I too would be very interested to see how you guys mounted the tow bar on top of the turret. I would like to use it in some way as it seems like such a nicely done part of the kit.
I bought the Dragon kit on a whim at the LHS and been quite enjoying myself learning about this vehicle. Just need to get some projects done before I start it.
Jeff
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Posted: Friday, October 13, 2006 - 05:30 AM UTC
AngryDog
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Posted: Saturday, October 14, 2006 - 12:45 PM UTC
Randy, that's an interesting way to mount the tow bar. Certainly would be a good option for a kit!
Henri thanks for the drawing and info.
Aaron, I didn't realise this...Do you have a photo of the tow bar for the Humvee?
Or any pics of the Heat / Exhaust Deflector Shields..I have some..but more is always welcome?
Or the mounts for the side of the hull for the tow bars?
Thanks for the info...I didn't figure that nomex gloves where also heat resistant
Thanks, you can post them here..or send them to my email [email protected]
Henri thanks for the drawing and info.
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The towbar for a humvee looks very similar, but is smaller and does not rate a tank or brad.
Aaron, I didn't realise this...Do you have a photo of the tow bar for the Humvee?
Or any pics of the Heat / Exhaust Deflector Shields..I have some..but more is always welcome?
Or the mounts for the side of the hull for the tow bars?
Thanks for the info...I didn't figure that nomex gloves where also heat resistant
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I'll look at my pics and see what I can come up with for the towbar on top of the turret.
Thanks, you can post them here..or send them to my email [email protected]
Razor635
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Posted: Sunday, October 15, 2006 - 08:08 AM UTC
Keep in mind that if you are moving an M1A1 any distance with tow cables a brake tank is mandetory, the M1A1 brake system is powered by the engine and if it isnt runnning the broke tank cannot stop.
At Ft Knox an M1 Brake tank is required on the main training area roads due to the hills, even with a tow bar. The M88 can't handle some of the downhill grades with an M1A1 in tow. In most cases units just call the HETT platoon to pick up broke tanks.
Most early to mid 90s units will only have 2 towbars for the company. Both where on the M88.
At Ft Knox an M1 Brake tank is required on the main training area roads due to the hills, even with a tow bar. The M88 can't handle some of the downhill grades with an M1A1 in tow. In most cases units just call the HETT platoon to pick up broke tanks.
Most early to mid 90s units will only have 2 towbars for the company. Both where on the M88.
FatMike
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Posted: Sunday, October 15, 2006 - 09:03 AM UTC
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Keep in mind that if you are moving an M1A1 any distance with tow cables a brake tank is mandetory, the M1A1 brake system is powered by the engine and if it isnt runnning the broke tank cannot stop.
This is all fine and good, but I have seen it done without a break tank. You know how it goes, ya need the tanks to fight, can't spair them all for a tow :-) Now, I have only seen it once, and we were towing the tank on flat ground. so no big deal with one running into the other. It was towed out of the "danger" area and then hooked up to the M88 with a tow bar. The cables will be crossed also, so if you see them from the top it looks like an X
Ohhhh what a fun day that was...
Mike
Razor635
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Posted: Sunday, October 15, 2006 - 04:48 PM UTC
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This is all fine and good, but I have seen it done without a break tank. You know how it goes, ya need the tanks to fight, can't spair them all for a tow Now, I have only seen it once, and we were towing the tank on flat ground. so no big deal with one running into the other. It was towed out of the "danger" area and then hooked up to the M88 with a tow bar. The cables will be crossed also, so if you see them from the top it looks like an X
Ohhhh what a fun day that was...
Mike
The situation always dictates the method thats used during recovery operations. Of course I'm probobly one of the few people to bury his tank in the crevise on the south side of Manning Mountain. The TC said go straight and I did. The rank wound up at the bottom at about a 70 degree angle and the back grill was even with the top of the hole. It took 1 M88 and 2 Brake tanks to hold the M88 to get me out. It was one of the best recoveries I have seen. No damage to the tank except the left track adjusting link was snapped in 2. Mechs had one to us in a couple of hours. It was also the most expensive recovery, it cost me 3 cases of beer.
FatMike
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Posted: Monday, October 16, 2006 - 07:56 PM UTC
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The TC said go straight and I did.
Mechs had one to us in a couple of hours. It was also the most expensive recovery, it cost me 3 cases of beer.
The TC gave the directions and it cost you 3 cases of beer, what a rip off...
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