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Posted: Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 04:04 AM UTC
Hi guys!
These are the photos of the revell/monogram M34 truck that I'm currently building. I added a few details made of brass wire and styrene bits. I will have to scratch build jerrycan hold for italeri spare one and some turn signal guards and scavenge some signals from parts box. She will also have tissue(canvas) top.
What do you think of it? I'm waiting for criticism

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Posted: Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 04:09 AM UTC
I've built this model before and admire your efforts to get the most out of it. At this time, I'd suggest removing the heavy seams from the tires.

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Posted: Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 04:18 AM UTC
Lookung good so far. One comment, If you are doing a soft canvas top, the rear wall should be cut down to the level of the doors. The higher back wall was part of the hard top version. Your support rod is right, just needs to be down to the lowred back wall, and also need a horizontal piece going back to where the top of the hard wall is. Hope that makes sense. You can kinda see the cancas top support rods in the below pics. M35A2s, but same top set-up).




And on Tala Chouman's Scratch-built 1/15 M35A2 model


Keep us posted on progress.
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Posted: Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 04:21 AM UTC
I already tried that Jim, but that only told me that i don't know how to do this. Neither trying to cut it of with a hobby knife nor sanding it with sandpaper gave the result i'd be happy with...

Grzegorz
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Posted: Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 04:33 AM UTC
Thanks for the advice and reference Gino! I was planning to just cover the hard part of the back wall with the tissue, but now I'll biult it per your photos.
Thanks again for feedback!

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Posted: Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 04:43 AM UTC
To remove the tire seam, mount them in a motor tool or drill and turn them on a piece of rough sand paper, 100 grit works well. This will give an even tire tread area and smooth out the seam. You can also use this method to wear a tire down to show a well used tire. Just continue to turn on the sand paper till you wear it down to the desired level.

Good luck.

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Posted: Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 04:48 AM UTC

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I already tried that Jim, but that only told me that i don't know how to do this. Neither trying to cut it of with a hobby knife nor sanding it with sandpaper gave the result i'd be happy with...

Grzegorz



Yep - Gino's advice above is good. When I built mine, I wet the tires and then froze them in the Freezer overnight. It made the tires a bit more rigid and receptive to sanding.

Gunnie
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Posted: Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 08:22 AM UTC
The cab is reworked to acomodate the tissue canvas:]
I also sanded first three tires, it looks rough but it kinda worked though :]
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Posted: Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 08:23 AM UTC
ooops!!!
forgot to paste the picture...
sorry!
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Posted: Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 08:57 AM UTC
Pedro, Canvas supports on the cab look great. Good job.
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Posted: Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 09:30 AM UTC
Thanks Gino!!! I'm doing my best
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Posted: Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 09:54 AM UTC
Nice work there - how far do you plan on going with detailing - so I don't keep suggesting esoteric details that you don't want to get into?

Gunnie
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Posted: Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 10:05 AM UTC
Very nice build in deed! One thing that is a little work but will probably improve the look as well as the accuracy of the vehicle is to revise the mirrors on the outside. I'm not sure about very early versions or those used by allies, but I don't recall ever seeing any models without mirrors like the one's in Gino's photos.

I scratch built mine using a paper clip, and it wasn't too difficult. It may be more detail than you want (or might not be right for what you're doing), but most of the versions I've seen had the "west coast" style.

Tom
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Posted: Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 10:11 AM UTC

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Nice work there - how far do you plan on going with detailing - so I don't keep suggesting esoteric details that you don't want to get into?

Gunnie



I would like to go as far as my skills allow me to go;)
I kinda started to like scratchbuilding / detailing
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Posted: Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 10:17 AM UTC
Okay then!

I assume you're going to stick with the early rearview mirrors - like I did for my M44 series truck. Mine was the base truck for the M4 LaCrosse Guided Missile Launcher. Many M34's had this style and I can keep thinking "M34" "M34"...

Since you cleaned up the tire seams - how's about adding simple air valve stems? I like to use .006 or .008 brass wire for this.

Gunnie
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Posted: Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 10:36 AM UTC
Really nice work so far!
You´re bring this less detailed model to a very top level, real good to see how we can improve old molds kits to a better standards, I´m used to do it a lot, see my latest Tiger I made from that awfull Tamiya mold from the 70´s.
Keep showing the progress pictures, ok?
Good luck!
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Posted: Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 11:04 AM UTC
You are doing a great job on this old kit. I have used it in the past to make the M-54 conversion cab. The mirrors are the correct ones for this truck. We had a few of them in my unit in mid 67. We turned them over to the ARVN's in Sep 1967 when we received the M-35 series trucks. For the tire seams I use a course nail board. You do not have to remove very much of the rubber to get the look. All you have to remove is the center line in the tire. I am enjoying the effort and thought you are giving this kit. It gives me some incentive to work with a couple of these kits that I have in my stash.
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Posted: Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 11:11 AM UTC

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It gives me some incentive to work with a couple of these kits that I have in my stash.



It would make a fun "informal" modeling project wouldn't it?!? I've got a couple of these oldies sitting on my shelves too begging to be built...

Gunnie
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Posted: Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 07:28 PM UTC
Hey guys!
Thanks for good words out there!

Gunnie:
Thanks for the tip with valve stems

Paulo:
I've seen your tiger, realy nice detail work out there too

animal:
The thing with tires on (or under;))my truck is that their halves are misfit for about a 0,5 of milimeter or more.
I've already taken care of it though

I'll keep you updated with my progress

Pedro
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Posted: Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 10:25 PM UTC
You're doing a pretty good job with this mate. My version of this one is now broken up for parts because I never thought about doing what you just did to it.
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Posted: Friday, April 22, 2005 - 12:33 AM UTC
Pedro, did this model come with dual wheels in the back, or singles, cause I noticed your only showing singles

Kerry
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Posted: Friday, April 22, 2005 - 02:37 AM UTC

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Pedro, did this model come with dual wheels in the back, or singles, cause I noticed your only showing singles

Kerry


This model did come with singles only, also the 2 pictures of m 34 that I have seen are showing it with only single ones. I belive that there wasn't m34's with dual wheels.

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Posted: Friday, April 22, 2005 - 02:38 AM UTC

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Pedro, did this model come with dual wheels in the back, or singles, cause I noticed your only showing singles

Kerry



M34 had single rear tires, along with a wheel well on the cargo bed sides. It was quite different than the later M35 series.
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Posted: Friday, April 22, 2005 - 03:44 AM UTC
That explains it. You guys are WAY older than I am. :-) :-)

By the time I got to my first unit, all I ever saw was the M-35 series. OOOPS!!!

Tom
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Posted: Friday, April 22, 2005 - 06:11 AM UTC
I was wondering if anyone can help me and tell me where on rim do I have to place the valve stem?
I can't seem to find any reference on that...

Pedro
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