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HO train scale to 1/72??
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Posted: Thursday, December 02, 2004 - 07:15 PM UTC
hey i was wondering how close HO scale trains are to 1/72 scale figures......like would the buildings look out of scale if i were to use 1?72 buildings and figes but an HO scale train? thanks for your help......
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Posted: Thursday, December 02, 2004 - 07:36 PM UTC
Not particularly, however, HO is actually a lot smaller than 1/72nd. Probably with distance from an object, it would be hardly noticeable.

The problem is that HO (and 00) were developed with no thought of the future - HO was a 'stand-alone' scale.

There are a considerable number of vehicles made specifically in HO scale - what springs to mind are companies like Preiser, Wiking and a number of others..

HO was always designated as 'continental' scale, OO was a purely British creation (we Brits always have to be different ) - it started with Marklin in Germany and Hornby-Dublo in the U.K. (which was eventually taken over by Tri-Ang in the 1950s)...It's a complex subject! Jim
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Posted: Thursday, December 02, 2004 - 08:05 PM UTC
HO = 1:87 - the difference is too big.

Roco makes a lot military in HO scale.

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Posted: Thursday, December 02, 2004 - 11:45 PM UTC
As MrMox said HO is 1:87, putting this together with 1:72 does not in my opinion look very realistic, they're just to different in size.
Preiser has a whole military 1:87 line (figures and vehicles).

But buildings for 1:72 have to be scracthed I think.

Pascal
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Posted: Friday, December 03, 2004 - 01:28 AM UTC
Adam,

I tried this (combining 1:76 military stuff with 1:87 RR) and it lookded quite ok for the tracks, some buildings and even some freight cars. To be perfect in scale, I have to admit the others who propose Preiser (for 1:87 figures) and ROCO (who nearly have every piece of armor -WW2 and modern- in 1:87).
Aifix did some RR stuff (engines and cars), but don't ask me for the scale. Does anybody know ?

Cheers

Frank
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Posted: Friday, December 03, 2004 - 01:31 AM UTC
Airfix did a large amount of wagons, coaches and even locomotives along with a number of buildings. All were 00 Scale (1/76th) and none have been in production for many years.

All the buildings and railway accesories were of British subjects...Jim
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Posted: Friday, December 03, 2004 - 02:48 AM UTC
depends where you want to use the H0 stuff...
In the Background and without a 1:72 Model or figure standing directly next to it it would be ok.
But putting a H0 figure next to a 1:72 tank looks stupid

greets,

ekke



PS: there are very few models exactly 1:72 or 1:87, so if you use a large 1:87 house with a small 1:72 vehicle that could also be ok
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Posted: Friday, December 03, 2004 - 03:22 AM UTC
Here is BP-44 Panzerzug ... It's 1/72 scale, BP-42 armoured train.



And diorama :
http://www.xs4all.nl/~tozu/bp44/bp44.htm

is it ok ?
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Posted: Friday, December 03, 2004 - 03:45 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Airfix did a large amount of wagons, coaches and even locomotives along with a number of buildings. All were 00 Scale (1/76th) and none have been in production for many years.




Most (if not all) of the old Airfix range of railway stuff is now produced by a company called Dapol

http://www.dapol.co.uk/
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Posted: Friday, December 03, 2004 - 03:59 AM UTC
Thanks for that David - wow! a real trip down memory lane there...Jim
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Posted: Friday, December 03, 2004 - 03:11 PM UTC
thanks guys.....my girlfriend wants me to make a christmas village for our decorations and i was hoping to be able to use the 1/72 buildings with the 1/87 scale train to have a train that actually went through the town....so its not really a dio im doing but kinda is at the same time.......are there any 1/72 non military trains out there on the market that i could use?
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Posted: Saturday, December 04, 2004 - 09:07 AM UTC
Hey dont worry too much about that, noone will look at your christmas-decoration and say "uuuhh, thats out of scale"
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Posted: Saturday, December 04, 2004 - 08:27 PM UTC
American HO is 1/87

British HO/OO (British prototypes) is 1/76, It operates on HO gauge track. There are a number of manufactures in this scale. There is a lot of 1/76 scale civilian prototype rail equipment available but as far as I know no American prototype.

HO model railroaders have successfully used British OO scale building.

Some of the Airfix 1/76 military models have been re-issued, but are now labled 1/72 scale.

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