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Armor/AFV: Axis - WWII
Armor and ground forces of the Axis forces during World War II.
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Morser Karl Captured
coca
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Singapore / 新加坡
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Posted: Saturday, October 09, 2004 - 10:43 PM UTC
Greetings all, my latest model-54cm Morser Karl.
The Germans always had a diametrically opposed views of artillery, they thought that if one round could do the job right from the first time the better, so a bigger and powerful gun is needed. A gun that could cracked the fortress and also act as a suppression weapon.
Eventually a 54cm/60cm ultraheavy mortar gun dubbed as "Geraet" 040 was developed. Six superheavy guns were built and they were all given names: Adam(I), Eve(II), Thor(III), Odin(IV), Loki(V) and Ziu (VI). Eve and Loki were captured by US forces in 1945.
This vignette is to depict a captured gun painted in RLM grey scheme. An injured German POW seeking medical treatment was escorted by an American GI. Both of their attention were drawn to this huge, stunning, fiece looking machine: The Ultimate 54cm Morser Karl Loki.




















mikeli125
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England - North West, United Kingdom
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Posted: Saturday, October 09, 2004 - 10:53 PM UTC
outstanding like the way you blended the dio in with the sky background really simple and very effective. btw who makes the german figure?
coca
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Singapore / 新加坡
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Posted: Saturday, October 09, 2004 - 11:11 PM UTC
Hi davy, thanks for the comment, both figures are from Dragon.
sgtsauer
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Posted: Saturday, October 09, 2004 - 11:15 PM UTC
I love the way your handles look on the hand tools. Can you tell me how you painted/finished them?
coca
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Singapore / 新加坡
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Posted: Saturday, October 09, 2004 - 11:44 PM UTC
Hi Brent, thanks for viewing. Painting the wood hand tools actually quite simple, all you need to do is base coat the wood in any light sand color, follow by the mixture of oil paint; raw umber and burnt sienna, thank you
boosahmer
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California, United States
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Posted: Saturday, October 09, 2004 - 11:46 PM UTC
great job, Coca. It turned out really neat!
coca
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Singapore / 新加坡
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Posted: Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 05:36 PM UTC
Thanks Robert, I have spend quite amount of time for this vignette
Hut
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Utrecht, Netherlands
Joined: July 14, 2003
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Posted: Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 06:04 PM UTC
Hi Coca,

Very cool build.
You say they were captured by the americans, How many and what happened to them? Do you know, because the only one surviving as far as I know is the one in Kubinka. The americans didn't scrap the Leopold railwaygun they captured, did they scrap these?
Sorry for being a wise a##, but the 60cm type was gerat 040 and 54cm type was gerat 041.
The paint job look teriffic, but why did you use a RLM number? Is it because this was the right color or is this vehicle somehow linked with the luftwaffe?

Cheers,

Pascal

Gunny
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Pennsylvania, United States
Joined: July 13, 2004
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Posted: Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 06:13 PM UTC
Hello Coca, Greetings from Pennsylvania...
Outstanding job, sir...I love this piece, great paint job and detail... I really admire this gun...Keep up the good work!!

Sincerely,
Gunny
jackhammer81
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Posted: Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 06:21 PM UTC
Outstanding work!!! Cheers Kevin
plstktnkr2
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Posted: Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 09:17 PM UTC
Just for the record, the RLM color is correct because some of the german artillery (such as AA guns ) came under luftwaffe control. Some cross-service painting could have taken place in the later war years.

PS for those of you who may not know,RLM stands for roughly Reichs
Luftwaffe
Ministries (German Air Ministry) which chose all colors of air related equipment (guns, uniforms, softskins, etc.
kkeefe
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Posted: Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 10:13 PM UTC
That is just gorgeous!!
Alpenflage
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Posted: Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 10:19 PM UTC
Outstanding work on your Karl-Geraet "Loki". My only question is why you chose a RLM Grey Scheme ?Looks awesome !

I understand some Luftwaffe colors were used on late-war German armaments, but I'm not so sure on the Loki. Most photos I've seen show it in a 3-color scheme. I like your concept of the RLM Grey.

This brings in the idea that perhaps some Luftwaffe colors were, in effect, used on late-war German armor when stocks of the standard colors ran out.

Anyhow, great work on your Karl Morser !! Nice photograhy too !!

PROST !!

Alpen
tankysgal1
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Posted: Monday, October 11, 2004 - 12:31 AM UTC
Looks really great!... Keep up the good work. Excellent use of natures beauty for a background.
Mary
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coca
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Singapore / 新加坡
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Posted: Monday, October 11, 2004 - 11:15 AM UTC
Hi guys thank you very much for the comments and compliments, and I would like to apologise for the late reply because last night I have encountered difficulty in internal connection.
Yes Vanderboer I agreed with you that the ground work look a little simple. When I started the construction of this model, I was wondering how was this big gun going to move around, lock-on the targets and fire off 1200kg of high explosive round. Logical thinking would be a open field, firm and flat ground for easy maneuver and resupply.
According to the reviewed by Squadron, 2 guns Eve and Loki were captured by US forces in 1945, and I have no idea what their fate after that. You are right Pascal, the 54cm gun should be code as 041, thanks for the highlight.
As why the gun painted in RLM gray color scheme, I think I have to agree with Rick (plstktnkr2) that some artillery guns were under the Luffwaffe control.
cheer
Hut
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Utrecht, Netherlands
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Posted: Monday, October 11, 2004 - 12:32 PM UTC
Thanks for the info. I didn't know about artillary being placed under Luftwaffe control (except for AA of coarse).

And again great modelling.

Cheers,

Pascal
moJimbo
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Shah Alam, Malaysia
Joined: October 06, 2004
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Posted: Monday, October 11, 2004 - 02:53 PM UTC
it's beautiful! ...the winter wash scheme really makes it stands out, and the addition & pose of figures in the dio makes it doubly interesting..even the photography is good! keep it up!
emm.. maybe if you could put 1 or 2 figures of us troops poking around on top of the thing... what do you think
coca
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Singapore / 新加坡
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Posted: Monday, October 11, 2004 - 03:39 PM UTC
Hi moJimbo thanks for the comments. You know you are right, posing an addition US figure on the gun plateform would be more interesting. Thanks for the idea, apprecite.
armorguy
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Posted: Monday, October 11, 2004 - 08:58 PM UTC
Coca, I think it turned out really great! I really like the color scheme. The weathering is very subtle and quite good. I especially like the rust stains. Good job!
coca
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Posted: Monday, October 11, 2004 - 09:47 PM UTC
Hi armorguy, thanks for the compliment, the rust stained effect was to apply number layers of oil wash over and over again to achieve that kind of look.
cheers
shonen_red
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Metro Manila, Philippines
Joined: February 20, 2003
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Posted: Monday, October 11, 2004 - 09:51 PM UTC
I like the way it turned out. Very nice! I bet you use natural backdrop on the first few shots right?
coca
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Singapore / 新加坡
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Posted: Monday, October 11, 2004 - 10:17 PM UTC
Hi Red, thanks for viewing, the natural background in fact was done by digitial effect - photoshop, and it really bring out the effect of the scene.

cheers
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