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M110A2
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Posted: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 01:34 AM UTC

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He also dragged a rather large box along... one of his friends ( also a militairy vehicle preservationist) had a Dragon Wagon (with the trailer) in the cupboard, and would I be interested in building it?? Would I..? .


The DW is a great kit and practically falls together. Not a difficult kit at all. Give it a go, you won't be disappointed.
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Posted: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 06:54 AM UTC

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IThat would work to make an M110 or M110A1 version as served in Vietnam. All other canges were internal upgrades to the engine, transmission, and hydraulics.


Gino, thanks that's what I suspected .... If I'm not mistaken, the GS Bn in 3AD had the earlier M110/A1 in the early 70's ... I never supported them so I'm not sure ...

John
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Posted: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 09:41 PM UTC

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Gino, thanks that's what I suspected .... If I'm not mistaken, the GS Bn in 3AD had the earlier M110/A1 in the early 70's ... I never supported them so I'm not sure ...

John


John, I'm not certain, but I believe that it was still the M110. I was in a DS unit in the 8th ID (the other V Corps Division at the time) and I seem to recall that 3/16 which was our GS unit had M110s and not A1s. I do know for certain that when I arrived, two of the three DS units, mine, 1/2nd FA, and 1/83rd had M109 short tubes and switched to the M109A1 long tube in 1973 and at the same time we also went from plain OD to the original 7th Army 4 color pattern paint. I don't recall the 8" guys saying they had A1s.

One odd fact. When I got to Germany in Oct of 1972, the 8th IDs 1st Brigade was Airborne, consisting of 1st, 2nd and 3rd Bns of the 509th Parachute Infantry Regiment, and their DS unit, 5/81st had 105 mm M102A1s. You should have heard the wailing when the Brigade was re-organized as a Mech Bde and everyone was taken off jump status!!!

Tom
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Posted: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 - 06:44 AM UTC

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One odd fact. When I got to Germany in Oct of 1972, the 8th IDs 1st Brigade was Airborne, consisting of 1st, 2nd and 3rd Bns of the 509th Parachute Infantry Regiment, and their DS unit, 5/81st had 105 mm M102A1s. You should have heard the wailing when the Brigade was re-organized as a Mech Bde and everyone was taken off jump status!!!

Tom


Right !! When I arrived in country in 1970, one of my close buds was in 1/509 & he spent all sorts of time ragging on me as a tready. He had left before re-org but switched to whining when it happened ....

John
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Posted: Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 12:20 AM UTC

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He had left before re-org but switched to whining when it happened ....

John


The summer immediately after it happened, all of 8th DivArty was in Graf for our ATTs. All of our Bn Officers were sitting at one table in the O Club and the (now) Mech guys from the 81st FA were sitting at an adjacent table. We had the waitress take over a pitcher of milk to their table, complements of the Second Field Artillery, with a comment that now that they were no longer airborne, perhaps that was all they should be drinking.

To put it mildly, they were NOT amused. :-) :-) :-)

Tom
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Posted: Saturday, July 06, 2013 - 04:13 PM UTC
Did the USA use these at all in any conflict I think I know of one in Vietnam but not sure when I was a kid I seen them on the news in ODS but not sure by what country. Before I go spend money on a kit I wouldn't mind knowing which countries an what conflicts. I always wanted to build one.

Happy modeling
Bill
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Posted: Sunday, July 07, 2013 - 10:00 AM UTC
The M110 had a long service life with many nations. It was first fieled in 1963 and was used by the US Army and USMC through the early 1990s. It was the main, heavy artillery of the US military until it was replaced by the M270 MLRS in the early to mid-'90s. Some hung on in National Gurad units until the late '90s.

Here is a list of user nations:

Belgian Army: 11 M110A2 between 1972 and 1993.
Egyptian Army: 144 M110A2 as aid in 1996.
German Army: M110A2 until 1993.
Greek Army: 145 M110A2 to be scrapped.
Islamic Republic of Iran Army.
Israeli Army: 36 M110.
Japan Ground Self-Defense Force: 91 M110A2.
Jordanian Armed Forces: M110A2.
Republic of Korea Army: M110 until 2008.
Moroccan Army: M110A2.
Pakistan Army: 60 in service as of 2010.
Royal Bahraini Army: 13 M110A2 from Netherlands delivered in 1994, 5 M110A2 from US delivered in 1996.
Royal Netherlands Army M110A1 and M110A2, replaced by the M109 in the 1990s
Spanish Army: 64 M110A2, deployed in divisional fire support regiments until 2009.
Republic of China Army: 60 M110A2.
Turkish Army: currently phasing out 219 M110A2 in favor of T-155 Fırtına
British Army: M110A2 firing high explosive and nuclear shells only. (The FV433 Abbot SPG, the M109A2, and the M110A1 were replaced by the AS-90 in the early-mid-1990s.) Used in combat in Operation Granby/Gulf War.
US Army & United States Marine Corps.
Army of the Republic of Vietnam.
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Posted: Sunday, July 07, 2013 - 07:35 PM UTC

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No way the MLRS is a better weapon than the 8"...while it may be somewhat more versitile, I loved the precision of the 8". (I was a FO) MLRS just makes too big of a mess...good for large scale warfare, useless in precision strikes on todays battlefield.


Sorry, have to disagree. The new, Guided MLRS Rockets being used in OIF can hit within 7-10 inches of the target grid every time. Comes in an HE warhead too. It is amazing what kind of precision and accuracy it has. Blows away the old 8".


the old short tubed howitzer setting on hard packed clay and with the spade dug in well, will repeat extremely well. Not 7" of course, but probably three feet or less at 7 miles. In it's time it was known as the most accurate arty piece in the U.S. inventory. The main advantage the MLRS has is that it can cover the box in a rapid fashion, while the M110 was rather slow at it. In otherwords an 8" round that can do honest to God zone sweeps! I also see a couple other advantages over the M110 that are rather significant.
gary
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Posted: Sunday, July 07, 2013 - 07:39 PM UTC

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Gino, thanks that's what I suspected .... If I'm not mistaken, the GS Bn in 3AD had the earlier M110/A1 in the early 70's ... I never supported them so I'm not sure ...

John


John, I'm not certain, but I believe that it was still the M110. I was in a DS unit in the 8th ID (the other V Corps Division at the time) and I seem to recall that 3/16 which was our GS unit had M110s and not A1s. I do know for certain that when I arrived, two of the three DS units, mine, 1/2nd FA, and 1/83rd had M109 short tubes and switched to the M109A1 long tube in 1973 and at the same time we also went from plain OD to the original 7th Army 4 color pattern paint. I don't recall the 8" guys saying they had A1s.

One odd fact. When I got to Germany in Oct of 1972, the 8th IDs 1st Brigade was Airborne, consisting of 1st, 2nd and 3rd Bns of the 509th Parachute Infantry Regiment, and their DS unit, 5/81st had 105 mm M102A1s. You should have heard the wailing when the Brigade was re-organized as a Mech Bde and everyone was taken off jump status!!!

Tom


I was in the 3rd of the 16th, and they transitioned into some kind of rocket artillery when they returned to the states (maybe the MLRS). We used M1a1's, and came out of Ft. Bragg.
gary
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Posted: Sunday, July 07, 2013 - 07:44 PM UTC

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Did the USA use these at all in any conflict I think I know of one in Vietnam but not sure when I was a kid I seen them on the news in ODS but not sure by what country. Before I go spend money on a kit I wouldn't mind knowing which countries an what conflicts. I always wanted to build one.

Happy modeling
Bill


The 3rd of the 18th was all over I-Corps, and used M107's and M110's. There were at least two other battalions as well. Plus the Marines had Army units attached to them that used M110/M107's as well
gary
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Posted: Sunday, July 07, 2013 - 07:47 PM UTC

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The M110 had a long service life with many nations. It was first fieled in 1963 and was used by the US Army and USMC through the early 1990s. It was the main, heavy artillery of the US military until it was replaced by the M270 MLRS in the early to mid-'90s. Some hung on in National Gurad units until the late '90s.

Here is a list of user nations:

Belgian Army: 11 M110A2 between 1972 and 1993.
Egyptian Army: 144 M110A2 as aid in 1996.
German Army: M110A2 until 1993.
Greek Army: 145 M110A2 to be scrapped.
Islamic Republic of Iran Army.
Israeli Army: 36 M110.
Japan Ground Self-Defense Force: 91 M110A2.
Jordanian Armed Forces: M110A2.
Republic of Korea Army: M110 until 2008.
Moroccan Army: M110A2.
Pakistan Army: 60 in service as of 2010.
Royal Bahraini Army: 13 M110A2 from Netherlands delivered in 1994, 5 M110A2 from US delivered in 1996.
Royal Netherlands Army M110A1 and M110A2, replaced by the M109 in the 1990s
Spanish Army: 64 M110A2, deployed in divisional fire support regiments until 2009.
Republic of China Army: 60 M110A2.
Turkish Army: currently phasing out 219 M110A2 in favor of T-155 Fırtına
British Army: M110A2 firing high explosive and nuclear shells only. (The FV433 Abbot SPG, the M109A2, and the M110A1 were replaced by the AS-90 in the early-mid-1990s.) Used in combat in Operation Granby/Gulf War.
US Army & United States Marine Corps.
Army of the Republic of Vietnam.


Can't remember who made the M110/M107 platform for the military (Stewart & Stevenson?). Anyway they did a brass model of an M107 in what looked like 1/6th scale! Hate to think how much it cost!
gary
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