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PvtParts
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Posted: Friday, July 30, 2004 - 04:24 AM UTC
Thanks to Dave aka Grumpyoldman I thought I would give this odd looking thingie a try.. Its by Academy 1/32 Nieuport 17!! What have I done? Base paint is on next is future ,decals, RIGGING , and Weathering My first...and not last...try on a plane! Thoughts?
, and Weathering My first...and not last...try on a plane! Thoughts? 
Hollowpoint
Joined: January 24, 2002
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Posted: Friday, July 30, 2004 - 08:03 AM UTC
That's amazing, John. It looks just like it's been hit in the nose by masking tape AA fire! 
Just kidding. Sometimes it's nice to build something different than your usual fare. Looks like it's coming along nicely (though I am certainly no expert on wingy-thingies!).
Just kidding. Sometimes it's nice to build something different than your usual fare. Looks like it's coming along nicely (though I am certainly no expert on wingy-thingies!).
PvtParts
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Posted: Friday, July 30, 2004 - 08:55 AM UTC
Bob....neither am I..and ya can tell :-)
Kencelot
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Posted: Friday, July 30, 2004 - 09:01 AM UTC
What did you go and do John? A wingy thing of all things! 
Looking good. Is that the only color that is supposed to be on her?
Looking good. Is that the only color that is supposed to be on her?
MrRoo
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Posted: Friday, July 30, 2004 - 09:51 AM UTC
call a doctor. John is sick LOL :-)
seriously it looks good John. I like the WW1 planes.
The only thing I don't like is the fact that you have hinted this may not be the last wingy thing :-)
good one mate
seriously it looks good John. I like the WW1 planes.
The only thing I don't like is the fact that you have hinted this may not be the last wingy thing
:-) good one mate
TreadHead
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Posted: Friday, July 30, 2004 - 10:21 AM UTC
Howdy John,
Good on ya! She's looking great. I 'cut my teeth' on large scale WW I bi planes when I was a kid (the balsa kind).
She's looking good so far, and I must say, she's sporting the perfect camo paint job for those gray, overcast European skies!........noone will ever see her comin!
Tread.
Although......I suggest you get rid of all that blockage in front of the radial engine intake......she's gotta cool off ya know!
Good on ya! She's looking great. I 'cut my teeth' on large scale WW I bi planes when I was a kid (the balsa kind).
She's looking good so far, and I must say, she's sporting the perfect camo paint job for those gray, overcast European skies!........noone will ever see her comin!
Tread.
Although......I suggest you get rid of all that blockage in front of the radial engine intake......she's gotta cool off ya know!
PvtParts
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Posted: Friday, July 30, 2004 - 10:35 AM UTC
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call a doctor. John is sick LOL
Mr Roo Sir...I do believe it at least has wheels!
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Is that the only color that is supposed to be on her
Sir Kencelot..more color to come! My problem is how the heck to weather???
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......I suggest you get rid of all that blockage in front of the radial engine intake
Gordon...What the hell is a radial engine...and where would I find it??
lestweforget
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Posted: Friday, July 30, 2004 - 11:20 AM UTC
G'day John
looks good, didnt even realize academy make 1/32 aircraft!
The radial engine would be where u stuffed its face full of masking tape! :-) might have trouble getting off the ground if you leave that in there! :-)
cheers mate
looks good, didnt even realize academy make 1/32 aircraft!
The radial engine would be where u stuffed its face full of masking tape! :-) might have trouble getting off the ground if you leave that in there! :-)
cheers mate
airwarrior
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Posted: Friday, July 30, 2004 - 11:34 AM UTC
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Sir Kencelot..more color to come! My problem is how the heck to weather???
These things get COVERED in castor oil after even no more than 30 min. of flying, the wheels also get mud on them, along with the tail skid and lower part of the rudder.
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......I suggest you get rid of all that blockage in front of the radial engine intake
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Gordon...What the hell is a radial engine...and where would I find it??
Thats not a radial engine, its a rotary engine, radial engines spin the prop like an inline, but are air-cooled, and a rotary spins the engine, AND the prop, and is aircooled, the advantage is better cooling, though it adds LOADS of torque!
Nice Neuiport (sp??) You got there Pvt.. What markings are you gonna use on it, British? French?
When I rig a biplane, I use CA accelerator and black stretched sprue (like sprue from tamiya indly links). I build the plane, and intentionally cut the lengths too long, I then glue one side to wherever one side attaches with CA. I then spray accelator and let it sit for a minute, then I take the other half and pull it tight where the other half goes, holding onto the extra piece and glue it down using CA and accelerator again. I then trim to fit.
TreadHead
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Posted: Friday, July 30, 2004 - 11:45 AM UTC
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Thats not a radial engine, its a rotary engine, radial engines spin the prop like an inline, but are air-cooled, and a rotary spins the engine, AND the prop, and is aircooled, the advantage is better cooling, though it adds LOADS of torque!
Thanks for the clarification David, I stand corrected.
{said in a whisper...."leave it to some guy with a name like 'airwarrior' to get all 'A' on me........sheeesh!"...
......next thing ya know, he'll be telling me they used to call 'em 'stringbags' or somethin'!..... }Tread.
airwarrior
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Posted: Friday, July 30, 2004 - 11:58 AM UTC
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{said in a whisper...."leave it to some guy with a name like 'airwarrior' to get all 'A' on me........sheeesh!"... ......next thing ya know, he'll be telling me they used to call 'em 'stringbags' or somethin'!..... }
Athankyou
Grumpyoldman
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Posted: Friday, July 30, 2004 - 12:12 PM UTC
Looks good John., but I didn't tell you to run out and buy every other WWI aircraft made.
Perhaps after the end of the campaigns I'm in, I just might do wing and string also.
Perhaps after the end of the campaigns I'm in, I just might do wing and string also.
boovoola
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Posted: Friday, July 30, 2004 - 01:49 PM UTC
I love these WWI aircraft models but never had the guts to attempt a detailed example, what with the rigging and all.
Thanks for the beautiful photos of your work. As far as a little criticism goes, I say that your top wing seems to be distorted.
A little heat and pressure could solve that.
Thanks for the beautiful photos of your work. As far as a little criticism goes, I say that your top wing seems to be distorted.
A little heat and pressure could solve that.
PvtParts
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Posted: Friday, July 30, 2004 - 08:10 PM UTC
Airwarrior, Thanks for the tip on rigging...that will be the step that will make or break me when it comes to building a second 
Dave, I only picked up 4 more...so far
Don, Shows what I know..I thought it was suppose to be like that thanks for the tip.
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Looks good John., but I didn't tell you to run out and buy every other WWI aircraft made
Dave, I only picked up 4 more...so far
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As far as a little criticism goes, I say that your top wing seems to be distorted.
Don, Shows what I know..I thought it was suppose to be like that
thanks for the tip.airwarrior
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Posted: Saturday, July 31, 2004 - 01:26 AM UTC
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Dave, I only picked up 4 more...so far
I wish I had some more to build, actually. I DO have one, but its a 72 scale MB-20 bomber.... I'm saving that one for later.
I do have an eduard Camel coming inthough, and its a profipack, I'll be busy :-) PvtParts
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Posted: Saturday, July 31, 2004 - 05:23 AM UTC
Airwarrior, Excuse my ignorance..but what is profipack?
airwarrior
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Posted: Saturday, July 31, 2004 - 08:28 AM UTC
Its a special kit released buy eduard that incleds extra phot-etch and resin items, which are added to the basic kit. They also contain m ore marking options.
Grumpyoldman
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Posted: Saturday, July 31, 2004 - 11:23 AM UTC
LOL...John.... I picked up a Nieuport 17 Friday on the way to work, started it Friday afternoon, and worked on it today. How was the fit on yours, mines the Hobbycraft one, and I got a warped port fuselage half. Going to have to do a bit of work to take care of that. will post a few photos. DAMN, it's been a long time since I did a bi-plane.
TreadHead
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Posted: Saturday, July 31, 2004 - 11:28 AM UTC
O.K.,....O.K.....you guys are talking wayyyyyyyyyyyy too much about 'wingy thingy's'!
Especially wingy thingy's with two wings!!
Now, stop it, and go to bed will ya!
Tread.
PvtParts
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Posted: Saturday, July 31, 2004 - 12:12 PM UTC
LOL Gordon..Dave..the fit was very nice, had no problems with any part of it(rigging and decals soon) Will post more shots here tomorrow with paint progress..Its hard to admit, but its been alot of fun so far. First time ever on one of these and I may be hooked 
airwarrior
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Posted: Saturday, July 31, 2004 - 07:52 PM UTC
Now.......our plan is almost complete.....we have been slowly grabbing you in closer and closer into the secret web of wingy thingys...... until you willl be building them for EVER !! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....mwahahahahahaha....huhaha......ha....
earwig61
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Posted: Saturday, July 31, 2004 - 09:35 PM UTC
I'm having 1:72 Sopwith Camel flashbacks. I think WWI planes are neat, so early on, I picked up a rather simple kit. Way different than armor. I learned a few techniques I may have never touched upon doing AFV's. Enjoy your build.
PvtParts
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Posted: Sunday, August 01, 2004 - 07:31 AM UTC
I'm putting 1 shot up right now, I'll get some better shots later. I started the massive decals and have learned I need large decal lessons..I ripped 4 for 4. Touch up needed there. Lessons would be helpful..or hints and tips..or I may have 4 bi-planes for sale...LOL. I still have a ways to go..hope the rest goes a bit smoother
generalzod
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Posted: Sunday, August 01, 2004 - 07:53 AM UTC
John
Your evil wingie thingie looks great so far I think SS-74 has had a bad influence on some of us armor builders I even built an F-14 Tomcat once But I am free of his evil spell :-)
Your evil wingie thingie looks great so far I think SS-74 has had a bad influence on some of us armor builders I even built an F-14 Tomcat once But I am free of his evil spell :-)
MrRoo
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Posted: Sunday, August 01, 2004 - 07:57 AM UTC
oh no1 it's worse then I thought! Another 4 did you say!
a whole 4 more wingy things!
:-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)
a whole 4 more wingy things!
:-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)
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