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Modern camouflage netting-how?
slynch1701
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Posted: Sunday, June 04, 2006 - 03:14 PM UTC
does anyone know how to or can point me to a way to make modern camouflage netting. I am thinking of the kind used by the German army and I think the US uses something similar. I apears to be normal netting but with differnet colored plastic woven through it.

My guess is I would use cheese cloth or gauze, make the pattern fo the plastic with maybe electrical tape or some kind of similar plastic like material and weave it through.

Any better ideas are appreciated.

Thanks,

Sean
RoelGeutjens
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Posted: Sunday, June 04, 2006 - 03:53 PM UTC
Hey Sean

The art camouflage is a nice thing to model I think. You can see many different ways of camouflage. Eg: Use of nets, use of bushes and trees, use of some kind of Ghillie for a vehicle..... The choice is yours. I made a german marder 1A3 with a ghillie on it by viewing many ref pics. You can view this vehicle on my website.
A how to do is not yet included on the tips and tricks page Should do that in the coming days!! But here is a small how to.

Normal camo nets:
I used bandage to start with. I made a mix of water and woodglue 1/1. This should look like thick milk. Put the bandage in this mix. Then lay it on your vehicle the way you want it. After you have layed the bandage on your vehicle I used parsley from my mom to sprinkle on the wet bandage. You can put some woodglue mix on the parsley with a brush to make it stick real good. When this is dry you can paint a camo on it.

Ghillie nets
First make a normal net on your vehicle.
The ghillie I made was made with little rectangular pieces of bandage which were coloured dark green and sand. Put them in you milk mix and stick on the camonet on your vehicle. It's very easy and simple to do.

If you have questions please ask!!!

Good luck Roel
Erik67
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Posted: Sunday, June 04, 2006 - 04:06 PM UTC
I make my nets in much the same way as Roel, but instead of parsley I use oregano. First I soak bandages (or something thinner) in diluted white glue, form it on the vehicle, sprinkle with oregano and let dry for a day. Be careful when you put the wet net on your vehicle. White glue will stain your paintwork.
Then I paint the dry net with several brown green and black colors and finish off with a drybrush of various green and buff.

Here is the result


Erik
slynch1701
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Posted: Monday, June 05, 2006 - 02:12 AM UTC
Thanks for your responses. They will be helpful.

Sean
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Posted: Monday, June 05, 2006 - 02:53 AM UTC
You could also put some Seran Wrap over the model before you lay the glue soaked netting down. When its dry, remove it(it wont stick to the wrap) and paint it.
Manchu34
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Posted: Monday, June 05, 2006 - 09:28 AM UTC
I've done the same as Roel and Tapper suggest.ed. I use medical gauze soaked in 50/50 water white glue. However, I prefer Italian Season, due to the differant sizes. Once it dries, I paint it.

Last time I did it was for the trench/foxhole campaign. In my case I used plastic (seran) wrap since, I was doing a dug in M151A2 jeep.

Here's an image of my finished work

jazza
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Posted: Monday, June 05, 2006 - 10:37 AM UTC
There are some great tips on this thread guys. I had asked this question about a week back and got similar responses however this one somehow "clicked" for me.

Being the idiot that i am, i just couldnt make out what a medical gauze was.

Am off to the pharmacist to get me a bandage! First time im buying that with no injuries......TOUCH WOOD!!
woodstock74
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Posted: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 - 11:55 AM UTC
Apologies for digging up a 5 year old thread, but I'm wanting to understanding this technique for making camo netting:

The netting is placed on the already painted model? If I use something like saran wrap to protect the model how easy is it to remove the saran wrap? And then I paint the now "set" netting while it's on the model?
didgeboy
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Posted: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 - 12:10 PM UTC
I have never tried this, but I imagine that the saran wrap(plastic film) just allows you to place the netting on your surface and have it conform to the contours without actually touching the painted surface. I would assume that you just wait for it to dry, lift the netting remove the plastic film and viola! Cheers.
woodstock74
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Posted: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 - 12:56 PM UTC
I guess I was uncertain as to how easy it would be to lift the netting without messing it up once it had set..
didgeboy
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Posted: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 - 05:56 PM UTC
I was thinking the same thing. I would venture to say use the kiddiest kid gloves on it. When you do it, post pics for the rest of us to see how to. Cheers.
lespauljames
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Posted: Thursday, April 14, 2011 - 06:19 AM UTC
what i would do , is set down some cling film, and let it set on the cling film, making it easier for you to remove and modify before final application.
so lay cling film on the model, then the wet gauze. then dry, remove paint e,t,c
tankmodeler
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Posted: Thursday, April 14, 2011 - 06:21 AM UTC
I agree, be careful.

A couple things to watch out for:
- as the netting dries, it will shrink. It is likely to start to pull the Saran Wrap off the model & "scrunch" it up underneath, leaving gaps and shape changes you don't want in the end.
- as you place the wet netting, do not, under any circumstances, jam the netting & Saran Wrap under folds & undercuts on the surface of the model. That is a sure-fire way to either rip off surface detail that becomes embedded in the dry netting or physically lock the netting & Saran Wrap into place on your model making it impossible to get the Wrap off without damaging the model.

I would be far more inclined to place the wet netting on the painted model and then paint the netting in place after it dries. Any "splooges" from the white glue can be wiped up when wet and then concealed by weathering after it's all dry.

Just sayin'...

:)

Paul
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Posted: Thursday, April 14, 2011 - 08:24 PM UTC
try this link to jasons trial of cammo netting

https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/173265&page=1
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