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More eBay madness...MMiR's Sherman book!
toadman1
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Posted: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 04:52 PM UTC
I wonder how much someone would pay for one autographed by Pete Harlem, the guy who wrote it?
melon
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Posted: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 05:20 PM UTC
Someone paid a $112 for a book titled 'How to be a Sherman Nerd.'
I laugh, but I'm still waiting for the upcoming title, 'How to be an Abrams Addict' with the soon to follow 'How to be a LAV Maniac.'
All good fun here.
Melon
I laugh, but I'm still waiting for the upcoming title, 'How to be an Abrams Addict' with the soon to follow 'How to be a LAV Maniac.'
All good fun here.
Melon
modelman62
Joined: March 01, 2005
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Posted: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 11:18 PM UTC
I used to have the same thing. Squadrons walk around is alot better than that one!
Sabot
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Posted: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 01:47 AM UTC
Yes, but remember, you can't even consider yourself a "Sherman Expert" unless you actually own the MMiR Sherman guide and can say that you thumbed through a friend's Hunnicutt book.
Henk
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Posted: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 03:23 AM UTC
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Check out the military kits on ebay UK some guy from Japan has bid up to £185 for a 1/25 scale M60, the ad say`s it is rare but for that sort of cash you could buy a bucket of hens teeth
Well, 'rare' seems to have a different definition on ebay.
Someone is selling a 'rare' Tamiya M48A3 Patton tank, unfortunately for him so are about another 5 sellers :-) :-) :-) mostly starting bidding at 0.99 :-) :-) :-) :-) .
Best to do your research before hitting that button..
Cheers
Henk
Sabot
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Posted: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 03:57 AM UTC
I would agree that the old large scale M60A1 by Bandai is a rare kit. I don't know what that translates into USD, but it does seem like quite a lot. I've seen reissued Bandai kits at the hobby shop with prices ranging from $200+ so the extra rare M60A1 may be a valid amount.
Monte
Joined: December 08, 2002
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Posted: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 04:47 AM UTC
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I would agree that the old large scale M60A1 by Bandai is a rare kit. I don't know what that translates into USD, but it does seem like quite a lot. I've seen reissued Bandai kits at the hobby shop with prices ranging from $200+ so the extra rare M60A1 may be a valid amount.
I have that Bandai M60A1 in 1/24 scale and it is a nice kit. Fortunatly I didn't pay $200 for it but if I were to sell it on e-bay I'm sure that I could get at least that much.
scj1014
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Posted: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 06:02 PM UTC
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Hey, this is a typical p-ing contest between 2 rookie bidders that can't accept being out bid . After this is over one is going to be relieved he was out bid and the other sweating bullets when it comes time to pony up the cash . I wouldn't be surprized if the winner doesn't pay up .
Joe
Sir,
FYI, I was the winning bidder on this item.
Thanks for the kind words.
Just to set the record straight...I am not a "rookie", nor was I involved in a "p-ing" contest, I was merely doing my best to acquire an out-of-print book that I desired.
I simply tired of losing auctions and determined to set my max bid at a high enough level that it was unlikely that I would be outbid.
My intention is to use it, in conjunction with Hunnicutt's Sherman book and several other references that I have acquired recently, to help me build some fairly accurate Sherman tank models.
Rest assured that I will pay for the book. Also my e-bay feedback (for an admittedly small number of transactions...I generally only buy what can't be bought from an internet or brick and mortar store) is 100% and I intend for it to stay that way.
sincerely,
Steven C. Johnson
DRAGONWAGON
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Posted: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 07:09 PM UTC
Hear hear, Steven....
If you want something, and you can afford it....Go for it!!
I'm exactly the same, so don't bother too much on others opinions.
You decide what's it worth to you....
I hope you enjoy your new book,
Greetz, John.
If you want something, and you can afford it....Go for it!!
I'm exactly the same, so don't bother too much on others opinions.
You decide what's it worth to you....
I hope you enjoy your new book,
Greetz, John.
Grumpyoldman
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Posted: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 08:25 PM UTC
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1000 bucks for some prime Meadowlands property
:-) :-) :-) :-) Only a joisey boy would understand that.... :-) :-) :-) Meadowlands property is going around 1 million an acre now days..... :-) :-) :-) :-)
Bismark42
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Posted: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 08:35 PM UTC
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I would agree that the old large scale M60A1 by Bandai is a rare kit. I don't know what that translates into USD, but it does seem like quite a lot. I've seen reissued Bandai kits at the hobby shop with prices ranging from $200+ so the extra rare M60A1 may be a valid amount.
200 dollars could be a valid amount, but the kit has reached nearly 400 dollars and that is crazy money.
Dave
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Posted: Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 03:50 AM UTC
scj , I do apoligize for implying you would not pay . Didn't know you were such a serious modeler with deep pockets . But , you are a rookie e-bayer . Just look at your bidding record . On that first M7 there were only 2 bids , both yours . You bid against yourself . On the second M7 there were 8 bids , 7 of them yours . On the MMiR book there were 22 bids , 16 of them yours . That was a typical bidding war between 2 bidders that wanted that book bad . Or what I call a "p-ing contest" .
Been there done that .
Joe
Been there done that .
Joe
scj1014
Joined: March 02, 2005
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Posted: Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 05:29 AM UTC
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scj , I do apoligize for implying you would not pay . Didn't know you were such a serious modeler with deep pockets . But , you are a rookie e-bayer . Just look at your bidding record . On that first M7 there were only 2 bids , both yours . You bid against yourself . On the second M7 there were 8 bids , 7 of them yours . On the MMiR book there were 22 bids , 16 of them yours . That was a typical bidding war between 2 bidders that wanted that book bad . Or what I call a "p-ing contest" .
Been there done that .
Joe
Sir,
That bid record is not exactly accurate...all bids on the MMIR book were either automatic bid increases in response to bids made by other bidders or my bidding
the price up in small increments and receiving e-mails back from e-bay stating that I was still being out-bid by someone else's automatic bid.
The reason I bid up in small increments was because the previous auctions I had lost out on had topped out near that amount. I was merely trying to end the bidding at the lowest possible level. When it became obvious that the other bidder was willing to stay in the game,I set a max bid at a point I believed would be unlikely to be exceeded.
The auctions on the M7 you are concerned about were also in response to e-mail notifications by E-bay that my current bid had been exceeded. I had also set max bids on those items once it became obvious that bidding in response to e-mails from e-bay was consuming more time and attention than I was willing to spend.
Bottom line...I did not bid against myself.
I notice that several other auctions I was involved in don't reflect my participation at all. I assume that is because the winning bidders also set max bids that my max bid did not match.
As to whether I am a serious modeler, its a hobby that I enjoy. Both the building and the research are pleasant diversions,as are my annual trips to AMPS Nationals. I do not claim to be a master modeller,but I have a good time and meet many interesting people.
"deep pockets" ??? I wish! I simply work at a relatively well -paying job and use my discretionary income for the hobbies that I choose to indulge in.
Sincerely,
Steven C. Johnson
jimbrae
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Posted: Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 05:41 AM UTC
If Steven chose to pay what he paid for the book ultimately it's his business, his money and no one has the right to judge it. Personally, I wouldn't pay that much but we all have a different sense of values.
I'm pretty tempted to buy Hunnicutt's Armored Car book. I can get it for €120 what is it going for at the moment? (thet's around $150 by the way
)
Regarding e-bay, I've completely lost interest in it. IMHO it's become a shark-tank...Jim
I'm pretty tempted to buy Hunnicutt's Armored Car book. I can get it for €120 what is it going for at the moment? (thet's around $150 by the way
) Regarding e-bay, I've completely lost interest in it. IMHO it's become a shark-tank...Jim
Sabot
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Posted: Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 06:41 AM UTC
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Not really, more like one of those ponds with big carp floating about. Regarding e-bay, I've completely lost interest in it. IMHO it's become a shark-tank...Jim
Ebay is an extremely useful forum for the buying and selling of models. One of the reasons it has become the bloated selling site is because of all the retailers who sell there.In the early days of eBay (circa 1996-97), the population of buyers and sellers were mainly modelers like me and you. We were trying to sell off kits we no longer wanted and bought kits that had prices too good to pass up or were kits we've been searching for.
In these days i can remember surfing through the entire model category (military, cars, air, etc.) in about an hour. I remember writing down auction numbers to track the item (was no "watch" feature then).
There would be occasional collectors but they tended to aim for mint in box, unbuilt or rare kits. Another group were moms and wives who were selling off their son's or husband's kits, but all in all it was a pleasant place to do business. Very much like a private sale table at a model show.
Now the model category is populated mainly by online retailers. Some also have brick and mortar stores, others have online stores or both. The majority of the retailers have their entire store exist on eBay. I will not comment on whether or not this is good or bad, just my observation.
They list all the current inventory of Dragon, Academy, Tamiya... kits at retail price or close to it. All of their prices are close to identical. Most have a standard shipping cost per item. The only real savings to be gained is by ordering from a seller close to you or by combining auctions to lower your shipping costs.
If you could filter out the online retailers, there is still a bunch of modelers selling their kits at good prices. I've found some good deals although most of my purchases are for items that don't show up in local shops (some of the off-beat 1/72 scale items).
Just my 2¢ regarding eBay and models.
armormike
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Posted: Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 06:53 AM UTC
For the record you technically can't bid against yourself. You can still bid on an item you are winning, however all this does is raise the max you are willing to bid. It does not increase the current bid.
As someone who as bought and sold several hundred kits on ebay I agree it is fine to pay whatever you want on an item. Only you know how much the item is worth to you. No one should criticize because at some point they paid way to much for something (ie house, car, etc.)
As someone who as bought and sold several hundred kits on ebay I agree it is fine to pay whatever you want on an item. Only you know how much the item is worth to you. No one should criticize because at some point they paid way to much for something (ie house, car, etc.)
SHERMAN2
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Posted: Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 08:43 AM UTC
OK , my copy of the MMiR sherman guide is for sale . $100 and free shipping . US only . Like new , only thumbed through it .
Gee, talk about defensive !!! You win . Whatever.
Joe
Gee, talk about defensive !!! You win . Whatever.
Joe
RobH
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Posted: Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 12:35 PM UTC
Well, it's not a one off!
MMIR SHERMAN on EBAY
4 days to go and up to $72! Was tempted to start with but for this book, to me, it's silly. But it's choice and people are entitled to make their own.
However, I recent spent good money on Hunnicutt on Ebay. But then again, the £ is strong compared to the $ :-)
Rob
MMIR SHERMAN on EBAY
4 days to go and up to $72! Was tempted to start with but for this book, to me, it's silly. But it's choice and people are entitled to make their own.
However, I recent spent good money on Hunnicutt on Ebay. But then again, the £ is strong compared to the $
:-) Rob
scj1014
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Posted: Friday, March 04, 2005 - 05:17 AM UTC
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For the record you technically can't bid against yourself. You can still bid on an item you are winning, however all this does is raise the max you are willing to bid. It does not increase the current bid.
As someone who as bought and sold several hundred kits on ebay I agree it is fine to pay whatever you want on an item. Only you know how much the item is worth to you. No one should criticize because at some point they paid way to much for something (ie house, car, etc.)
Sir,
Thank you for your kind words.
Sincerely,
Steven C. Johnson
scj1014
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Posted: Friday, March 04, 2005 - 05:21 AM UTC
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If Steven chose to pay what he paid for the book ultimately it's his business, his money and no one has the right to judge it. Personally, I wouldn't pay that much but we all have a different sense of values.
I'm pretty tempted to buy Hunnicutt's Armored Car book. I can get it for €120 what is it going for at the moment? (thet's around $150 by the way
Regarding e-bay, I've completely lost interest in it. IMHO it's become a shark-tank...Jim
Sir,
Thank you for the kind words.
Sincerely,
Steven C. Johnson
scj1014
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Posted: Friday, March 04, 2005 - 05:23 AM UTC
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Hear hear, Steven....
If you want something, and you can afford it....Go for it!!
I'm exactly the same, so don't bother too much on others opinions.
You decide what's it worth to you....
I hope you enjoy your new book,
Greetz, John.
Sir,
Thank you for your kind words.
Sincerely,
Steven C. Johnson
ShermiesRule
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Posted: Friday, March 04, 2005 - 05:38 AM UTC
Well Steven, now that you have your book tell us about it? Regardless of your cost is it what you expected and will it help your projects? Does it have the details you were seeking? I have only seen one copy of this book and was sealed in plastic so I was unable to even thumb through it. Plus it was already purchased and being held for the buyer.
keenan
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Posted: Friday, March 04, 2005 - 05:58 AM UTC
This whole thread kind of tickles me. I can't tell you how many times people who do not share this past-time have told me, "You spent $45.00 on a toy tank? That is just nuts." Usually from guys that just spent $1500 on a blower for their race car or $250 for a fly rod. It is amusing that we are having this discussion at all, if you know what I mean...
To each their own I say.
Shaun
To each their own I say.
Shaun
cheyenne
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Posted: Friday, March 04, 2005 - 11:29 AM UTC
Dear Steven C. Johnson, I'm the jokester that posted the cracks about buying the Brooklyn Bridge, Meadowlands property and the U.S.S. New Jersey. My sincerest apologies, after reading through all the posts again and especially after reading Shaun Keenan's illogical logic which makes perfect sense by the way. Than reading your response posts , I myself have been ridiculed on some of my purchases. There's the Accurate Armor VIIC and entire quayside for 1500 bucks about 10 [ I think ] years ago, than I bought the Tank Workshop train engine & tender for about 500 bucks, both major purchases which can nowadays be bought for much less $ and in reasonable plastic form, well at least the train can in plastic. I guess what I'm trying to say is there is not much difference between us, we saw we wanted we bought and screw what anybody thinks, " one mans garbage is another mans gold "
keenan
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Posted: Friday, March 04, 2005 - 12:30 PM UTC
Thanks, Cheyenne.
Somehow or another the whole Spock thing is really working for me. Illogical logical is really working for me.
At least someone understood what I meant.
Thanks again,
Shaun
Somehow or another the whole Spock thing is really working for me. Illogical logical is really working for me.
At least someone understood what I meant.
Thanks again,
Shaun
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