lower hulls were warped from front to rear. Luckily, mine sit straight. i'll check mine out tonight after I get home from work and see how she looks. "Q"

Ok, heres what I am seeing so far on my Jaguar Sheridan. I mentioned the escape hatch and access hatches. They protrude from the hull about 1/16th of an inch, and are just wrong in every way shape and form....literally, not to mention their location. I stand corrected on the fire extinguisher pull handle as it is there The fuel filler caps are too far forward. They should set in the recesses along the top of the hull. The commanders ballistic armor tub AKA "Chicken Box" is missing the internals for the RT and the Battery for the LRF, but since mine was the Vietnam version, these wouldnt be there. No bustle rack is included...either ODS or Vietnam version....Now, on a good note....
The castings are nice and crisp with little to no flash. Everything looks correct for the scale. No huge or too small looking pieces.The turret is hollow cast so there is room for a TC and loader in the hatches if you want, Driver too should you decide to go that route. The tracks are individual links and have no sink marks on them and they look correct. The road wheels have the lip around the outter edge and also look correct. About the only thing I can see missing is the Zert fittings for adding grease to the hubs If you were to add Eduards PE set to this kit, and a few scratchbuilt items here and there, it will build into a nice one. I will be doing mine as C32, 3d Bn, (ABN) 73d Armor, 82d ABN DIV. One of the tanks dropped into Panama during Just Cause. Originally marked as C30, it was the first to fire in Panama, putting 4 rounds into the Commandancia of Manuel Noriega. Ok, enough of the history lesson. HTH this help some of you out there. "Q"

I strongly disagree though, I had done the ICM T35, and found it to be much better than any Italeri kit I had done, I think in modeling, modeler is a key factor, we just have to live with the fact that we can't have fall together kits all the times.

as far as ICM kits go...I think there was another company that was reselling or using the molds for the T-35 and they were of lower quality than the ICM kits. Maybe you got one of those kits in a ICM box.

Worst kit I thought was the AER Gaz-??? Man that thing was missing parts, horrible instructions, and major fit problems. And the Alan/DML SU-85 was a serious pain in the arse too...I actually ended up having to throw it out in the garbage and I DO NOT throw kits away...