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Posted: Saturday, December 11, 2004 - 11:45 PM UTC
Hi,
what do thease abbreviations stand for and what use are they:
R.A.L.
R.L.M.
B.S.
F.S.

thanks in advance

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Philip
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Posted: Sunday, December 12, 2004 - 12:02 AM UTC
FS I think is Federal Standard. Sorry... don't know about the others
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Posted: Sunday, December 12, 2004 - 11:59 AM UTC
RLM was the WWII German standard
RAL, I believe is the Post WWII (present day) German standard
BS I believe is the present British standard.... the WWI and WWII have sliped from my senile mind.....
FS is US Federal Standard.
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Posted: Sunday, December 12, 2004 - 12:27 PM UTC
I thought BS was something totally different from that.

Sorry I have no idea what those stand for I'm going with Grumpy's answer.
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Posted: Sunday, December 12, 2004 - 01:27 PM UTC

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RLM was the WWII German standard


Wasn't this specfic to the Luftwaffe?

RLM - Reichsluftfahrtminsterium (State Ministry of Aviation)
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Posted: Sunday, December 12, 2004 - 01:37 PM UTC
If i am not mistaken RLM was the Luftwaffe colors and RAL the ground forces during the war
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Posted: Monday, December 13, 2004 - 01:14 AM UTC
I stand corrected..... yous guys are probably correct on the RLM... RAL answer......
Not a Germanmister at all, now if we could get one of the Brits to answer about the Britsh standards we all be a little better off, and smarter........
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Posted: Monday, December 13, 2004 - 01:39 AM UTC

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I stand corrected..... yous guys are probably correct on the RLM... RAL answer......
Not a Germanmister at all, now if we could get one of the Brits to answer about the Britsh standards we all be a little better off, and smarter........


BS is indeed British Standard. The abbreviation is used together with Army Council Instructions (ACIs), Military Training Pamphlets (MTPs), General Orders (GOs) and Standard Camouflage Colours (SCCs) when refering to British WW2 colouring. Refer to the MAFVA site for further information (as well as some handy British Armour mixes).

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Posted: Monday, December 13, 2004 - 02:08 AM UTC
Thanks Rudi
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Posted: Monday, December 13, 2004 - 02:25 AM UTC

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RAL the ground forces during the war


I don't know what colors were used during the war, but RAL standard colors were used after the WW2 for both West German armor and aircraft.
Examples:
Bundesluftwaffe Norm ´76: RAL 6014 (Gelboliv), RAL 7012 (Basaltgrau), RAL 9005 (Tiefschwarz), RAL 7001 (Silbergrau).

Current 3-color NATO camouflage on Bundeswehr armor: RAL 6031(Bronzegrün), RAL 8027(Lederbraun) and RAL 9021 (Teerschwarz).

Pawel
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Posted: Monday, December 13, 2004 - 05:00 AM UTC
Dave,
...now if we could get one of the Brits to answer about the Britsh standards we all be a little better off, and smarter........

BS is indeed British Standard.

Cheers

Bill Brignal
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Posted: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 - 11:51 PM UTC
better late than never;
log on to www.ral.de/farben/en-good site explaining the evolution of "ral".
may this help...
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Posted: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 04:44 AM UTC
I agreed with Chad,
RAL - German Armor
RLM-German Luftwaffe


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If i am not mistaken RLM was the Luftwaffe colors and RAL the ground forces during the war
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