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T-38 climbing out of water
Envar
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Posted: Monday, January 27, 2003 - 05:32 AM UTC
There have been many topics going on about scale water. My T-38 is now in the water phase. Some parts of the model are still unpainted and I havenīt applied the snow and ice yet. I will frame this vignette with balsa wood so the edges wonīt look so blown up when finished.
This is just an example of how the Woodland Scenics Realistic water works. You just pour it in there, max 3mm layer at time. Every layer has to cure for 24 hours.
I applied two 5mm layers within 24 hours because I was impatient. Thatīs why the water looks a bit misty in my case, normally it dries very clear. I liked the colour anyway, just like heavy freezing water. The product is quite air bubble free, those bubbles you see I made myself.

I will go for the cracked ice layer next when the water is dry, then heavy snow. After that Iīll finish the model and decide if I have to tint the surface of the water or not...








All comments are welcome!

Toni
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Posted: Monday, January 27, 2003 - 05:39 AM UTC
Very Nice - I love the 2nd photo. Great figure!
The water is very good too. I am going to be using that product in my next dio and look forward to it.

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Posted: Monday, January 27, 2003 - 06:18 AM UTC
Your water come out quite nicely. How easy it would it be to create waves and ripples using this product?
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Posted: Monday, January 27, 2003 - 06:24 AM UTC
Very nice little dio you got there Toni....Kit looks good and the figure is really nice....I think I'll try using that water on a project soon. What are you going to use for ice? Can't wait to see how this all turns out ...

Richard
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Posted: Monday, January 27, 2003 - 06:29 AM UTC
I know this is about water but... that figure looks great.. great face and nice jacket.. you did a good job on weathering black; the jacket has a slight shine just as the real leather..

I like what you did with the groundwork.. water looks good too. I'm wondering how you'll do cracked ice.. Keep my fingers crossed.

Good work Toni.

Mario M.
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Posted: Monday, January 27, 2003 - 07:02 AM UTC
Oh, THAT T-38! When I saw the title, I thought I was gonna see a supersonic trainer climbing out of a lake! #:-)

Really nice work with the figure as others have said. I love the way you've dirtied up and wethered the white paint job. Looks great!

Even though this is breaking ice water, you should try to get a wake and some splashing effect aft of the treads, as well as some water dripping off the tracks as they pull out of the water. I know, I know, easier said than done.
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Posted: Monday, January 27, 2003 - 07:40 AM UTC
Thanks for comments!

Marty:
when the acryl has settled a few hours itīs gel-like, very easy to create ripples and effects.

Maki,
I put a close-up pic of the commander just for you... Yes, the leather turned out really nice, probably because I didnīt think about it too much. I just painted it first with black acrylic tinted with brown, then highlighted raoughly with dark grey and finally washed all over it with thin black acrylic. Those Lifecolor acrylics are great! Face was painted with oils, figure is from Tamiya tank crew set with a Hornet resin head. This time I got the Finnish cockade right with the first try.

AJLaFleche:
Thanks, thatīs my first tank and I tried quite difficult paint scheme. Iīm not completely satisfied with it yet, but Iīll leave it for now and finish the other parts before. For the same reason I havenīt added the splashes over the wheels yet, I like to keep them open for a while. I tried the way to make dripping effects and it should be manageable with this product. Just pour some of that stuff in a cup and wait until itīs gel-like. Then just add tiny pieces of that on the wheels and tracks...

Yeah, I will need all crossed fingers when I proceed with the ice...Iīll try clear candle wax for the thin ice layer... I hope not to cover all the nice water...

Cheers,
Toni

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Posted: Monday, January 27, 2003 - 07:50 AM UTC
Just to give you a hint.. Miguel Jimenez has a nice dio on ML that could be of help here..

MIG

Just one of the images to show you what I mean..



Perhaps you could use this..

Mario M.
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Posted: Monday, January 27, 2003 - 09:00 AM UTC
Oh yeah, Maki I remember that! Awesome model.. maybe a bit too dirty... #:-)

I couldnīt wait any more and tried out the candle wax. The result was thin, crispy ice layer. I guess it will look great when I add the snow all over the place...




Toni
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Posted: Monday, January 27, 2003 - 09:04 AM UTC
Some awesome work Toni!!! Very impressive.
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Posted: Monday, January 27, 2003 - 10:19 AM UTC
Well Tony

Once again you show what a great modeler is inside you
Man great job on the Tank And I love the groundworks. The ice looks good too man

Keep us updated. I don`t want to miss anything of the snow. What`s the weatherforecast for the next couple of days??


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Posted: Monday, January 27, 2003 - 10:36 AM UTC
wow great work, very impressive

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Posted: Monday, January 27, 2003 - 10:50 AM UTC
excellent work. I really like the way the ice can out
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Posted: Monday, January 27, 2003 - 10:53 AM UTC
totally awesome work

The second pic blew my socks off, not only is the face on that figure awesome... but the paint chips and rust are so very convincing. Interested in sharing your secrets?

Looks good so far The water does look convencing also. Cant wait to see the finished product

Buy that man a brau
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Posted: Monday, January 27, 2003 - 10:54 AM UTC
Fantastic dio Envar. I have this kit from AER also and PE from a company called airwaves for it. I have put off building it for a while and this makes me want to start it now. What did you think of the build up? Any pointers? I think everything is great.. scene land and water, tank and figure, and the ice is brilliant. Excellent model and dio overall!
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Posted: Monday, January 27, 2003 - 11:07 AM UTC
Envar the ice effect is awesome...what are you going to use for snow... i like woodland scenics snow for the shaker, but next time i use it i'll use a sifter for powered sugar!!! that is awesome, nice effects again stug
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Posted: Monday, January 27, 2003 - 12:48 PM UTC
Jim must be doing something to site!! Great job on the ice as I have about 20 lbs of wax around here think I will try this any suggestions on the pour or anything? The ole lady use to make candles as why we have the wax. Really good
Toni
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Posted: Monday, January 27, 2003 - 02:17 PM UTC
Great work there. I was wondering how you got the ice to lood cracked there. I am going to try a dio similar to yours with the water and ice and all that. If you have any tips on doing that it would be most appreciated.
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Posted: Monday, January 27, 2003 - 07:05 PM UTC
Thanks all for compliments!
I had a busy night, results are seen here. I scratchbuilt headlights and weathered the model with some pastels and I like the faded look now. I sprayed hair spray over terrain and sprinkled food soda over that. Thatīs all for the snow. I added the balsa frames to cover the edges.
About the ice: I just took a small white candle and lit it. As soon as some parafin drops formed, I poured it over my precious water and quickly spread it around with a cocktail stick. Nothing else. I think it would have been also possible to make the ice layer separately, just make a thin wax layer by pouring it on hard surface and letting it dry. Then crack siome pieces off it and glue them in the terrain.
Well, my way was easier, quicker and more intuitive. I didnīt think about it too much (I guess I was tired)

So how to make this kind of ice? The best way is to try it out yourself. This took me fifteen minutes and ten minutes of that I was waiting for the wax to melt!

Sorry for those pics, theyīre a bit dark.

Selrach, the paint job is described in a previous topicT-38 Fin(n)ishing .

Plasticbattle, the kit was ok to build. Some useless parts and inaccuracies but if you gonna use additional PE, that should be no problem. I paid 3 euros for mine so I really donīt feel like whining about soft plastic...Besides I have another one waiting for me back home...







Gonna be finished soon, stay tuned!

Toni

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Posted: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 01:11 AM UTC
Toni--You have turned a serious DOG of a kit into a true work of art. Great job on the finishing of the kit and great work on the base and figure. Your skills continually blow me away. I worked to make my T-38 accurate while you built yours more or less OOB and yours will be 100 times better than mine because I will never get my finished product to look that good. GREAT WORK!
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Posted: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 03:59 AM UTC

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About the ice: I just took a small white candle and lit it. As soon as some parafin drops formed, I poured it over my precious water and quickly spread it around with a cocktail stick. Nothing else. I think it would have been also possible to make the ice layer separately, just make a thin wax layer by pouring it on hard surface and letting it dry. Then crack siome pieces off it and glue them in the terrain.



Your mind works great.. This kind of ice usually forms in the thin layer on the surface of the water... On that pic I posted before, the ice layer is big, so it cracks differently... You got it perfectly.. You really are snow and ice specialist on Armorama..

Weathering of the tank is wonderfull, and the figure too.

I love seeing your work as well as your explanations and tips, keep it up..

Mario M.
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Posted: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 07:40 AM UTC
One Word comes to mind Envar

AWSOME!

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Posted: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 05:49 PM UTC
Toni,
Great job. That figure looks like 1/16 scale!

Nice composition also. What's next?

Jim
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Posted: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 01:51 AM UTC
That's great ice. Don't be hard on yourself. That's one fine diorama.
Hats off
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Posted: Monday, February 10, 2003 - 01:29 PM UTC
Geez, I am learning so much on these forums. Your diorama is awesome! And like Maki said, your figure alone is great.
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