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Awas, Ploppers! Dutch East Indies, 1948
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Posted: Monday, April 04, 2005 - 11:11 PM UTC
Hi all,

I made this small dio as a gift for my grandpa.

He fought in the Dutch East Indies from 1947 to 1950. A little history for those who haven't heard of this before: Indonesia was a Dutch colony. During WW2, it was captured by Japanese forces after heavy fighting with Dutch, New Zealand, Australian and British troops.

After the war the Dutch troops returned to their colony, but an independence war started. The Dutch government send a lot of troops. KNIL forces, (KNIL = Royal Dutch Indies Army) and the Dutch marines. The KNIL used British/commonwealth equipment and later also their onw Dutch camouflage uniforms and the marines used American equipment.


My grandpa with his Lee Enfield rifle

The independence war stopped in 1950. Dutch commandos captured the leader of the "rebels", but shortly after that Indonesia became an independant country.


My grandpa with his M3 scout car

The fighting in the Dutch East Indies was a sort of the Vietnam of the Dutch soldiers. In thick jungle, against a hard to fight enemy (every civil could be one). The Dutch government wanted to forget the war. Still WW2 veterans are being praised, but the Indies veterans are being forgotten. We lost thousands of men in the shadow of the WW2.


My grandpa in a camouflage poncho as loader behind a vickers machinegun

I'm very interested in this part of Dutch history, and my grandpa likes to tell me about his experiences, although the stories are not always nice ones to hear or tell.


My grandpa (in the front) with behind him one of his friends. Few days after the pic this guy was shot in the head with a by rebels captured .50cal machinegun....

I wanted to give him a diorama with things he would recognize. One of the vehicles he used was the brencarrier and his brencarrier was armed with a vickers .303 machine gun.


Brencarriers and Jeeps are lined up and ready for action

So I used the Tamiya Universial Carrier, the two figs in tropical uniforms, a resicast vickers machinegun, and a fig from tamiya's dingo scout car. Not very good figs but hey, the man is getting old and won't notice the difference between resin or plastic anyway

I borrowed his photoalbum with pics he made in Indonesia and saw a pic of a road sign saying "Einde beveiligd gebied" which means "End of secured zone". This was something he sure would recognize so I included it in my diorama.


A roadsign saying "End of secured zone"

Now the dio had to give a jungle feeling, so I made a small road, just big enough for the brencarrier, and I used aquarium plants for some jungleplants. I also made one plant with aluminium and iron wire.

Also the name was important. The nickname for the rebels was "ploppers" and Awas means something like "watch out" or "be ware". So the name means, watch out for rebels! My grandpa recognized and translated this too :-)

Well, check the pics for the results.....a pretty simple dio, and in my next jungle dio I will make a much thicker, more "closer" jungle, but my grandpa recognized plants, the brencarrier, the sign, the uniforms, the vickers...well he just loved it :-)


The brencarrier has stopped and a crewmember talks with a guard


Here you can see the road sign


Close-up. I gave the guard (and the bren crew) long throusers because they had short ones which weren't used because of bugs etc


Top view


The happy new owner

Well I hope you this little history lesson and dio :-)

Cheers,
Martin
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Posted: Monday, April 04, 2005 - 11:27 PM UTC
Hey Martin!

Nice little history, and a good present to your grandfather!

He sure is proud! You should too!!

Skipper
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Posted: Monday, April 04, 2005 - 11:31 PM UTC

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Hey Martin!

Nice little history, and a good present to your grandfather!

He sure is proud! You should too!!

Skipper



Thanks mate

Martin
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Posted: Monday, April 04, 2005 - 11:39 PM UTC
That's really nice. It's also good that you have a lot of photos to refer to.
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Posted: Monday, April 04, 2005 - 11:44 PM UTC
Thats very nice and well done too! You are a great grandson!
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That's really nice. It's also good that you have a lot of photos to refer to.



Yeah his photoalbum is pretty interesting. I have about 90 more pics, all small size but pretty good quality showing my grandpa and other soldiers after patrols/ambushes and also during patrols, pics of vehicles, shooting practice, train guard, parades, at-guns.....all very interesting!

I'm gonna do some more Dutch Indies stuff...maybe some marine equipment, like a M4 105mm HVSS in Dutch service or my M8 greyhoud I've got on stock now...

Martin
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Posted: Monday, April 04, 2005 - 11:53 PM UTC
Hi Martin,
Impressive story, well done diorama, and very well thought gift. The first and the last pictures are very sentimental.
cheers
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Posted: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 12:19 AM UTC

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A little history for those who haven't heard of this before: Indonesia was a Dutch colony. During WW2, it was captured by Japanese forces after heavy fighting with Dutch, New Zealand, Australian and British troops.

After the war the Dutch troops returned to their colony, but an independence war started. The Dutch government send a lot of troops. KNIL forces, (KNIL = Royal Dutch Indies Army) and the Dutch marines. The KNIL used British/commonwealth equipment and later also their onw Dutch camouflage uniforms and the marines used American equipment.

The independence war stopped in 1950. Dutch commandos captured the leader of the "rebels", but shortly after that Indonesia became an independant country.

My parents were born in Indonesia from Dutch fathers and Indonesian mothers. They both lived under Japanese occupation (dad born 1937 in Bandung, mom born 1941 in Jakarta) and the rebellion. When Indonesia gained their independence, all non-pure blooded Indonesians had to leave the country due to ethnic cleansing. They met on the boat leaving for Holland in 1955. Neither has returned to Indonesia and most Dutch Indonesian decendents I've met have nothing but disdain for Indonesia. They consider themselves Dutch.
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Posted: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 12:29 AM UTC

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A little history for those who haven't heard of this before: Indonesia was a Dutch colony. During WW2, it was captured by Japanese forces after heavy fighting with Dutch, New Zealand, Australian and British troops.

After the war the Dutch troops returned to their colony, but an independence war started. The Dutch government send a lot of troops. KNIL forces, (KNIL = Royal Dutch Indies Army) and the Dutch marines. The KNIL used British/commonwealth equipment and later also their onw Dutch camouflage uniforms and the marines used American equipment.

The independence war stopped in 1950. Dutch commandos captured the leader of the "rebels", but shortly after that Indonesia became an independant country.



My parents were born in Indonesia from Dutch fathers and Indonesian mothers. They both lived under Japanese occupation (dad born 1937 in Bandung, mom born 1941 in Jakarta) and the rebellion. When Indonesia gained their independence, all non-pure blooded Indonesians had to leave the country due to ethnic cleansing. They met on the boat leaving for Holland in 1955. Neither has returned to Indonesia and most Dutch Indonesian decendents I've met have nothing but disdain for Indonesia. They consider themselves Dutch.



So how did you end up in the United States? They went from Holland to the US? Or are you born in Holland and you went to the US?

Interesting connection you have with this part of history, thanks for telling me about it!

Do you like the dio?

Martin
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Posted: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 12:35 AM UTC

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So how did you end up in the United States? They went from Holland to the US? Or are you born in Holland and you went to the US?

Interesting connection you have with this part of history, thanks for telling me about it!

Do you like the dio?

Martin

Your diorama is very nice. I don't know enough about British WW2 equipment, but yours looks very nice.

I don't know too much about my parents' time in Indonesia. What I do know was passed to me by my mother's youngest cousin. She also settled in the US about 30+ years ago.

My parent were married in Holland in 1962 and then traveled to the US to settle that year. My sister, brother and I were all born and raised in the US.

Do a quick search of my last name in the town of Gouda and you will see my father's brothers still living there.
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Posted: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 12:43 AM UTC

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Do a quick search of my last name in the town of Gouda and you will see my father's brothers still living there.



Haha unbelievable! Guess in which town I live! Gouda!

edit: I checked it and V.L Gronovius lives in Gouda. The adress is let's say 10 - 15 min from my house!



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Posted: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 12:57 AM UTC
My Uncle Vic (Victor Louis). Should be also my Uncle Harry (Henry).
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Posted: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 12:59 AM UTC
Well done Martin. A lovely tribute to your grandfather.

You are indeed fortunate to be regaled by his wartime tales. My surviving grandfather would sooner forget the war (WW2) and his involvement therein.

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Posted: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 01:01 AM UTC
Nice work Martin,, and a lovely tribute to your Grandfather and his comrades
Cheers,
Bryan
P.S Thanks for the mini history lesson.. I can see a full fledged article brewing..hint hint
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Posted: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 01:20 AM UTC
G'day Martin
Very good mate, well done.
It's always good do do such a thing for a relative, they really appreciate it.
Cheers
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Posted: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 01:30 AM UTC

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Nice work Martin,, and a lovely tribute to your Grandfather and his comrades
Cheers,
Bryan
P.S Thanks for the mini history lesson.. I can see a full fledged article brewing..hint hint



Article hmm?



Thanks all for the replies!

Martin
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Posted: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 01:37 AM UTC
Yes Martin!

Article Article!

Skipper
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Posted: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 01:52 AM UTC
Martin, that's is simply wonderful of you to do something as nice as that for your grand father. You are a fine young man, and someone I'm sure your grand father is very proud of. Thank you so much for the short history lesson, and sharing your grand father's history with us.
Thanks for the great photos also, and you did a wonderful job on the model.
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Posted: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 02:00 AM UTC
I'm glad you all like it mates

Dave, thanks for your reply and welcome back on the forum, we missed you!

Martin
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Posted: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 02:15 AM UTC
Love your diorama. Excellent topic and very thoughtful to your Grand-dad. The pictures and the historical outline help us all remember this troubled time in history that was overshadowed by other events. Your diorama helps the memory of all those that gave their all in one of the "dirty little wars" that we often try to forget about. Well done!
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Posted: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 04:05 AM UTC
Hi Martin, sorry it is taking me so long to get a reply on this. You have prepared a great thread here, It is a touching story and I wonderful dio for your grandfather. I have to agree with the others I feel this should be an article Great Job my friend!!!! Cheers Kevin
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Posted: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 04:09 AM UTC
Hi Martin,

I had this subject on my final exam a view years ago. I find these photo's very interesting. In these studie books we didn't had such photo's.

Eventually we stopped the war under a big presure of the UN (mainly through the USA). The USA. would, when we (Dutchmen) didn't gave up our colony, they would stop the support (Food, machines etc.) to Holland.

It's, just as Martin mentioned, a Vietnam to us Dutchmen. These photo's are a great inspiration for comming dio's.

A great dio you have made for your granddad. You've watched for the historical correctness, that's something I still have to learn

Keep up the good work!

Marten
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Posted: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 05:17 AM UTC
Great and thoughtfull work Martin, I love a dio that tells a story, and on top of that, its a wellexecuted dio.

Splendid!

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Posted: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 07:16 AM UTC
My uncle served his military time in Indonesia. He was engineer, part of a Bailey bridge builders platoon.

Since my father was his favorite nephew, he brought home some presents ( which have survived to this day )

The Indonesian freedom fighters fought very dirty, like donning Dutch uniforms, leaving bodies heavily mutilated, fighting in civillian clothes and leaving all manner of nasty booby traps.

And allthough kept in check more, the Dutch didn't allways fight so nice either.

Sadly, my uncle passed away 6 years ago, due to lung cancer.

He will not be forgotten, nor will anyone who had to fight this dirty war.

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Eventually we stopped the war under a big presure of the UN (mainly through the USA). The USA. would, when we (Dutchmen) didn't gave up our colony, they would stop the support (Food, machines etc.) to Holland.

Why did you require US support? Or was it the lack of US support that did not allow Dutch forces to continue the fighting?
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