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Humvee M998 cargo from 1991 - more questions
RobH
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Posted: Monday, April 17, 2006 - 07:32 PM UTC
following on from my previous question:

humvee question

I have some more, now that the Calibre set has turned up (Thanks Hannants, only 1 1/2 week delivery time!) for my Tamiya Humvee

1/ Early wheels - whats the best set - have some old Verlinden ones, but not sure - go with the kit ones?

2/ Brush Guard/Roo bar at the front; where they standard design in 1991 and is the one in the kit useable for 1991?

3/ A Cargo carrier used to carry troops, rucksacks on the sides of the vehicle etc - what else might be carried in the cargo area - ammo cans, water, MREs? Sandbagged? (seen some 5ton truck from ODS with sandbags in thecargo bed)

Ideas and thoughts, folks, please





cheers

Rob
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Posted: Monday, April 17, 2006 - 07:39 PM UTC
In 91, the brush guards varied. Some were made specifically for the HMMWV (of various designs as well), others were modified from the ones that were available on the old CUCVs (Chevy Blazers & pickups).

Most 2-door HMMWVs belonged to staff personnel, NCOs and other key personnel and normally not assigned as a troop carrier. They usually had a two person crew and would carry their rucksacks and duffle bags, MREs, water cans (rarely fuel or oil 5 gal. cans), a couple of cots, sleeping mats, a cooler, couple of cardboard boxes carrying sundry supplies, camouflage net set (bag of poles and flat bag for the nets), perhaps a small hex tent.
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Posted: Monday, April 17, 2006 - 08:02 PM UTC
Rob hit the nail on the head!

As for the wheels, either the kit ones or the Verlinden ones work fine, but I would go with the Verlinden ones. The rims look more detailed and well defined.
RobH
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Posted: Monday, April 17, 2006 - 08:10 PM UTC
Thanks guys - this one is taken from a picture with a pintle mounted M60 and at least 4 rucksacs on the brush guard and wooden sides - the crew are in NBC kit + PASGT body armor.
There is gear stowed on the cab roof in the picture but it's not on a frame so I assume it's not a prime mover.

I like the picture because there's some good weathering to be done.
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Posted: Monday, April 17, 2006 - 08:29 PM UTC

Quoted Text

1/ Early wheels - whats the best set - have some old Verlinden ones, but not sure - go with the kit ones?



Maybe this review on PMMS can help you to make up your mind ...
Humvee Wheels

HTH
Frenchy
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Posted: Monday, April 17, 2006 - 08:41 PM UTC
Cheers Frenchy - forgot the review included the early tires, had it in my mind it was for the late ones only.

So, it's the kit ones or the verlinden ones.....
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Posted: Monday, April 17, 2006 - 08:50 PM UTC
You also have this set as a choice. It is Calibre 35's #35027 HMMWV Suspinsion and Weighted Wheels

RobH
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Posted: Monday, April 17, 2006 - 08:58 PM UTC
Darn you Pete!!!! Just making it harder for me!!!! :-) :-) :-)

I'd used the Verlinden wheels on an old Italeri Humvee I never quite completed back in 1993:
Epi
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Posted: Monday, April 17, 2006 - 09:08 PM UTC
Verlindens where the only ones I was using up intill the Tamiya ones, and now you have all these Aggressive Pattern, Super Swamper, and so on, style tires out there.

Now I haven't seen the Calibre myself, but the weighted look and the seperate springs look appealing.

Nice looking figures! where did they come from, converted from what?
RobH
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Posted: Monday, April 17, 2006 - 11:02 PM UTC
The calibre set does look nice, but the chassis is all assembled now......

cheers for the comments on the figures. They are hornet heads, tamiya helmets, boots; the rest is duro/kneadatite sculpting. What I intend to do for this M998.
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Posted: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 09:43 AM UTC
Just wanted to add my 2 cents. During that time frame (1991) I was with the 7 Infantry Division (Light), XVIII Ariborne Corps. We started to get HMMWV back in 86. 1. Most of our did not have bush guards.
2. Most of the 2 doors with the Combat brigades belong to the Infantry Bn's Support Plt. I know in the 105mm FA Bn's the guns had a 2 door to tow the 105mm and the gun's crew.
3. Since the division's statement required that all of the combat bn were self sufficent for 72 hrs in combat, all of our HMMWV 2/4 door and Hard Tops were equiped with 1 to 2 5 gal of fuel and water.
RobH
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Posted: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 12:38 PM UTC
Thanks Edward, excellent information! All very useful!


:-) :-)
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