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kiwibelg
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Posted: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 - 04:18 AM UTC
Hi guys,
I have just recently bought a set of Emhar 1/35 W.W.1 figures.
I need to know if there exists a set of gas masks in this scale.I do not mean cannisters,i mean actual masks that are able to be applied to the figures heads.
Probably a long shot in the dark considering the lack of 1/35 W.W.1 figures.
Thanks in advance,
Shay
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Posted: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 - 05:17 AM UTC
Hi Shay,

I doubt it mate. However, considering the simplicity of WW1 Gas Masks they should be fairly simple to scratchbuild from putty or tissue, clear plastic and some solder wire, electrical wire or tubing.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 - 06:07 PM UTC
Hey Murdo,
Thanks for the reply cobber,
I've been looking everywhere for them,but haven't had any luck.I'm probably going to ditch the Emhar figures and buy a few figures from this site Tauro Models and do a slight conversion of one of the poses.
If anyone happens to know of any other metal figures i would be more than thankful for your help.
Thanks for the reply Murdo,
Shay
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Posted: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 - 06:20 PM UTC
Hi Shay

The only British ones I can think of are the old Scale Link white metal heads, which are 1/32nd scale really.

http://www.scalelink.co.uk/acatalog/Heads_and_Arms2.html

David
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Posted: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 - 07:18 PM UTC
Hi David,
That's exactly what i was after mate!Have you had experience with any of those particular figures/heads etc.?
Thanks a million,
Shay
exer
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Posted: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 - 07:25 PM UTC
Scale link are 1/32 not 1/35 so may be too big. There is a gas mask in the Tamiya US WW2 weapons set which may be close enough. I doubt if anyone ever uses it so you may be able to harvest some if you ask. I have one somewhere I'll try to find it and send you a photo.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 - 07:34 PM UTC
Hi Shay

They're not really a match for 1/35th as they are 'proper' 1/32nd. Very similar to (and around the same size as) the Airfix Multipose (IIRC same sulptor). I bought the action pack set of 8 figures years ago, and castings were old school (smooth, not too much creasing) but nicely sculpted. The random assortment of bodies, heads and arms didn't always work without fiddling though.

I have borrowed some of the equipment for the plastic ICM 1/35th figures (insert rant about ICM's cocking up of the '08 webbing here) but didn't try any head swaps as I have the Hornet set.

Agree about the Emhar figures, I bought the 1/72nd ones and didn't like them.

David
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Posted: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 - 08:20 PM UTC
Hi Pat,
I think you are right on the money with the U.S gasmasks.There shouldn't be too much of a scale issue if applied to the Emhar figures.However are the insides of the masks a bulk mold or are they very thin.I mean can they be be directly applied to a figures face?A photo shot would be great mate.Thx
David,once again thanks for the link and the tips.
cheers,Shay
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Posted: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 - 08:23 PM UTC
Hi Shay

The US gasmask in the Tamiya weapons set is thick and would require drastic plastic surgery to the face of the Emhar figure to fit it.

David
kiwibelg
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Posted: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 - 08:31 PM UTC
David,
I was kind of expecting that answer mate :-) !
Shay
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Posted: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 - 08:34 PM UTC
Shay I've got a few of the Tamiya respirators so I'll stick them in with your goodies parcel so see what you think. I'll be posting it tomorrow.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 - 08:52 PM UTC
Hi Shay

Some pictures to help you

Small box respirator

David
kiwibelg
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Posted: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 - 10:08 PM UTC
David,
Wow,all this is all going to come in handy when i start on a W.W.1 dio!!
It really is a pity that the First World War is neglected in our hobby.Sure,you have your planes in various scales but the choices of figures is zilch,however armor fares somewhat better.
There are so many endless possibilties from a dio builders point of view..the hills of Gallopili..the muddy trench wars at The Somme to name a few
I've seen this dio a few times at shows in Belgium,one that has really ignited my interest in making something in the future.Check out this superb
W.W.1 Diorama.
Thanks,
Shay
P.S Karl,not sure if you see my PM but i popped your dogs in the mail yesterday..
AlanL
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Posted: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 - 11:00 PM UTC
Hi Shay,

If you thinking WW1 you may like to look here. I don't know if he does head sets or not.

http://www.japanesearmorking.com/index.html

Click on Pirce List and image,

Cheers

Al
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Posted: Thursday, January 04, 2007 - 12:14 AM UTC
Here's a pic of the Tamiya gasmask.
kiwibelg
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Posted: Thursday, January 04, 2007 - 01:05 AM UTC
Hi Pat,
Good close up mate,it's great you took a few moments of your time to take the pic.
After looking at the pic..I guess if i used the dremel at a low speed i could carve carefully the inside section out .The eye area could be easily drilled out with a fine drill piece.The bags could use some PE straps and buckles,the hose could also be salvaged..well at least i'll give it ago and if all else fails i'll scratch some!

Al, the link to the site i had a while back but lost it when my IE crashed..all my favourites wiped out..
Thanks everyone,a day later and more than what i ever expected!
Cyber beers all round ,
Shay
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Posted: Friday, January 05, 2007 - 03:22 AM UTC
Shay, that's one of the best Dioramas I've ever seen. You can almost smell it!
kiwibelg
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Posted: Friday, January 05, 2007 - 03:58 AM UTC
Hi Murdo,
Having seen this on various occasions it's a dio that is now stuck in my head,if i can even pull off a dio half (or a 1/4) like this i'll be on cloud 9!
Hopefully the dio maker will be at an upcoming show,i could use some tips to create similair mud effects.
Cheers,Shay
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Posted: Friday, January 05, 2007 - 08:55 AM UTC
Hi, Shay!

I've been collecting the Tamiya US Infantry sprues for a diorama of mine, but I won't be using most of the masks. I can post you maybe 4-5 more if you get Karl's and decide you can use them; let me know.

I don't have one handy to consult, but if they are cast in such a way as to be concave or contoured on the inside, you might consider filling them instead of drilling them. Fill them with putty until they're flat; then remove the faces on the figures so they look like Dragon's Gen2 half-heads. It would be a lot easier than trying to tailor each mask to each face!

Just a thought --

John Antkowiak
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Posted: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 - 07:55 AM UTC
By the time you got done modifying the U.S. WWII mask, you might as well have made your own, which would be more accurate and much better looking. Everything about the lightweight gas mask in the set is wrong for modification, from the bag, to the lenght of tubing, to the very shape of the mask itself. You would need to carve new eypieces, fabricate new fittings, make a new bag, create new shorter tubing, create many many folds in the facemask, and also pruduce the flatspot where the nose clip is. You would also need to add material to the sides where the mask expands outwards, and also remove some from the chin and forhead.

The SBR is VERY simple in construction. You would need to make a putty mask with eyepieces. Then, using small tubing and some more putty, make the hose fittings and the flutter valve. The bag would probably be the hardest to make, but still only a square bag with a single flap. The tie around string would be difficult too. The hose could be anything with the right shape to it, though it may be hard to find.


Just my $.02
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