This was started a while back for the Tank Destroyer campaign and not finished until recently, slow builder. Tamiya kit with scratchbuilt and pe from the spares, finished with Tamiya acrylic and oils, the figures is a converted Warrior figure and Hornet head.I am not satisfied with the lighting on the pics, so some of the colors on the photos don't really match the actual vehicle. Anyway here it is hope you like.
Regards,
Robert
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Finished Jagdpanther
rbeebe99
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Posted: Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 11:10 AM UTC
Posted: Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 11:21 AM UTC
Splendid job Robert, nice camouflage. One thing puzzeled me though, the mufflers, crew heater on the air fan and the tools on the rear deck are all part off a 'late' JagdPanther, but the barrel cleaning rod tube is mounted on the side? I thought it was mounted on the rear edge of the engine deck? But I like the covers over the air intake/ outlets on the engine deck, (PE or scratch?) and the figure looks equaly good.
Cheers
Henk
Cheers
Henk
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Posted: Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 11:22 AM UTC
Robert
Overall that is a fantastic looking Jagdpanther What type of tracks did you use? A few years back I built that Tamiya kit and had to use indy links The kit ones were too tight and broke on me
Also,what is the purpose of the red covers on the engine deck?
Overall that is a fantastic looking Jagdpanther What type of tracks did you use? A few years back I built that Tamiya kit and had to use indy links The kit ones were too tight and broke on me
Also,what is the purpose of the red covers on the engine deck?
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Posted: Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 11:30 AM UTC
Henk,
the barrel cleaning tube was also relocated to the original position when the anti shrapnel shields were put on, I had originally intended to place it on the rear, but then added the shrapnel covers and put the tube back.
Chad the tracks are friul, and the plates were to give more protection to the engine and exhaust from shrapnel.
Regards,
Robert
the barrel cleaning tube was also relocated to the original position when the anti shrapnel shields were put on, I had originally intended to place it on the rear, but then added the shrapnel covers and put the tube back.
Chad the tracks are friul, and the plates were to give more protection to the engine and exhaust from shrapnel.
Regards,
Robert
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Posted: Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 11:32 AM UTC
What's the deal with the small zimmerit section on the back?
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Posted: Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 11:34 AM UTC
Robert that is a very sweet looking jagdpanther you have there. Congrats on the excellent work.Cheers Kevin
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Posted: Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 11:39 AM UTC
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What's the deal with the small zimmerit section on the back?
The zimerit coated box was added on some Jagdpanthers as an additional stowage area, I made this one to look like it was taken off another vehicle presumably a panther or jagdpanther that was zimmerited. There are some pics on the net of the box and also one pic I found of a panzer lehr jagdpanther with a US soldier sitting on the roof with his foot on it.
Regards,
Robert
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Posted: Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 01:29 PM UTC
Hi Robert.
Very fine looking Jagdpanther. Really like the camouflage job you did. Great build. Thanks for sharing.
Joe
Very fine looking Jagdpanther. Really like the camouflage job you did. Great build. Thanks for sharing.
Joe
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Posted: Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 01:38 PM UTC
Awesome..its like, weathered..and clean at the same time..
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Posted: Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 01:50 PM UTC
Outstanding, love the tank, But I think I love the figure more. Where is he from and how did you do him?
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Posted: Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 02:20 PM UTC
The figure is a conversion of Warriors and Alpine miniatures, I had originally intended to use the Alpine figure but broke the collar of his tunic and could not resculpt it to the level Taesung Harmms had. So I just combined the two and used a Hornet head. The entire figure is painted with acrylics, Andrea, Vallejo and Citadel miniature paints. The tunic is painted with a mix of flat black and flesh, then highlighted and shaded with more of the original colors mixed into the base color. The trousers which you cannot see in the pictures are painted in the oak leaf pattern, with a base mix of earth khaki and grey, then the pattern is laid in with german orange and black green. I have a flesh mix chart using the above acrylics if you would like it let me know. Hope this helps.
Regards,
Robert
Regards,
Robert
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Posted: Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 02:31 PM UTC
Robert, your Jagdpanther turned out very nicely. The weathering is very subtle, which personally I like as it really shows off the well done camo scheme. I hope you don't mind if I add a little to your answer about the barrel cleaning rod storage tube being mounted on the side. Henk, the location of the tube didn't denote a late or early JP. Like the storage bin mounted on the rear of the superstructure, it too was a unit level modification done in the field, not at the factory.
Cheers,
Mike
Cheers,
Mike
Posted: Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 11:44 PM UTC
Hi Robert,
you have a very goodlooking Jagdpanther there... and I seriously hope mine turns out only half as good. I like the was you used the rack for the spare track-links to hang some extra stowage on.
I do have on nitpick however. The one thing on Jagdpanthers which did NOT receive zimmerit was the added on stowage bin, or at least not in the pictures I have seen.
The bin is thought to be a feature specific for Schwere Panzerjaeger Abteilung 654 (though someone on this board came up with a pic supposedly of a JP belonging to another unit)). Neither the mongraph by K-H Munch on this unit, nor the Militaria booklet about the Jagdpanther had any pictures with the zimmeritted stowage bin. As Mike stated the stowage bin was an add-on (and not even to all JP of 654) and I think that is the reason they are not zimmeritted.
A few add-ons to Mike's statements, concerning the modifications:
You see the modification (relocation of tools) already on the early models. In fact, the first pic I see this for certain is on page 441 of the monograph by Munch, with Jagdpanther 314, captured by the English on 1 August 1944 at St. Pierre.
In the same book there is actually a list of recommendations (accompanied by sketches) for improvements of the Jagdpanther (including relocation of the tools) signed of by the battalion commander on 25 July 1944 (page 314-318).
Another alternative for determinig the version (early/middle/late) often mentioned is looking at the gunmantled and the barrel. Again, this is dangerous, as I have seen both the flush (early) and bolted mantled with single-piece and two-step barrels, late models with bolted on mantlets and single-piece muzzles and an early version with the bolted on mantlet (though Zimmerit was mostly gone).
As far as I know, the determining features for the version are the drivers'periscope (two vs one) and the roof (late version has three extra "thingies" on the roof, look like mounts for something).
As said before, your modell looks awesome.
Hope this helps a bit,
Harm
you have a very goodlooking Jagdpanther there... and I seriously hope mine turns out only half as good. I like the was you used the rack for the spare track-links to hang some extra stowage on.
I do have on nitpick however. The one thing on Jagdpanthers which did NOT receive zimmerit was the added on stowage bin, or at least not in the pictures I have seen.
The bin is thought to be a feature specific for Schwere Panzerjaeger Abteilung 654 (though someone on this board came up with a pic supposedly of a JP belonging to another unit)). Neither the mongraph by K-H Munch on this unit, nor the Militaria booklet about the Jagdpanther had any pictures with the zimmeritted stowage bin. As Mike stated the stowage bin was an add-on (and not even to all JP of 654) and I think that is the reason they are not zimmeritted.
A few add-ons to Mike's statements, concerning the modifications:
You see the modification (relocation of tools) already on the early models. In fact, the first pic I see this for certain is on page 441 of the monograph by Munch, with Jagdpanther 314, captured by the English on 1 August 1944 at St. Pierre.
In the same book there is actually a list of recommendations (accompanied by sketches) for improvements of the Jagdpanther (including relocation of the tools) signed of by the battalion commander on 25 July 1944 (page 314-318).
Another alternative for determinig the version (early/middle/late) often mentioned is looking at the gunmantled and the barrel. Again, this is dangerous, as I have seen both the flush (early) and bolted mantled with single-piece and two-step barrels, late models with bolted on mantlets and single-piece muzzles and an early version with the bolted on mantlet (though Zimmerit was mostly gone).
As far as I know, the determining features for the version are the drivers'periscope (two vs one) and the roof (late version has three extra "thingies" on the roof, look like mounts for something).
As said before, your modell looks awesome.
Hope this helps a bit,
Harm
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Posted: Monday, April 18, 2005 - 12:09 AM UTC
Robert excellent build. Keep building em' the way you want man. They look great to me. "Q"
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Posted: Monday, April 18, 2005 - 12:10 AM UTC
rbeebe99 -
Sweet looking JagdPanther and still my favorite AFV. You've it proud. Especially like the crew figure, he definitely has personality and brings out an "attitude" in this build. Was the body camo "hand painted"? The side skirts look a little more "straight edged". Great job and congrats.
Blade48mrd
Sweet looking JagdPanther and still my favorite AFV. You've it proud. Especially like the crew figure, he definitely has personality and brings out an "attitude" in this build. Was the body camo "hand painted"? The side skirts look a little more "straight edged". Great job and congrats.
Blade48mrd
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Posted: Monday, April 18, 2005 - 01:26 AM UTC
Great looking Jagdpanther Robert. Great paintjob. Figure looks great to.
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Posted: Monday, April 18, 2005 - 03:08 AM UTC
Great work i wouldn't change a thing, i like the Zimm stowage on the back and the primer colored panels it gives a nice color contrast.
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Posted: Monday, April 18, 2005 - 02:12 PM UTC
Thanks everyone, this was one of those builds where "almost" everything fell into place, it helps to start with a great kit and Tamiya has and does a great job with their kits, Harm I appreciate the comments and the information, when I started this build I had a pretty good idea of what I wanted to do, what you see is 98% of my original plan. I posted the pic of the Jagdpanther from pz Lehr with the US soldier propping his foot up on what appeared to be the additional stowage box. Unfortunately I don't know where that pic is right now. I saved it to disc along with about 3-4000 pics of my 2 daughters and I am trying to go through about 11 discs and find it. When I do I will post it on this thread. So to make a long story short this vehicle is loosely based on a 2pz Lehr vehicle, please don't take this as a negative response to your information I just wanted to make sure you didn't think the Jagdpanther was a 654 vehicle Thanks again.
Regards,
Robert
Regards,
Robert
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Posted: Monday, April 18, 2005 - 02:15 PM UTC
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rbeebe99 -
Was the body camo "hand painted"? The side skirts look a little more "straight edged". Great job and congrats.
Blade48mrd
Hi Mike,
Nope it was all done with a single action pasche airbrush, the skirts were masked with silly putty to look like a splinter pattern.
Regards,
Robert