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M4A1 - what do you think?
Martinnnn
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Posted: Friday, February 25, 2005 - 02:23 AM UTC
Hi all,

I'm working on my M4A1. The model was half finished and hidden somewhere under my bed :-)

I decided it was time to finish it. The only things I'd done so far were building the turret and attaching the upper hull to the lower hull....

The beginning:







Olive drab:





Second, lighter olive drab, leaving edges in the dark base colour:







With all the tools etc painted in their base colour...















Any comments are welcome! Remember, weathering still needs to be done....as well as decals and the wheels and tracks!

Once finished, this will be my entry for "One of our tanks is better than 10 of yours"

Martin
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Posted: Friday, February 25, 2005 - 02:47 AM UTC
Thanks

At the moment I'm working on the wheels etc....hope to have them attached today or maybe tommorow

Martin
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Posted: Friday, February 25, 2005 - 03:20 AM UTC
Martin that looks good so far, I like the sandbags and the cargo on the back.
How did you made or where did you buy that rope where the cargo is attached with.

I can't wait to see it finished.

Greetz Rob!
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Posted: Friday, February 25, 2005 - 03:28 AM UTC

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Martin tha tlooks good, I like the sandbags and the cargo on the back.
How did you made or where did you buy that rope where the cargo is attached with.

I can't wait to see it finished.

Greetz Rob!



The rope comes from a tamiya kit, it's actually ment to be used as a tow cable.....but I used it to keep the cargo in place
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Posted: Friday, February 25, 2005 - 03:34 AM UTC
hehe mooi hoor.

Back to englisch.
I like your painting.
Is this the tamiya kit??
Why have you putt a piece of wood in the sprocketwheelholder?

Greetz Hilbert
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Posted: Friday, February 25, 2005 - 04:27 AM UTC
If I were to do one thing here, it would be to replace the Ma Deuce (.50 cal) with either an aftermarket one or one from an Italeri kit tht has the handles as a separate piece. The solid handles really detract from the realism of the kit.
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Posted: Friday, February 25, 2005 - 04:46 AM UTC

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If I were to do one thing here, it would be to replace the Ma Deuce (.50 cal) with either an aftermarket one or one from an Italeri kit tht has the handles as a separate piece. The solid handles really detract from the realism of the kit.



The current .50 is one from academy, which I like better than the italeri one. But I'll replace those handles (these are also seperate btw)

Martin
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Posted: Friday, February 25, 2005 - 06:11 AM UTC

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hehe mooi hoor.

Back to englisch.
I like your painting.
Is this the tamiya kit??
Why have you putt a piece of wood in the sprocketwheelholder?

Greetz Hilbert



I think that was to protect the hole from getting filled with paint while he was sparying. If you look he has covered up all the holes on the bogies too
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Posted: Friday, February 25, 2005 - 07:34 AM UTC

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hehe mooi hoor.

Back to englisch.
I like your painting.
Is this the tamiya kit??
Why have you putt a piece of wood in the sprocketwheelholder?

Greetz Hilbert



I think that was to protect the hole from getting filled with paint while he was sparying. If you look he has covered up all the holes on the bogies too



What is the sprocketwheelholder, and what is a sprocketwheel?

The wood at the front of the tank is just extra armor, just like the sandbags...

Martin
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Posted: Friday, February 25, 2005 - 08:02 AM UTC
The sprocket wheel is the wheel in front with all the pointy spikes.
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Posted: Friday, February 25, 2005 - 07:57 PM UTC
Ok.....but what wood are we talking about then

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Posted: Saturday, February 26, 2005 - 03:57 AM UTC
I think he's mistaking you masking material in pic #6 as a wood dowel.
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Posted: Saturday, February 26, 2005 - 10:56 AM UTC
Martin
I would cut the camo netting off from the gun mantlet and where the main gun meets into the gun mantlet On the real thing if it was like that the recoilfrom the 76mm would draw the netting back into the mantlet and cause all sorts of problems

Other than that it is a great looking tank so far
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Posted: Saturday, February 26, 2005 - 11:13 AM UTC
Hi,
I like the stowage. I seem to see a gap where the pistol port is attached to the turret. Can you putty to make the transition to the edge of the port smoth?
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Posted: Saturday, February 26, 2005 - 07:55 PM UTC

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Martin
I would cut the camo netting off from the gun mantlet and where the main gun meets into the gun mantlet On the real thing if it was like that the recoilfrom the 76mm would draw the netting back into the mantlet and cause all sorts of problems

Other than that it is a great looking tank so far



Haha the main reason for attaching the camouflage netting was to cover up italeris fault there as I was to lazy to sand away the stepped-up section near the mantlet. I think I'll remove the camouflage netting and try to replace the barrel with a jordi rubio one....

Thanks for telling me this, what you say really makes sense :-)!

Martin
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Posted: Saturday, February 26, 2005 - 09:29 PM UTC
It looks good Martin. The only doubts i've got are:
- is the texture on the sand bags a bit overscale?
- there is a bit too much camo net on the barrel?
Ciao
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Posted: Saturday, February 26, 2005 - 09:42 PM UTC

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- is the texture on the sand bags a bit overscale?



I like it myself.....seems good to me :-)


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- there is a bit too much camo net on the barrel?



Well camouflage nets are big, so it wouldn't be too much in my opinion, but like generalzod already said a few posts above: it would cause problems...

So if possible I'll remove it....
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Posted: Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 02:06 AM UTC
Hey guys, what colour should the periscopes in the commanders cupola be?? Black? Gloss or matt?

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Posted: Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 01:05 PM UTC

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Hey guys, what colour should the periscopes in the commanders cupola be?? Black? Gloss or matt?

Martin


It should be gloss black Martin I would paint them after you have added any flat clear coat
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Posted: Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 07:54 PM UTC

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Hey guys, what colour should the periscopes in the commanders cupola be?? Black? Gloss or matt?

Martin


It should be gloss black Martin I would paint them after you have added any flat clear coat



that's a good idea....thanks!

I'll post some new pics today with the changes I've made

Martin
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Posted: Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 09:05 PM UTC
Ok I've removed the camouflage netting and replaced the handles on the .50cal......now I've got another question. Sometimes I see that a small piece of the barrel is painted in an aluminium looking colour....like on this one:



http://www.missing-lynx.com/gallery/usa/szm4a1.htm

I guess it has something to do with the recoil of the 76mm gun.....but can someone confirm this, or am I wrong? And should it always be painted like this, or not?

Martin
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Posted: Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 09:08 PM UTC

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Hi,
I like the stowage. I seem to see a gap where the pistol port is attached to the turret. Can you putty to make the transition to the edge of the port smoth?
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I took a closer look at it and you're right!

Searching for my putty right now :-)
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Posted: Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 09:14 PM UTC
Hi Martin,
I think you will find that strip is actually white rather than metal and would be a marking of some sorts not to sure on what for though.
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Posted: Monday, February 28, 2005 - 03:44 AM UTC
Ok here are the changes I made...


before I started this thread


after I started this thread


new machinegun handles


the camouflage netting is removed

Started a new thread in armor/afv on this one...check this link:

https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/46502&page=1

Thanks for all the help, my shermie came out better!

Martin
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Posted: Monday, February 28, 2005 - 03:51 AM UTC
I don't think you needed to remove the entire camo net off the gun. You just didn't need to use so much and not run it all the way to the mantlet. In fact you might want to measure a 75mm barrel and net anything longer than the 75mm to the end of the muzzle. Crews often tried to hide the fact thay had the bigger guns since they were often singled out by German gunners due to their higer firepower.
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