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Psyfool
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Posted: Monday, August 29, 2005 - 03:45 AM UTC
Hi frends,

Have a look at my latest dio. It's a dio of a Panther G w/ nightviewer late in the war. The crew is busy checking out what's wrong with the 'cat' while the crew are busy chit chatting. Pls comment and point out any discrepancies or faults u can see in this dio. Thanx!






Teacher
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Posted: Monday, August 29, 2005 - 03:54 AM UTC
I ond't think you'll get many people pointing out faults Psy. It looks xcellent from where I'm sitting! Quite brilliant in fact. The groundwork, everything. Thw only nipick, and it is a very small one is the corrugated sheeting on the cover. I could be wrong, but it looks square-cut instead of 'rounded', and if this is the case I think it's wrong for the period. Also the underside of it looks flat....what did you use for it?

Vinnie
Psyfool
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Posted: Monday, August 29, 2005 - 04:05 AM UTC
Hi Vinnie, thanx for the quick response! Nice that u liked my dio. The 'zinc' roof is actually made of brown cardboard boxes (used for packaging) that I strip off. I tink it's more rounded than squared. Probably it's the photo. The bottom part of the roof I actually intend to do something about it as it looks too flat and smooth but missed it out. Thanx again Vinnie!!
allycat
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Posted: Monday, August 29, 2005 - 04:08 AM UTC
Psyfool,
Great build! Is it set back from the battle area because no one seems to have any personnel weapons lying around?
The corrugated sheeting seems to stand out a bit too bright. (Could just be the angle or my eyes) Perhaps it need's more weathering? It'd be like a big marker for any allied Jabo's flying around.
And did they ever put their 'crosses' that near the front? I'm no expert but I can't remember ever seeing them squashed up at the bow like that.
Other than that... Excellent!
Tom
Psyfool
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Posted: Monday, August 29, 2005 - 04:12 AM UTC
Hi Tom, yup, I'll wheather the roof a bit. I agree It's too shiny for comfort! As for the markings, I'm not too sure too. I just followed the instructions on the Tamiya instruction sheet...
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Posted: Monday, August 29, 2005 - 04:29 AM UTC
Looking very good, detail everywhere. All nicely done. Well executed layout.
graeme
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Posted: Monday, August 29, 2005 - 05:49 AM UTC
beautiful beautiful looks excelent i really like it. the horse in teh back everything is covered nothing is missed. excelent.

Graeme
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Posted: Monday, August 29, 2005 - 06:17 AM UTC
Two IR observations, largely my impressions since I'm at work now and would have to dig through my references at home to figure why I though that was so.

Firstly the right rear stowage box was -sometimes or always??- replaced with square sided storage box for the IR scope.

Secondly, It is my understanding that the scope was removed from the framework arrangement during the daylight hours to protect the optics.

Other than that, I like the groundwork and composition a great deal. I can't tell from the darkness of the last picure but you seem to have resisited the urge to have every mechanic and clerk typist with an MP 44 and Panzerfaust 100 right at hand... or just sitting about.

My US$0.02

Mike
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Posted: Monday, August 29, 2005 - 06:32 AM UTC
Psyfool, A beautiful scene you have created here. Aside from the "tin" roof" being to bright it is excellent all around. You should be very proud of this work. Cheers Kevin
Prato
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Posted: Monday, August 29, 2005 - 08:33 AM UTC
Psyfool, I find your work fantastic! The scene has a lot of points to catch our attention and it's all very well built, painted and weathered! Congratulations!
Cheers and happy modelling!
Prato
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Posted: Monday, August 29, 2005 - 08:42 AM UTC
Marvelous !!!

Only one thing looks out of place or out of color and that's the horse (or donkey ?).... I think it needs a bit of an orange/brown shine. Right now it looks a bit too flat colored, blending in the other natural toned objects. Giving it that bit of extra care, can really bring it to life. I think a very light drybrush with orange/brown will do the trick.

And for the rest.... does the word "awesome" cover it.... ?

A wonderful job!
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Posted: Monday, August 29, 2005 - 09:27 AM UTC
I like it a lot! Very well done.
Thanks for posting it.
Chuck
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Posted: Monday, August 29, 2005 - 11:52 AM UTC
Looks Great! I have to agree with the others on the tin roof, but other than that, I give er a thumbs up! BTW can we get a pic top down looking at the mechanics on the top deck?
3442
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Posted: Monday, August 29, 2005 - 12:09 PM UTC
psyfool, thats an amazing dio you got there! the cats a buity and the scene is great, iam just curiouse about hte corugated roof, shouldnt it be the other way around, with the shingles beinmg horizontal and not verticle? i've never seens a metal roof that way on old canadien barns.... jsut curiouse.

Frank
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Posted: Monday, August 29, 2005 - 12:24 PM UTC
I see a huge problem... not enough pics!
Sticky
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Posted: Monday, August 29, 2005 - 12:30 PM UTC

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psyfool, thats an amazing dio you got there! the cats a buity and the scene is great, iam just curiouse about hte corugated roof, shouldnt it be the other way around, with the shingles beinmg horizontal and not verticle? i've never seens a metal roof that way on old canadien barns.... jsut curiouse.

Frank



Now isn't that a funny thing, I'm under 60 miles from the Quebec boarder and in Vermont we run em like he shows. Go figure.
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Posted: Monday, August 29, 2005 - 12:51 PM UTC
....a very impressive dio psyfool... lots of details, and i like the poses & interaction between the figures. good job there mate...!

howewver, as shermiesrule mentioned: not enough pics! ...show us more!
Kelley
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Posted: Monday, August 29, 2005 - 12:54 PM UTC
"Psy"
A couple of small things, one of which has already been mentioned. The right rear stowage box was indeed different on the few Panthers that were built for IR usage. It would be a pain to replace at this point so I wouldn't worry about it, just something for future reference. Also it's hard to tell from your pics but did you include the small "U" shaped ring in front of the commanders cupola? This was there as a guard for the small hole through which the steel band that connected the IR unit to the main gun went. (I hope that makes sense) Other than that and a couple of other small things already mentioned (roof being one) I think you have done a great job here!
Oh, you would indeed have found Panthers with the Balkenkreuze placed that far forward on the hull side, so no problem there. There is a fairly well known pic, in the old Squadron Panther book just to name one, where this is the case.
Last thing and I'll shut-up , here is a link to a Panther with the IR set-up where you can clearly see the rear stowage box and the difference. This model was built by Mirko Bayerl, who is known to meticulosly research his subjects so they are historically correct.

http://www.missing-lynx.com/gallery/german/panther_ausf_g_bayer/panther_ausf_g_bayer.htm

Cheers,
Mike
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Posted: Monday, August 29, 2005 - 01:31 PM UTC

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psyfool, thats an amazing dio you got there! the cats a buity and the scene is great, iam just curiouse about hte corugated roof, shouldnt it be the other way around, with the shingles beinmg horizontal and not verticle? i've never seens a metal roof that way on old canadien barns.... jsut curiouse.

Frank

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Now isn't that a funny thing, I'm under 60 miles from the Quebec boarder and in Vermont we run em like he shows. Go figure.


you know john i bet your right, maybe my memory is playing tricks on me.. its only logic to have the roof that way... maybe iam confused with those ceramic tiles used for roofs

Frank
russ
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Posted: Monday, August 29, 2005 - 08:09 PM UTC
Great job Psyfool, as has been said there isn't much to fault on this. Love the finish on the Panther and the Kubelwagon. Nice job.

hemble
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Posted: Monday, August 29, 2005 - 09:00 PM UTC
Very excellent dio well thought out and everything is painted and weathered great well done

Ron
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Posted: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 12:58 AM UTC
Nice Dio. Lots of detail. Keep up the good work

Brian
Psyfool
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Posted: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 01:18 AM UTC
Hi Amorama Frends!! Thanx for all the comments & inputs! The info abt the IR viewer is very useful..I'm trying my best to post more pix, but seem to be encountering some problems..I'll get them posted as soon as I can!
Sensei
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Posted: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 01:35 AM UTC
Excellent dios, i wouldnt change anything except the colour of the donkey looks to shiny a bit...

but other than that marvelous work!

Mirko
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Posted: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 02:02 AM UTC
One more comment on the horse...he looks like he's walking right into the wall.
Other's have mentioned the roof.
Beyound that, very nicely done. The mechanics look like two typical guys lokoing under a hood (bonnet in England) and thinking , "Gee, I wonder what that's supposed to do?"
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