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Posted: Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 11:47 PM UTC
There has been a great deal of interest in Heki Grass products for use in 1/35 dioramas, but there seems to be a dearth of information, particularly pictures, available on the internet. I recently ordered several types of Heki "wild" grass products from Scenic Express in Pennsylvania. Their service was great by the way, as I had the package in three days time. Here are some pictures of two different types of Heki grass: 1574 Savanna Grass and 1578 mountain meadow grass. The figure is from Dragon's Chosin Reservoir Marine set. I hope you find this useful in evaluating the product for use in 1/35 dioramas.

Keith







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Posted: Friday, September 10, 2004 - 12:00 AM UTC
it looks wonderfull, too bad im from serbia and ordering and shipping would make me (more) poor (than i am now)

but, it looks very nice and convincing, i would love to try it
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Posted: Friday, September 10, 2004 - 12:29 AM UTC
Wow... that stuff looks good, how about posting the website, or ordering info...... please
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Posted: Friday, September 10, 2004 - 12:37 AM UTC
http://www.scenicexpress.com/
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Posted: Friday, September 10, 2004 - 12:48 AM UTC
Matt has already posted the website for Scenic Express, unfortunately, there are no pictures of the Heki Products. I sent an email to the address listed in the site and Sandy Dalicandro responded promptly and answered the phone when I called in the order.

Here is the information she provided in the email:
"Concerning the Heki Wild Grass Fiber, the sheets are 11" x 5-1/2" and the grass follicles are approximately 5mm long. HK1573, 'Moorland Green" is one type of wild grass fiber. There are also five other tones. Their names are Savannah Green (HK1574), Meadow Green (HK1575), Pasture Green (HK1576), Dark Green (HK1577) and Alpine Green (1578). The wild grass fiber sells for $8.99 each. Our shipping fee is $6.79 within the continental U.S.A.

The wild grass fiber is applied by pulling apart or cutting to a specific shape. A spray adhesive (our EX0160) works best for large areas or clear based 'Goo' (our PT0012) works great for smaller sized areas. Also, multiple colors together work well to create a random 'patchy' look."

Keith
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Posted: Friday, September 10, 2004 - 02:40 AM UTC
Thank you
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Posted: Friday, September 10, 2004 - 04:10 AM UTC
The company called NOCH who also produce scenic items for railroading have a similar product called Prairie grass.
Here are some pictures i took of the grass and packaging. Another alternative if anybody is interested!
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Posted: Friday, September 10, 2004 - 04:15 AM UTC
Another picture to show how it compares scale wise!
There are three grasses used ... static grass (heiki) .. the shortest, then the prairie grass by Noch and then long grass by heiki again. The wild grass as described by KBM wasnt available here when I built this scene!
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Posted: Friday, September 10, 2004 - 04:20 AM UTC
This stuff looks very realistic. Does anyone know what this is made of? What are these fibers?
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Posted: Friday, September 10, 2004 - 03:06 PM UTC
Keith, I am glad you got this posted!! I am still waiting on mine. I sent in a money order but with the service you got from scenic express. this is my first product "sheet" pic that doesnt do any good look at it besides being on finished dios. I am really glad I ordered it. I cant wait to see how you use yours!! Plastic battle your scene with it looks great! I would also like to know more about that other grass you used is that a euro only item? I am sitting here all impatient waiting on mine now.
Cheers Kevin
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Posted: Saturday, September 11, 2004 - 06:40 AM UTC
Tankysgal1 asked me about this Heki Grass product once, to see if I could order it for her. Looks awesome. I could really use a source of where I can get this product (dealer rate) and stock it.

We already carry Woodlandscenics, Hudson & Allen Stiudios, and both Verlinden and Techstar static grass, but this product is very unique.

Thanks for any help you can give. PM me here on Armorama.

Cheers !!

Alpen
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Posted: Saturday, September 11, 2004 - 07:04 AM UTC

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I could really use a source of where I can get this product (dealer rate) and stock it.



I hope you can find a source. I have been looking for this stuff for the longest time. If you stock it, I will certainly be ordering from you.

Patrick
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Posted: Saturday, September 11, 2004 - 07:50 PM UTC
NOCH homepage
Maybe you could contact them Robert to set up a dealership??
Check their German version for full pictures and details
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Posted: Sunday, September 12, 2004 - 11:19 PM UTC
Thanks gents. I can always count on my fellow Armorama members !

Hopefully one of these links will answer a few questions, and then I can pass on the product to you, as long as I can get it.

Cheers !!

Alpen
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Posted: Monday, September 13, 2004 - 03:14 PM UTC
Looks good, ive seen this stuff a few times, will have to pic some up next time!
cheers
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Posted: Monday, September 13, 2004 - 10:26 PM UTC
Hi Patrick:

Heki Grass (not sure about Noch, will have to check their catalog) is available through Scenic Express, see my earlier post in this thread regarding price and shipping. Matt posted their website.

Keith
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Posted: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 09:20 PM UTC
Jackhammer81 sent me this link:

http://www.heki-kittler.de/

Hopefully I will be able to find a method of aquiring this product.

I know for myself, I'm always looking for high quality diorama products.

Thanks Kevin !!

Cheers !!

Alpen
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Posted: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 03:16 AM UTC
Scenic Express is RIGHT!
I called them Monday at 3pm and had my super trees, flock and heki grass waiting here at the door today at 3!!

The products might or might not be any good, I have n't gotten into it and played around yet.

But Mannnnnn the shipping is great!

The three Heki grasses I got were
Woodland Green #1576
Mountain Medow #1578
Marshy country #1573

Marsh is much deeper green and seems to have a bit more fullness. Like there is more foam or something between the grass blades

Medow is a green/brown mix w some seed/leaf bits mixed in

Woodland green is a green to yellowish at the tips w/o any leaves or foam.

Supertrees and flock look good too, but they are phasing out the old flock (get the flock outta here! You're flocking kidding me!) so they I only got one shaker of the light green birch leaves color #08010 but they look like the birches I see around here.

I've got a semi-free hobby weekend and a friend coming over to geek out so hopefully I'll have more to report Monday.

I have not opened or used any of this stuff yet, but I am VERY pleased w the customer service and promptness of shipping from SE.
Thumbs up!

Mike
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Posted: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 09:56 PM UTC
I checked the Scenic Express catalog that came with my order of Heki Grass and they also carry Nock grass products that are similar to the Heki grass.

Have to agree with MLD, Scenic Express offers great service.

Keith
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Posted: Friday, September 17, 2004 - 05:05 PM UTC
hi, does anyone know a online shop in the benelux wich sells this grass?
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Posted: Friday, September 17, 2004 - 06:50 PM UTC

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hi, does anyone know a online shop in the benelux wich sells this grass?



Sorry, I am in the states so I can't directly answer your question, but I have to think a 'good' model railroad shop will carry Heki, Silfor and Noch grass. Especially simce they are Euro-made products (isn't Silfor?? I know Heki and Noch are)

To everyone else, grab the Scenic Express catalog if you can, WOW!
Heki, Noch and Silfor grass, foliage, trees (Super trees rock!) this place si going to get a BUNCH of my mone this year!

Mike
Whose groundwork used to suck balls.. but who in 5 min slapped some Heki onto a foam cube w a Super tree and it's WORLDS better than anything I'd ever done!
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Posted: Sunday, September 19, 2004 - 07:07 AM UTC
A little bit of what I've had time to do with the Heki grass and supertrees from Scenic Express.
The supertree trunk is unpainted, but with a little paint they'll look GREAT.
The figure is an in-progress DML Motor Rifle troop.

Total working time in the groundwork, about 20 min!

Love this stuff.



Mike
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