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Contest Update : Rebuild Lonely Christmas
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Posted: Monday, December 30, 2002 - 05:41 AM UTC
Friends,

After nuking my old dio, it is now time to show you the current status of the contest dio again. Far from finished, but at least I'm moving formward again.

what's changed so far "

- spare roof plates added
- coloured the grass a bit brownish
- coloured the shed yellowish / greyish
- a bit higher grass next to the shed
- added a beautiful barrel...thanks again General Failure !!!

All crytics are welcome again....but beware..... #:-)

Old Shed before the Nuking


The Nuking


Current status
Front

Rear

Side

Top

What do you think of it so far ?
basturk
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Posted: Monday, December 30, 2002 - 06:07 AM UTC
Nice job! Looks better than the pre nuked ( which isnt bad in the first place!)............ More details this time round. I especially like the little man made dirt trail outside the door.
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Posted: Monday, December 30, 2002 - 06:19 AM UTC
Very nice. I like the construction. I just noticed the background of white trees. Are you planning on lettting it snow? If so I would first tint the grass either a darker shade of green or brown, more of a fall color. Then add the snow. If you go with a heavy snow you wont even see it so I may be 'blowing smoke'
Good rebuild!
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Posted: Monday, December 30, 2002 - 06:21 AM UTC
Ok, Ok, I did not think it would be possible after the last one, but Danny this dio is a going to be a little masterpiece :-)

It looks awesome, but may I give one suggestion? why not punching a hole or 2 in the roof? those old steel roofs rusted right thru and that can enhance even more the feeling of cold, wet, hostile

Just my 2 cents, but like I said, looks great!!!
#:-)
Eagle
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Posted: Monday, December 30, 2002 - 06:32 AM UTC

Quoted Text

why not punching a hole or 2 in the roof?



Hhhhmmm sounds good.....I still got a nuke or two left..... #:-)

Without fun this time....those holes really sound good....I just might have a go at it... First I've got to finish some other things....deadline in less then two weeks....
Eagle
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Posted: Monday, December 30, 2002 - 06:37 AM UTC
Slodder,

the grass is already yellowish / brownish. It's got the colour of the wintergrass we have over here, but it's very hard to see on the pics. Like you said..there's gonna be snow and after that, you won't see any of the grass I fear....
FAUST
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Posted: Monday, December 30, 2002 - 10:22 AM UTC
Danny

What can I say
The shed rose as a phoenix from the old ashes of the nuked shed and became even prettier than the first one.
You have done a nice job man. The addition of the barrel on the left side of the shed and the spare roofplate on the right.
Also the footpath to the door is very convincing. The idea of Ronny (the holes in the roofplates) is also very good and will only make it better.
If I may put an idea in..... You probably had thought about this much earlier than I came up with it but..... You might consider to add straw or hay on the floor of your shed. I`ve seen about hundred of those sheds on holidays and earlier jobs and in Most of those sheds is hay/straw laying on the floors (doesn`t matter if it`s a stone floor or concrete or whatever)
but it tells a bit more about the shed itself maybe you could even put in some "Stro-balen"
(don`t know the english word for that) two or so will be enough like the farmer that owns the shed is using it for storage

This were my two cents think of it

Anyway looks good man what`s the weather forecast for the following days?? :-) :-)

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Posted: Monday, December 30, 2002 - 12:28 PM UTC
VERY NICE EAGLE - CONGRATS

ROBERTO
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Posted: Monday, December 30, 2002 - 12:34 PM UTC
Wow!! What a great improvement Eagle!!
GeneralFailure
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Posted: Monday, December 30, 2002 - 01:24 PM UTC
You seem to get the hang of it, Danny ! I like the landscaping. Not the dull flat grassy plain outside, but just enough hi's and lows to make it look right.
I like Robert's idea to put some straw on the ground. Problem may be: how to make nice looking straw on size. I think hair would look too much like hair in the end : even when painted. There must be vegetal stuff that does the trick though. Maybe the bristles of a broom ?
looks REALLY great !

Funny, I've got a barrel just like that one ! Glad to see the mailman delivered at last. Maybe it IS a bit oversized... ?

Jan
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Posted: Monday, December 30, 2002 - 10:23 PM UTC
Hey Danny,

I went shopping today (wife sent me for the grocery’s ) and I realized that in my neiberhood there is a shed similar to yours.

I went and took a look (sorry no camera at hand) and maybe here is another idea:

the shed also has a steel roof which is very rusted and on that roof there is ...... moss!!!, even is you cover it with a light snow coating you would see the structure of it.

Just a idea
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Posted: Monday, December 30, 2002 - 10:31 PM UTC
Thats a mighty fine idea Ronny,

I'll take care of that right away. I presume that moss is in the lower parts of the steel roof ?!

Danny
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Posted: Monday, December 30, 2002 - 11:01 PM UTC
I almost forgot, when you apply the moss keep it more to the sun/rain side of the roof (see picture)

Make sence??

Eagle
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Posted: Monday, December 30, 2002 - 11:22 PM UTC
Ronny,

I've been trying this moss on a piece of scrap.... It doesn't seem to work. These lower parts of the roofplates are so small.... The only thing that's small enough is sand.... and when weathering that it looks like.....SAND in stead of moss..... have to think at this again before putting this into live action on my roof....
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Posted: Monday, December 30, 2002 - 11:58 PM UTC
nie i think you should giv th moss another try i think it will look nice. stug
Roadkill
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Posted: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 - 12:37 AM UTC
Ok Danny, don't call me crazy, but I tried this just now:

I had some grass foil (not the right word: ik bedoel Grasmat) over from my kids train landscape and I took a razorblade and scraped it off.

The resulting grass is much smaller then normally sold static grass, and you could even put it thru a foodproccesor (ask the wife!!!!) for chopping it even smaller.

the grass I have now is very small (DON'T BREATH TO HARD), and maybe you can use this??


Just a idea
Eagle
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Posted: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 - 12:12 PM UTC
Ronny,

I'll have a go at this, but I'm not too sure I like the result, specially since the roof is gonna be covered with snow......it feels such a waste....

I'll make another attempt at it..... Let you know how it works out.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 - 02:11 AM UTC
I just finished building a destroyed house (corner only) as a practice piece. I wanted to add a little moss to the exterior "plaster covered" wall to give it an aged appearance. What I ended up using was a mixture of baking powder,water,and a litl dark green craft paint for a base coler for the moss. I mixed it till it was a thick mixture(all clumpy) and applied it to the wall using an old brush.It left a great texture anda little dry brushing in different shades of green made a convincing mossy wall. It's easy,cheap, and messy. All the things a modeler loves. :-)
GeneralFailure
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Posted: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 - 03:18 AM UTC
I have mixed feelings about htis moss. If well done, it will look magnificent. I only want to tell you I spent cutting nice little wood shingles for my tree hut roof, cutting wood nerves in them and carefully placing them. Then I added the snow and I though : "this looks good, but I've spent hours on work that is not visible now. If you add snow : stick to the things that will be visible after snowfall. My 2 €cts
Jan
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Posted: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 - 03:38 AM UTC
Danny,

First Happy New year to all

Second, If you are not confinced about the moss, then don't do it, your dio will look great even whitout it, it is like you said when you put snow on it, than you won't see it again. It just depends on how far that you want to go (same principle like detailing armor, I never (?) will go that far as others.

Just have fun

#:-)
FAUST
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Posted: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 - 03:59 AM UTC
Danny

for the straw/hay question I think you can use the hard haired brushes wich you can find in the Discount-racks of your local DIY shop. Just cut them down the same as you should do with the long grass but then lay them around
And for "Strobalen" (sorry english speaking people I still don`t know the english word for that) pick a piece of foam, cut it the right size and stick the short brush particles on it.
then take some sewing thread an tie two strings on the width side of it and one over the length on the other side

my two cents


Eagle
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Posted: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 - 06:19 AM UTC
Guys,

I decided NOT to do the moss.... I'm running out of time, and I can't afford major mistakes at this point in time. Besides all the efforts will be hidden under the snow in for sure.

On the other hand I WILL attempt the moss thing on spare piece of steel roof. This for future use when I get it right.

Thanks for all the input though. The tips that where given, are a big help in this attempt !
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Posted: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 - 09:35 AM UTC
Danny,
I thought you went mad when you demolished the previous cabin. It´s good to see the next one turned out even better! It looks like it has no straight corners and that makes it alive. Don´t worry about the smallest detailing of the set, your snow (whatever it is you will use) will cover it up for sure.
I can´t wait to see it snowed! With my own entry I liked it very much without snow and I even thought about skipping the snow part of the build. I did it anyway and the result was fine as the snow added nice contrast to the scene. Your cabin looks so good that it will look excellent with snow! (:-)
Of course, if you want some MORE challenge and want to show some of that grass of yours, you can always make it half snowy like some has melted away and it became frosty again...some heavier clups of snow and very thin frost all over the scene...

Keep it up!

Toni

PS. Frost does wonderful things on a window screen...
Matrix
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Posted: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 - 12:49 PM UTC
Looks great! I really like the dirt path to the door.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 - 12:55 PM UTC
Hi Danny. I think you were quite mad to destroy your first effort. But in hindsight the shed and the scene look really convincing ............. maybe it was worth it. If you roof was very rusty... would moss grow on rust? From my memory whenever I saw old roofs the moss grew on the parts still with paint or or not rusted. The rusted parts were uncovered! Not 100% on this but somebody may be able to answer properly. If you do decide to go for some moss I think a little thickened paint with talcom powder as somebody else suggested would be the best. When its almost dry, stab it with a hard bristled brush.
Hey Faust I think what you are looking for is "bales of straw" (Strobalen).
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