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There is I believe only one Tiger I in running condition in the world. Anyone who complains they don't use real Tigers in movies when 99.999999999% of the audience doesn't know the difference or care anyway should get a grip.
Movie producers use what is available and what is affordable. There are practical limits after all.
OK so what tanks were used in the movie PATTON. I watched it last weekend and I don't think I saw one sherman or M3. I couldn't make out what tanks they tried to pass off as shermans. I was thinking they may have been m47 or m48 but not an expert yet.
Anyone know?
GG
Quoted TextThe directors and movie producers doesn't give a damn about original equipment,
And sadly so often they dont care about the truth either.
I seem to remember at one point that kelly's heroes was filmed in Yugoslavia. I could be wrong...
Actually Private Ryan's and Band of Brothers Tiger, were modified T55.
Also Battle of The Bulge's suposed to be King Tigers, were gray painted M47 and to make it more realistic they mirrored the film, so the commander's cupola to be seen on the left side of the turret!!!![]()
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Quoted TextOK so what tanks were used in the movie PATTON. I watched it last weekend and I don't think I saw one sherman or M3. I couldn't make out what tanks they tried to pass off as shermans. I was thinking they may have been m47 or m48 but not an expert yet.
Anyone know?
GG
Weren't those Chaffees?
Having seen 1/1 mock-ups of a Tiger (on T34 chassis), Stug (on FV432) & Jagdpanther (also on FV432), I have to say that although they wouldn't fool an expert for a second, in a film shot disguised by debris & smoke & at a distance they would look pretty good (as indeed the did in Band of Brothers). One also needs to remember that even the Patton tanks used in BOTB are collectable now, so it's unlikely we'll be seeing films using large numbers of real tanks again. A Bridge Too Far may well be one of thelast of it's type. Having watched Troy & the Lord of the Rings films, it's amazing how convincing CGI can look now, so there is no need any more to mess about with temperamental old vehicles any more.
Quoted TextHaving seen 1/1 mock-ups of a Tiger (on T34 chassis), Stug (on FV432) & Jagdpanther (also on FV432), I have to say that although they wouldn't fool an expert for a second, in a film shot disguised by debris & smoke & at a distance they would look pretty good (as indeed the did in Band of Brothers). One also needs to remember that even the Patton tanks used in BOTB are collectable now, so it's unlikely we'll be seeing films using large numbers of real tanks again. A Bridge Too Far may well be one of thelast of it's type. Having watched Troy & the Lord of the Rings films, it's amazing how convincing CGI can look now, so there is no need any more to mess about with temperamental old vehicles any more.
They tried to avoid CGI at LOTR as much as possible, and used miniatures a lot... But the thing is: who cares if the Tiger doesn't look exactly like a Tiger in the movie. It's a contract between us and the director: he tells a tale, and we suspend our disbeliefs in cave trolls, wizards, and Tigers for the time being.
EDIT: someone here said it a few years ago that Eastwood and Sutherland insisted on having a relatively accurate Tiger, instead of the usual Patton.
Quoted TextOK so what tanks were used in the movie PATTON. I watched it last weekend and I don't think I saw one sherman or M3. I couldn't make out what tanks they tried to pass off as shermans. I was thinking they may have been m47 or m48 but not an expert yet.
Anyone know?
GG
Weren't those Chaffees?
Hey Andras,
Is this this the post you meant?
Posted: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 08:00 PM GMT
Unfortunately, until recently, there have been very few German AFV's in running order for use in movies.
U.S. M2/M3 Half-Tracks have been starring as Sd.Kfz.251's for many years and everthing from M3 Stuarts to M47 Pattons have beem filling in for German "Panzers".
The 1st movie I ever saw that tried to address this was "Kelly's Heroes".
The movies director and producer apparently wanted to use available T-34/85's as the Tigers in the finale of the movie but apparently Clint Eastwood and Donald Sutherland said no.
Supposedly. both stars are history buffs and insisted that the T-34's should be made to look like Tigers.
Except for the tracks and suspension and the overall size of the vehicles, these "Tigers" look pretty good.
The same thing has been done of late in productions like "Saving Private Ryan" and "Band of Brothers" where T-34's, T-55's and various other AFV's have been "Germanized" to look more like the real thing.
I'd love to see a movie with the recently refurbished Bovington Tiger I but it's not likely to happen.
It would be great to see and hear that old "girl" in a starring role.
Here's hoping!!
Cheers
jjumbo
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