,im new to military modeling,but i have been scratchbuilding on GUNDAM kits for some time.anyway,what scale/type of tank would you suggest for my first one?
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Wildcat
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Posted: Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 01:10 PM UTC
hey everyone ,
im new to military modeling,but i have been scratchbuilding on GUNDAM kits for some time.anyway,what scale/type of tank would you suggest for my first one?
,im new to military modeling,but i have been scratchbuilding on GUNDAM kits for some time.anyway,what scale/type of tank would you suggest for my first one?
stugiiif
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Posted: Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 01:24 PM UTC
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well lets see anything new from tamiya will be nice, their Marder III series is nice and the Wespe is a good build!!!!! all in 1/35th. Also tamiya's tiger I e's are nice builds as well, the king tigers are nice too!!!!!!!! for the Panther family i recomend any of the new DML panthers (D, early A, late A) and for a G panther tamiya and Dml make nice Kits of both......hope it helps for a list of good builds, i got a lot more to recommend but Jim will shoot me If i rant again hehehehehe stug
well lets see anything new from tamiya will be nice, their Marder III series is nice and the Wespe is a good build!!!!! all in 1/35th. Also tamiya's tiger I e's are nice builds as well, the king tigers are nice too!!!!!!!! for the Panther family i recomend any of the new DML panthers (D, early A, late A) and for a G panther tamiya and Dml make nice Kits of both......hope it helps for a list of good builds, i got a lot more to recommend but Jim will shoot me If i rant again hehehehehe stug
SS-74
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Posted: Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 01:26 PM UTC
Since you had done some scratchbuilding in Gundams, so modelling won't be new to new. In this case I think any Tamiya later offer or DML new offer will be okay for you. They have tons of German tanks.
If individual link is not what you like to do for the first tank. Then Tamiya is definitely the way to go. The latest marder III M is very nice. And if you don't want to paint an open top AFV for your first trial. Their Pz III Ausf M is also very nice. HTH.
If individual link is not what you like to do for the first tank. Then Tamiya is definitely the way to go. The latest marder III M is very nice. And if you don't want to paint an open top AFV for your first trial. Their Pz III Ausf M is also very nice. HTH.
stugiiif
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Posted: Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 01:30 PM UTC
hehehehe, What's wrong with open top tanks dave, they are the most fun to build!!!!!!!!!!!!! good hunting stug
blah
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Posted: Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 01:31 PM UTC
hanomags!!
SS-74
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Posted: Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 01:41 PM UTC
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hehehehe, What's wrong with open top tanks dave, they are the most fun to build!!!!!!!!!!!!! good hunting stug
Hi Stug..... nothing wrong with open top, and you know my most favourite is Der NASHORN!!!! But for his first trial he might find the painting of interior, you know.....UHHHH!!!!!...... I know I do sometimes.... #:-)
63chevyvette
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Posted: Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 01:50 PM UTC
hey man,
I am new to it also, I started maybe a month ago. I would suggest 1/35 scale. I read that you used to do gundam modals. If you could send me any pics of them that would be great because I got a buddy who does gundams but needs more ideas for add ons and stuff. If you could send to [email protected]. Thankz and Good luck in Armor.
I am new to it also, I started maybe a month ago. I would suggest 1/35 scale. I read that you used to do gundam modals. If you could send me any pics of them that would be great because I got a buddy who does gundams but needs more ideas for add ons and stuff. If you could send to [email protected]. Thankz and Good luck in Armor.
sgtsauer
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Posted: Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 02:31 PM UTC
I would recommend a German Stug IIIG or Panzer IIIL. Both kits are 1/35th scale Tamiya and are a couple of my favorites.
yagdpanzer
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Posted: Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 03:32 PM UTC
Try The Tamiya Pz111, Ausf. L or the Tamiya Pz1V, Ausf H.
Both are great kits.
Both are great kits.
hworth18
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Posted: Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 03:40 PM UTC
The Tamiya 1/35 King Tiger has got my vote as the "smoothest" kit I have built so far. That thing was a dream to build. :-)
Folgore
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Posted: Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 05:48 PM UTC
I am currently building the Tamiya StuGIIIG and I think it would be an excellent kit to start with. The fit is absolutely flawless, it's not too big, and it comes with some nice figures. On the other hand, photoetch grilles are pretty well a must for it. If you want to go totally out-of-the-box for your first one, the Tamiya Marder IIIs are excellent on their own. The King Tigers include mesh you can use to make your own grilles as well.
Nic
Nic
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Posted: Friday, January 24, 2003 - 01:53 AM UTC
I would go with the 1/35th suggestions. Plenty of detail and if your skills are decent, try the newer Tamiya kits. They are engineered along the lines of Gundam kits (fall into place). As to which tank, take a look at the various Panther, Tiger, PzIII and PzIV kits. One will catch your eye more than the others.
SGT_Fubar
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Posted: Friday, January 24, 2003 - 04:15 AM UTC
1/35 is the way to go just by the huge numbers of kits out there. Most builders tend to stick to one scale. And 1/35 gives you hundreds of variations of kits. I would have to say the Tamiya kits are a good place to start. Nothing can put you off a hobby like trying something new and having a sucky kit. Tamiya is consistantly well put together if nothing else. When I started out I ran into some crappy kits and it really put me off for a while but as skills progressed now I can hide or fix just about any problems that pop up.
JimF
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Posted: Friday, January 24, 2003 - 05:43 AM UTC
I would also recommend the Tamiya Stug III G; it goes together well, looks good, but I would go ahead and get the grill set for it before starting construction. I also have a Dragon Stug III F in progress, and it's a good kit as well
modelnut4
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Posted: Friday, January 24, 2003 - 06:19 AM UTC
A neophyte treadhead, how cool, try some of the older kits that have a few less of the nifty features and enjoy the basics. Since you already have the kitbashing technique already down, do lots and lots of research and get it down on paper before you start. Gives you a direction to go for and sort of helps keep things on track. I love my photo etched and resin and all the other media that us tank nuts love to wallow in, for a first timer, I'd stick to the basic kit and build it as good as you can get and once you see how they go together and all the little nuances of the breed, then you can turn into one of the crazed and perfectionist pigs that we all know and love. Lord knows, I've turned enough $30 kits into $200 ones just by staying too long at the accessories counter much to the delight of the store owner.
Okay I've been on the soapbox too long already, I'm gonna crawl back in the dark some more and contemplate my Marder II.
Good luck, look forward to seeing your stuff in the Rivet Review Board.
Okay I've been on the soapbox too long already, I'm gonna crawl back in the dark some more and contemplate my Marder II.
Good luck, look forward to seeing your stuff in the Rivet Review Board.
SS-74
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Posted: Friday, January 24, 2003 - 06:24 AM UTC
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A neophyte treadhead, how cool, try some of the older kits that have a few less of the nifty features and enjoy the basics. Since you already have the kitbashing technique already down, do lots and lots of research and get it down on paper before you start. Gives you a direction to go for and sort of helps keep things on track. I love my photo etched and resin and all the other media that us tank nuts love to wallow in, for a first timer, I'd stick to the basic kit and build it as good as you can get and once you see how they go together and all the little nuances of the breed, then you can turn into one of the crazed and perfectionist pigs that we all know and love. Lord knows, I've turned enough $30 kits into $200 ones just by staying too long at the accessories counter much to the delight of the store owner.
Okay I've been on the soapbox too long already, I'm gonna crawl back in the dark some more and contemplate my Marder II.
Good luck, look forward to seeing your stuff in the Rivet Review Board.
Hehe Jay, you crazy one. Just like me, I think we spend way too much time in a hobby shop that the owner really like us now.... hehe.....god good thing I am single.... #:-)
Hawkeye
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Posted: Friday, January 24, 2003 - 09:11 AM UTC
Spend too much time in the hobby shop????
You mean you guys don't live there???Damn i knew i was doing somethign wrong
As for kits to start with?I would recommend the Waspe,from Tamiya. It is an excellent OOB build and looks very nice when painted
Later
Hawkeye
You mean you guys don't live there???Damn i knew i was doing somethign wrong
As for kits to start with?I would recommend the Waspe,from Tamiya. It is an excellent OOB build and looks very nice when painted
Later
Hawkeye
keenan
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Posted: Friday, January 24, 2003 - 09:32 AM UTC
I guess I'm proabably in line with everyone else. A Tamiya Stug would be a good starter kit.
Keep hanging out here and we will be more than welcome to tell you how you should have done things... LOL Enjoy, and welcome aboard.
Keep hanging out here and we will be more than welcome to tell you how you should have done things... LOL Enjoy, and welcome aboard.
Grifter
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Posted: Friday, January 24, 2003 - 09:35 AM UTC
Like many of the others have said, the newer Tamiya kits are excellent ways to get into armor. My recent builds are the Marder III and the Wespe....both open top, which complicates painting, but very nice kits. They practically fall together and they have one piece track (it's a band that you join together at the end to make a loop). They also have two new Sherman kits that look very nice. Dragon/DML kits are very good, but they all have individual link track (you have to put the tracks together yourself). I would recommend their Hetzer family. If you don't mind the extra $20-30 you can replace the indiv. links from the kit with a set of links from Fruilmodellismo which are incredible and very easy to assemble. They are made of white-metal and make an awesome realistic sag after installation on the tank.
I can also recommend newer Italeri kits although I'm not fond of their semi-individual link-and-lenth track. The Italeri Puma is a good one, not really a tank, it's a six wheeled armored car and a good building kit as well.
I can also recommend newer Italeri kits although I'm not fond of their semi-individual link-and-lenth track. The Italeri Puma is a good one, not really a tank, it's a six wheeled armored car and a good building kit as well.
Desert-Fox
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Posted: Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 03:24 AM UTC
Hi,
If you wanna keep scratchbuilding..then choose a cheap ,manufacturer and build into that.
There are alot of manufacturers out there that make treaded plates, handles, lifting hooks, wheels, guns, armour add-ons etc.
You would be better off to super detail a model first rather than to start from nothing...you may loose patience quickly.
If you wanna keep scratchbuilding..then choose a cheap ,manufacturer and build into that.
There are alot of manufacturers out there that make treaded plates, handles, lifting hooks, wheels, guns, armour add-ons etc.
You would be better off to super detail a model first rather than to start from nothing...you may loose patience quickly.
csch
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Posted: Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 05:35 AM UTC
I think that for the first model could be better one that comes with entire vynil tracks, and the ones from Tamiya are very good. I like Panthers they are simple to build, specially the running gear.
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