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The Holy Grail of 1:72
Andronicus
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Posted: Thursday, May 03, 2007 - 01:41 AM UTC
Her'es a question:
Of all the rare kits or totally unrepresented AFVs in 1:72 scale - which is the model you'd most like to see?
For me it would be a toss-up between the A34 Comet (cf previous threads of mine here) or the Soviet T 35 (mad number of turrets!)
What's yours? Is there a generally held one?
Andronicus
Sabot
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Posted: Thursday, May 03, 2007 - 04:47 PM UTC
I believe some of the Holy Grails, as in highly sought after, were some Esci kits that were never reissued. Amoung them were the 35t and the Italian WW2 tanks like the M13/40.
The old Esci M4A3 was a sought after kit until the flood of Dragon, Eduard/ExtraTech, and Trumpeter Shermans.
The old Esci M4A3 was a sought after kit until the flood of Dragon, Eduard/ExtraTech, and Trumpeter Shermans.
Drader
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Posted: Thursday, May 03, 2007 - 05:00 PM UTC
The ESCI M13/40 and Semovente are both in the land of the living, thanks to Italeri.
As for things we need in injection moulded plastic:
Crusaders, French stuff, and Centurions. And an FV432.
David
As for things we need in injection moulded plastic:
Crusaders, French stuff, and Centurions. And an FV432.
David
Sabot
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Posted: Thursday, May 03, 2007 - 05:20 PM UTC
There are plenty of modern vehicles that have never been covered. It wasn't until recently that we finally got the M2/M3 Bradley series and HMMWVs, but we still need the M151A1/A2 Jeeps, M35A2 Deuces, HEMTTs and all sorts of modern support vehicles.
panther1121
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Posted: Thursday, May 03, 2007 - 06:21 PM UTC
my request would be for the old esci m3 scout car and ww2 british army trucks in plastic not resin please? 
spongya
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Posted: Thursday, May 03, 2007 - 07:45 PM UTC
The Flak88 family, and all the "makeshift" trucks and halftracks with AA, AT guns, searchlights, etc...
And every Russian tank from the T54/55 to T-90. (Maybe the black eagle, too. After all, other "paper-tanks" were issued, too.)
And every Russian tank from the T54/55 to T-90. (Maybe the black eagle, too. After all, other "paper-tanks" were issued, too.)
Sabot
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Posted: Thursday, May 03, 2007 - 07:57 PM UTC
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Ace and PST have many of the Soviet/modern Russian tanks covered.The Flak88 family, and all the "makeshift" trucks and halftracks with AA, AT guns, searchlights, etc...
And every Russian tank from the T54/55 to T-90. (Maybe the black eagle, too. After all, other "paper-tanks" were issued, too.)
spongya
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Posted: Thursday, May 03, 2007 - 08:12 PM UTC
Thanks 
I'll look into it. (The LHS is a joke here...)
I'll look into it. (The LHS is a joke here...)Sabot
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Posted: Thursday, May 03, 2007 - 08:28 PM UTC
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Thanks
Ace Models site: http://www.acemodel.com.ua/
orange_3D
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Posted: Thursday, May 03, 2007 - 09:51 PM UTC
A good ww2 jeep kit in 1/72scale - the airfix kit came close but not quite there, lets not talk about the others out there. Italeri announced a new one, I'm anxious to see how that turns out.
An M151 ford mutt would be great too.
And how about british universal carrier? I would love to see that.
And anxiously waiting for the academy dragon wagon too
An M151 ford mutt would be great too.
And how about british universal carrier? I would love to see that.
And anxiously waiting for the academy dragon wagon too
spongya
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Posted: Thursday, May 03, 2007 - 10:03 PM UTC
Doesn't academy have a collection of 1/72 vehicles? (kublewagen, jeep, swimwagen in one box) I'm planning to buy it for the jeep, but if it's not up to today's standards, I'd rather wait
HippityHop
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Posted: Thursday, May 03, 2007 - 11:10 PM UTC
Dear Andorincus
For some time I've dreamed of a Tortoise in any scale. My dreams have been answered - Cromwell in 1/76 and Accurate Armour in 1/35. The only problem is convincing my wife that a 1/35 tortoise will positively benefit our household. Whilst I continue to work on that business plan the 1/76 version will just have to fill the gap.
Following closely on the tortoise's hind legs must be a 1/76 Conquerer - a truly beautiful lump of heavy metal. Equally, I agree a decent centurion in 1/76 would be very nice - although, the Airfix ( Iknow it's 1/72) one isn't that bad really. I'm currently toying with the idea of converting one into an IDF Puma.
Finally, and I'm sure you already know this (but just in case you don't) the old Matchbox Comet is still widely available (especially on eBay) here in the UK. I know it's not up to modern hi-tech standards but the basic shape is accurate and gives you loads to work with - we are modellers after all.
Cheers
Karol
For some time I've dreamed of a Tortoise in any scale. My dreams have been answered - Cromwell in 1/76 and Accurate Armour in 1/35. The only problem is convincing my wife that a 1/35 tortoise will positively benefit our household. Whilst I continue to work on that business plan the 1/76 version will just have to fill the gap.
Following closely on the tortoise's hind legs must be a 1/76 Conquerer - a truly beautiful lump of heavy metal. Equally, I agree a decent centurion in 1/76 would be very nice - although, the Airfix ( Iknow it's 1/72) one isn't that bad really. I'm currently toying with the idea of converting one into an IDF Puma.
Finally, and I'm sure you already know this (but just in case you don't) the old Matchbox Comet is still widely available (especially on eBay) here in the UK. I know it's not up to modern hi-tech standards but the basic shape is accurate and gives you loads to work with - we are modellers after all.
Cheers
Karol
Sabot
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Posted: Thursday, May 03, 2007 - 11:11 PM UTC
I didn't see anything wrong with the Academy Jeep. It is the best one available.
Andronicus
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Posted: Friday, May 04, 2007 - 02:27 AM UTC
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Dear Andorincus
For some time I've dreamed of a Tortoise in any scale. My dreams have been answered - Cromwell in 1/76 and Accurate Armour in 1/35. The only problem is convincing my wife that a 1/35 tortoise will positively benefit our household. Whilst I continue to work on that business plan the 1/76 version will just have to fill the gap.
Finally, and I'm sure you already know this (but just in case you don't) the old Matchbox Comet is still widely available (especially on eBay) here in the UK. I know it's not up to modern hi-tech standards but the basic shape is accurate and gives you loads to work with - we are modellers after all.
A tortoise would be fun!!!!
To be honest I hadn't looked at ebay---partly because I'm too lazy to follow the bidding-but also I don't really get how 2nd hand kits could work. Do some people just resell imediately after buying them? Or are they abandoned projects covered in blobs of UHU???
Talking about mad turret count---was there ever a 1:72 Vickers Independent?
Cheers
A
HippityHop
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Posted: Friday, May 04, 2007 - 03:03 AM UTC
Dear Andronicus
Sorry, I don't mean to sound patronizing but +90% of kits on sale via eBay are unbuilt, still in the box and in many cases still in their original cellophane wrapping! Quite simply these are kits bought as loft insulation - all part and parcel of plastic addiction. Completed kits are clearly marketed as such. In addition to private individuals, there are commercial sellers (on eBay) who specialise in selling old unmade kits.
As I said in my original post, the Matchbox Comet comes up fairly often on eBay, usually for a very normal price. Give it a try, it is a good way of getting hold of out of production kits and you might pick up a bargin.
I hope that's helpful.
Cheers
Karol
Sorry, I don't mean to sound patronizing but +90% of kits on sale via eBay are unbuilt, still in the box and in many cases still in their original cellophane wrapping! Quite simply these are kits bought as loft insulation - all part and parcel of plastic addiction. Completed kits are clearly marketed as such. In addition to private individuals, there are commercial sellers (on eBay) who specialise in selling old unmade kits.
As I said in my original post, the Matchbox Comet comes up fairly often on eBay, usually for a very normal price. Give it a try, it is a good way of getting hold of out of production kits and you might pick up a bargin.
I hope that's helpful.
Cheers
Karol
Andronicus
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Posted: Friday, May 04, 2007 - 04:55 AM UTC
Hi Karol,
Ha ha ha oh well--there you go. I had visions of half-made-but-rare kits going for silly money! I'll take a look on ebay-next time I have some disposable income....Thanks for the info,
Time for bed!
Cheers
A
Ha ha ha oh well--there you go. I had visions of half-made-but-rare kits going for silly money! I'll take a look on ebay-next time I have some disposable income....Thanks for the info,
Time for bed!
Cheers
A
orange_3D
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Posted: Friday, May 04, 2007 - 06:10 PM UTC
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I didn't see anything wrong with the Academy Jeep. It is the best one available.
Here's a brief rundown of what's wrong with the academy jeep:
Wheels: rim is overscale, detail in the hub is a disk with 4 bolts - totally wrong (the new airfix jeep has got it right), tires are not too bad though the notches on the thread should be offset from one another, and also looks overscale
Front radiator grill - has the wrong number of grills, not too bad unless you wanted to make an SAS jeep (which i did) and you end up with one grill in the middle instead of 2
The backrests of the seats are chunky and there are some slight errors with the shape of the body.
I'll try to post something up when I have more time. Will do it in another thread so as not to divert off topic on this one.
As for another braille grail - how about an M18 hellcat tank destroyer?
Splinty
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Posted: Friday, January 25, 2008 - 02:37 AM UTC
How about a greater variety of figures? By that I mean, figures made for modellers not for the sandbox.
fsrpcunha
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Posted: Friday, January 25, 2008 - 07:39 AM UTC
The M5/M5A1/M8 family. Mirage is supposed to release the whole Stuart family but so far we don't have these.
When these are done the only one missing is a "real" M24! The Hasegawa one does count (over scaled).
Cunha
When these are done the only one missing is a "real" M24! The Hasegawa one does count (over scaled).
Cunha
nikon1
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Posted: Friday, January 25, 2008 - 12:19 PM UTC
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How about a greater variety of figures? By that I mean, figures made for modellers not for the sandbox.
I second that. I would like to see Dragon release all of their 1/35 scale figures in 1/72 scale. Especially their modern figures. I really want the British SBS set of two figures and Kayak. Sabot, Acadamy has announce an M35 in 1/72 scale and judging from the artwork, the model appears to possibly be a cross between an M35 and an M35A2.
Charlie.
MacsTrucks
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Posted: Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 08:18 AM UTC
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I have been buying and selling on ebay for nearly 10 years now. I'm not one of those made people who trys to make a living at it, but an average Joe looking for something I otherwise could not find locally or to sell something that made not be of interest locally. Availability of kits can run the gammut from someone's trashed project to completely pristine kits that were bought but the buyer lost interest in building. Prices can range from incredible deals (which are hard to get with the broader appeal of ebay over the years) to ridiculous prices of someone insisting that last years discontinued kit is a rare, hard to find one of a kind collectable. My advice is to be be smart and use a quick search.
My holy grail, well I agree with figures for starters. Most of the wargaming pieces are clunky and poorly detailed. Many of the issued figures were the soft hard to work with vinyl anyway. I view DML's 1/35 line with envy and contempt everytime I visit the hobby shop. Why not 1/72 with the expanding line of kits?
For vehicles, I'd say the M35 trucks. I know there are some available in quality resin (Armo, I think), but they were so darn common for such a long period of time in a number of variants, that I could see them in injection molding for 1/3 the price. Dragon are you listening? Dragon seems intent on finding subjects that they can take a basic set of tooling and change parts to build the widest range of variants possible.
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To be honest I hadn't looked at ebay---partly because I'm too lazy to follow the bidding-but also I don't really get how 2nd hand kits could work. Do some people just resell imediately after buying them? Or are they abandoned projects covered in blobs of UHU???
I have been buying and selling on ebay for nearly 10 years now. I'm not one of those made people who trys to make a living at it, but an average Joe looking for something I otherwise could not find locally or to sell something that made not be of interest locally. Availability of kits can run the gammut from someone's trashed project to completely pristine kits that were bought but the buyer lost interest in building. Prices can range from incredible deals (which are hard to get with the broader appeal of ebay over the years) to ridiculous prices of someone insisting that last years discontinued kit is a rare, hard to find one of a kind collectable. My advice is to be be smart and use a quick search.
My holy grail, well I agree with figures for starters. Most of the wargaming pieces are clunky and poorly detailed. Many of the issued figures were the soft hard to work with vinyl anyway. I view DML's 1/35 line with envy and contempt everytime I visit the hobby shop. Why not 1/72 with the expanding line of kits?
For vehicles, I'd say the M35 trucks. I know there are some available in quality resin (Armo, I think), but they were so darn common for such a long period of time in a number of variants, that I could see them in injection molding for 1/3 the price. Dragon are you listening? Dragon seems intent on finding subjects that they can take a basic set of tooling and change parts to build the widest range of variants possible.
FuNsTeR
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Posted: Saturday, February 09, 2008 - 01:38 PM UTC
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my request would be for the old esci m3 scout car and ww2 british army trucks in plastic not resin please?
your prayers are about to be answered from Polish company IBG Models forthcoming release Bedford 3Ton 4x4 http://www.primeportal.net/models/thomas_voigt2/ibg_models/
strongpoppa
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Posted: Friday, February 22, 2008 - 04:49 PM UTC
I would say early war Pz III & IV, all french stuff, all japanese stuff, most Italian stuff, along with early war british (cruisers, mk IV, etc.)
There is my 2 cents! Sorry for using "stuff" so much!
Ben
There is my 2 cents! Sorry for using "stuff" so much!
Ben
CPL-Overby
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Posted: Saturday, February 23, 2008 - 02:16 AM UTC
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your prayers are about to be answered from Polish company IBG Models forthcoming release Bedford 3Ton 4x4
I don't see an M3 Scout Car
Oh well, I guess I'll just have to wait as well
panther1121
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Posted: Saturday, February 23, 2008 - 05:42 AM UTC
briliant bedford qls my favorite trucks,and in plastic,and even better have yopu seen the price in Hannants only sevon quid,i wonder how many i can get past swmbo this time.
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