I am currently working on the Tamiya 1/16 German Infantryman in Winter Uniform. Painting the figure in the snow version and wanted to ask a question about the reversible uniform pattern.
I understand that the early versions were gray on one side and white on the outside-I wanted to portray that version however with the figure carrying an MP44 how likely would this be?
I searched the net and through the posts here but found no solid answer. What I belive though not certain is that the style of the uniform was first distributed in 1943 with white/gray linings then later provided with white/fall camuflage and other patterns.
I am cannot find however when did the MP44 was distributed to the troops. Any advise? Would the White/Gray with an MP44 be OK? Or should I go ahead and use a camuflage pattern for the visible inside lining?
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WWII German Uniform and MP44 question
Tommy_Guns
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Posted: Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 05:21 AM UTC
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Posted: Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 06:11 AM UTC
The MP44 was first issued as the MP43, in July 1943 ... that's according to Ian V Hogg and John Weeks' book 'Military Small Arms of the 20th Century'
By the looks of it your figure can hold an MP43, if that's what you want.
Jeff W.
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"In April 1944 the nomenclature was advanced-for some undetermined reason-to MP44, which was identical with the MP43...
By the looks of it your figure can hold an MP43, if that's what you want.
Jeff W.
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Posted: Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 09:19 AM UTC
The grey/ white reversible was used throughout the latter part of the war so the MP44 would not look out of place. Waffen SS were only issued camo reversible parkas from Dec 1943 onwards. Bearing in mind the Wehrmacht were poor relations the grey/white was used throughout the Ardennes as well as the tan reversibles.
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Posted: Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 06:38 PM UTC
Tommy, though you haven't specified whether you are painting an SS or Heer fig, I am assuming you mean the former. As Karl says, the SS Wintertarnanzeug was issued in winter '43/44, but it is not improbable to depict figs with older uniforms. I am sure not all 100% of troops got the new stuff.
The MP43 was later designated the StG44 after some modifications.
Please check out Historicus Forma as well if you are into large-scale figs. Nice friendly bunch
The MP43 was later designated the StG44 after some modifications.
Please check out Historicus Forma as well if you are into large-scale figs. Nice friendly bunch
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Posted: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 06:10 AM UTC
Thank you very much for your help. This did answer my questions.
I have not put any thought to the unit I may want to portray, at first I though Eastern Front but I may aim at Ardenne Offensive... figured to just stick'm in some snow and leave it at that... but now I may go further with the base and the figure.
Thank you very much for your help once again.
I have not put any thought to the unit I may want to portray, at first I though Eastern Front but I may aim at Ardenne Offensive... figured to just stick'm in some snow and leave it at that... but now I may go further with the base and the figure.
Thank you very much for your help once again.