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Dioramas: Vietnam
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Coconut palms and Vietnam dio test
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Posted: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 05:06 AM UTC
What happened to the dio of the commandos climbing a cliff attacking VCs guarding a bridge?
csago
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Posted: Thursday, May 11, 2006 - 01:10 AM UTC

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What happened to the dio of the commandos climbing a cliff attacking VCs guarding a bridge?



Well, that dio is now in the second place of the list; I worked in it because I haven´t a box of Dragon NVA Sappers; now I finished the ss cavalry diorama, I have a new box of NVA sappers, so I´m working in this Oh-6 and NVA soldiers diorama.

Is glad to see that some people remember the things I´m making... Thank you very much Alan.

Best regards.
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Posted: Thursday, May 11, 2006 - 02:04 AM UTC
looks great
i'd also like to know your technique for the palms and the source of the nva figures.
csago
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Posted: Thursday, May 11, 2006 - 03:17 AM UTC

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looks great
i'd also like to know your technique for the palms and the source of the nva figures.



As I said before, the branches are made with natural ficus benjamina leaves, cut to side, let aside for drying for 2-4 hours and painted with Vallejo acrilics for a basic paint.

And the NVA figures are from Dragon/DML "NVA Sappers" kit, with some changes of legs, bodies and arms.

Cheers.
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Posted: Saturday, February 23, 2008 - 10:01 AM UTC
First I want to say that the ART part of your project is amazing..... those are beautiful palms..and figures also.... I do think the other suggestions having to do with 'natural' are correct.... they just never look as pretty as yours do in the wild... even in towns where people are tending them they can't look that pretty because they are just a messy looking tree.... always having some fronds hanging down about to come off or dead and still attached and that fuzzy stuff on them.

Now to the general layout or concept.

I am not going to pretend to be an expert on the use of a Loach in this type of situation... However, I did spend four years as an Army Aviator with 1969 in Viet Nam flying a UH_1H slick. I flew in I Corp with C/158/ 101st out of Camp Evans and near Saigon out of BearCat with the 240 th AHC.. Greyhounds...

The general situation does not feel right. As you can see in the picture of a palm plantation the ground is relatively clean. This does not normally give good cover to infantry and they try to avoid being exposed... especially since we owned the air there. The L,O in Loach stands for Light Observation .... not something you would stick out in the open at low altitude flying slow... and sure would not be hovering around 30 foot palms out in the open like that...

Normally a Loach would be half of a Hunter-Killer team... flying around low near Nippa palms ( or at least that is what we refered to them as then ).... a very good source of cover ... when they found something they ( if they were smart ) would throw a smoke grenade and leave as fast as they could... at which time the Killer , having been circling above .... a UH -1G Cobra would open up with minigun and 2.75 inch rockets in a dive towards the position. Your Loach is exposed to even sniper fire from hundreds of yards away in that position and if he needs to autorotate due to engine failure he is above the height from which he can expect a reasonable conclusion to the event .
I have been required to hover above triple canopy to throw out supplies in the mountains... but would never get that close to a tree out in the open.... or that high and slow ... a helicopter needs to be higher or faster .... he is completely out of the recovery envelope if anything happens... particularly since that is a fully articulated blade system which stores little energy compared to the semi rigid Huey configuration... which is important in giving you time to put the collective down to keep what blade speed you have.

So to me both the flight and tactical characteristics of the scene do not feel right....
Of course most people will not know any of that stuff and just appreciate your beautiful art work..
I am just mentioning this in case you wanted to research it before you get too far into the project.
Regards,
Greyhound 23 blue flight


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