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Armor/AFV: Axis - WWII
Armor and ground forces of the Axis forces during World War II.
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German casting texture
woodstock74
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Posted: Friday, December 17, 2004 - 02:12 PM UTC
I'm getting back to work on my E100 and was looking over the gun mantlet tonight. Clearly it would have been a cast piece on a tank such as the E100 and the Dragon kits gives it some very subtle (and meerly average) texture. I have seen first hand the casting textures on U.S. and Russian tanks at the Patton Museuem and took many pictures of such. Alas I don't recall what the castings were like on the King Tiger that they have there. Can anyone give me an idea of the level of texturing I should create to replicate the casting texture for a German WWII casting?
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Posted: Friday, December 17, 2004 - 03:30 PM UTC
Hi Mike,
German castings that I have seen in person, and in pics have generally been pretty smooth. In comparison to US and Russian casting I would say Russian is the roughest, the US stuff is smoother, and German casting is for the most part a little smoother than US. By the way, at our meeting at The Warroom a couple of weeks ago the owner told us he will be closing the Norcross location in late March, bad news. The good news (for you at least) he is looking for a new location farther north towards Duluth and the Lawrenceville area.

I hope you and yours have a Merry Christmas!

Mike (:-)
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Posted: Friday, December 17, 2004 - 04:04 PM UTC

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Hi Mike,
German castings that I have seen in person, and in pics have generally been pretty smooth. In comparison to US and Russian casting I would say Russian is the roughest, the US stuff is smoother, and German casting is for the most part a little smoother than US. By the way, at our meeting at The Warroom a couple of weeks ago the owner told us he will be closing the Norcross location in late March, bad news. The good news (for you at least) he is looking for a new location farther north towards Duluth and the Lawrenceville area.

I hope you and yours have a Merry Christmas!

Mike (:-)



You're kidding? He does intend to reopen though? Closer to me would be better I must admit though my first concern would be confirming he isn't going under...that seems to be too common these days.
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Posted: Friday, December 17, 2004 - 09:41 PM UTC
Hi woodstock German armour and its manufacturing processes were perhaps the most refined for thier time
generally steel armour plate as exihibted on the main hulls of most vehicles was pretty faultless and only exhibited rolling mill marks and pits slightly .
casting was also very refined
"Kelley" is right about it being quite smooth
it should be almost flush with only slight ripples (like exihibited on the rear deck of Tamiyas Tiger 1's )
i think dragons moulding on thier
E-100 could be left untouched
woodstock74
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Posted: Saturday, December 18, 2004 - 12:41 AM UTC

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Hi woodstock German armour and its manufacturing processes were perhaps the most refined for thier time
generally steel armour plate as exihibted on the main hulls of most vehicles was pretty faultless and only exhibited rolling mill marks and pits slightly .
casting was also very refined
"Kelley" is right about it being quite smooth
it should be almost flush with only slight ripples (like exihibited on the rear deck of Tamiyas Tiger 1's )
i think dragons moulding on thier
E-100 could be left untouched



You do think the texturing on the E100's mantlet is ok? I guess ultimately my thoughts were it looked more like an attempt to create a wood texture than a casting texture with odd, nearly parallal lines running across the mantlet's face (at least it looked that way with these eyes ).
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Posted: Saturday, December 18, 2004 - 01:14 AM UTC
I greet
I in one's models make this into this way.. Examination in scale 1:35 passes perfectly also ..
Talc , plaster , dilute filler + paint , to mix together , to put on brush - not to paint only to put on , after drying to polish small paper - more or less .. Look onto pictures..Saukopf 1:35 scale ...
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Kelley
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Posted: Saturday, December 18, 2004 - 04:24 AM UTC

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You're kidding? He does intend to reopen though? Closer to me would be better I must admit though my first concern would be confirming he isn't going under...that seems to be too common these days.


Oh yeah, he definitely will be reopening. He feels he needs to get closer to his customer base and that is a little further north than where it used to be. The only question now is just exactly where up that way he will go. He has already been checking out the Mall of Georgia area, it will be interesting to see where he ends up.

Mike
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Posted: Saturday, December 18, 2004 - 08:13 AM UTC

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You're kidding? He does intend to reopen though? Closer to me would be better I must admit though my first concern would be confirming he isn't going under...that seems to be too common these days.


Oh yeah, he definitely will be reopening. He feels he needs to get closer to his customer base and that is a little further north than where it used to be. The only question now is just exactly where up that way he will go. He has already been checking out the Mall of Georgia area, it will be interesting to see where he ends up.

Mike



Well that is positive. Though the Mall of GA area is traffic grand-central and I avoid it like the plague. I'd rather drive the 30 mins to where he is now than to fight the mall area traffic!
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Posted: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 05:17 AM UTC
Hello!
To give you some idea of the real thing, this is a Panther Ausf A in Munster museum:






So you can see, it was really very smooth. I consider it to be far enough for 1:35 scale, just to roughen the plastic a little bit with Tamiya green cement (plastic glue, very thin liquid!) an stub onto the still glue-wet surface with a broad brush.
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