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British Troops in Holland
SchuetzeA
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Posted: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 - 04:57 AM UTC
Hi, i will build a Firefly from Dragon, and the Crew i got for it has Winteruniforms, so i want to present it in the early Spring 45. Now to my question: Does here anybody know which british divisions were in Holland at this time?
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Posted: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 - 10:35 AM UTC
Armoured divisions:

Guards Armoured
7th Armoured (Desert Rats)
11th Armoured
79th Armoured (specialist armour)

Army Tank Brigades using Shermans:

4th Armoured Brigade
8th Armoured Brigade (DDs)
27th Armoured Brigade (DDs)
33rd Armoured Brigade (later used Buffaloes & Kangaroos).

Hope this helps.


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Posted: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 - 04:42 AM UTC
Thanks, can you tell me, if any of these Divisions are on this Eduard mask :

?
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Posted: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 - 05:23 AM UTC
Yes, all of the divisions are. 11th Armoured is the bull, 2nd & 5th, 3rd row down. 7th Armoured is the rat (jerboa), top 2 & bottom 2 of the middle 6, & 1st & 6th bottom row. Guards Armoured is the eye (which was supposed to wink if it saw a virgin!) 3rd & 4th bottom row.
7th AD marking was red on white in NWE, red on black post war. 11th was black on yellow with red horns GAD was red on blue.
The Army Tank Brigades usually had "diabolos" (two triangles conjoined at the points) of differing colours.
Amongst the other signs I recognise on the template are the white rhino of 1st Armoured, the mailed fist I can't remember (8th AD? or Corps?), & the wyvern of 43rd ID (Wessex). Can't remember the rest but can look them up tonight.
Infantry divisions didn't have organic tank units, that was the pupose of the Army Tank Brigades, some of which had Shermans, but which tended to field Churchill (=infantry) tanks. Hope this helps.
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Posted: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 - 05:48 AM UTC
Sorry, not "all" divisions shown. 79th AD doesn't appear on the template (bull's "mask" on triangle), but since it was special purpose armour anyway it doesn't really matter.
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Posted: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 - 05:49 AM UTC
Sorry, not "all" divisions shown. 79th AD doesn't appear on the template (bull's "mask" on triangle), but since it was special purpose armour anyway it doesn't really matter.
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Posted: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 - 05:55 AM UTC
the mailed fist is the 10th AD, the 17/21st lancers belong to it during WWII.
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Posted: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 - 12:06 PM UTC

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the mailed fist is the 10th AD, the 17/21st lancers belong to it during WWII.



That should be 6th Armoured Div, fought in Tunisia and Italy.

The 10th Armoured used a fox mask, middle of the top row on that mask fret. 8th Armoured Brigade use a similar design but in different colours.


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& the wyvern of 43rd ID (Wessex).



That is the emblem of 23rd Armoured Brigade.
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