Hi gang,
Since this old forum is going to be shut down very soon, I've started a Trucks thread on the new Forums! It can be found at:
https://forums.kitmaker.net/t/allied-trucks/3334
Let's get it moving!
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Chevy Semi Conversion from Barkingdigger
barkingdigger
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Got my conversion set in the mail last week.
Same here, however mine will be used on the ICM Studebaker kit for something different.
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Posted: Saturday, December 19, 2020 - 05:10 PM UTC
Got my conversion set in the mail last week. Great looking stuff, already started cutting some plastic. Put me down for anything related to scratch building an appropriate trailer.
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Posted: Saturday, December 19, 2020 - 04:34 AM UTC
Hi Gary, of course!
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Posted: Friday, December 18, 2020 - 10:06 AM UTC
Tom, Are you around and about tomorrow during the day. If so I’ll give you a bell.
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Posted: Friday, December 18, 2020 - 09:46 AM UTC
Hi Mike, no - the day job has been eating up all my time. But I'm off for four glorious weeks now so may start a thread on the new forum in the next few days...
(I've got a CAD project to finish, but I might even get back to that bolster truck I measured back in October!)
(I've got a CAD project to finish, but I might even get back to that bolster truck I measured back in October!)
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Posted: Thursday, December 17, 2020 - 05:04 AM UTC
Tom - any new posts on this subject? I have been off the radar for quite a while.
Have you moved this to the new forum by any chance? Trying to play a bit of catch up here.
Regards
Mike K
Have you moved this to the new forum by any chance? Trying to play a bit of catch up here.
Regards
Mike K
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Posted: Sunday, October 04, 2020 - 12:10 AM UTC
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But I thought there was a smaller "Super Single" sized tire the same size as the regular Deuce tire???
There was, it came out post-war and was nominally 10.50-18 size to avoid confusion with the DUKW's 11.00-18 MD tyres. But it was essentially the same size as the DUKW tyre but with stiffer sidewalls and chunkier tread. In 1:35 scale it would still be 29mm diameter like the AM DUKW wheels, instead of the 25mm diameter of the Italeri wheels. It might be worth looking at some of the other AM sets (Mig, etc) to see if any of them are the right size but with more square tread. I did CAD up a set (tried them on SW but they wanted an eye-watering price!) but have nobody to deal with to get them cast for cheaper traditional resin production.
[EDIT: You could get a reasonable facsimile with Tamiya's M8 Greyhound tyres, but the rims are wrong so you'd need to cut them out and graft in the rims from Italeri's DUKW wheels.]
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Posted: Saturday, October 03, 2020 - 08:13 AM UTC
For the Studebaker front axle, I found these photos, photobucket water mark.
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Posted: Saturday, October 03, 2020 - 07:55 AM UTC
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AND . . . If you should just get tired of having all those left over Italeri water tanks and Tamiya open cabs laying around you could build an open cab water truck just to use up some of those spares! (Anybody need the Italeri water tanks parts? I got lots and I hate to see good plastic go to waste!)
Mike,
Thanks for the water truck parts and Opel front axle. I think our cat and the carpet monster are running a con. After moving the bag around (liked the bag, shapeways 5th wheel 😂 ), he started running off with the tool cabinet. The monster tried to take a rear spring. I successfully wrestled the parts away from both and into the correct boxes.
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But I thought there was a smaller "Super Single" sized tire the same size as the regular Deuce tire???
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Posted: Saturday, October 03, 2020 - 03:22 AM UTC
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Well I intend to use that Italeri water tank to build this Fire Truck version (if I ever get around to it!) Will also use those left over Italeri DUKW tires for this one as well.[/URL]
Don't waste your time on the Italeri DUKW wheels - they are undersized inaccurate garbage! Get some DEF Model DUKW wheels instead. (No point doing all that scratch work only to ruin it with bad wheels!)
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Posted: Saturday, October 03, 2020 - 01:42 AM UTC
Seen at the MVPA National Convention:
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More photos of this vehicle at:
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/288190
More photos of this vehicle at:
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/288190
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Posted: Saturday, October 03, 2020 - 01:23 AM UTC
Also on my list for future (after I'm gone) builds:
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I have everything I need for the build except the Darley water pump and Tom just connected me to that on SW.
I contacted Darley in hopes they still had tech manuals/engineering drawings for my doing a scratch build on this pump but sadly no.
I have everything I need for the build except the Darley water pump and Tom just connected me to that on SW.
I contacted Darley in hopes they still had tech manuals/engineering drawings for my doing a scratch build on this pump but sadly no.
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Posted: Saturday, October 03, 2020 - 01:15 AM UTC
Well I intend to use that Italeri water tank to build this Fire Truck version (if I ever get around to it!) Will also use those left over Italeri DUKW tires for this one as well.
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Posted: Thursday, October 01, 2020 - 10:14 AM UTC
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(Anybody need the Italeri water tanks parts? I got lots and I hate to see good plastic go to waste!)
I've got some too - I wonder if they are the right size and shape for one of the many fire trucks built on Chevy or GMC frames? I found and ordered a Darley pump from Shapeways for just such a conversion...
[EDIT: This is the pump: https://www.shapeways.com/product/GTF4UAQJ5/1-35th-darley-fire-pump-front-mount?optionId=137982208&li=ostatus]
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Posted: Thursday, October 01, 2020 - 09:08 AM UTC
At least some Masters Production sets are now included in U-Models range :
https://www.scalelink.co.uk/acatalog/Masters_Productions_1_35_scale___WW2.html
The U-Models Chevy kit is one of them...
H.P.
https://www.scalelink.co.uk/acatalog/Masters_Productions_1_35_scale___WW2.html
The U-Models Chevy kit is one of them...
H.P.
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Quoted TextThis is just my gut reaction:
On the U-Models resin offering of the 1 1/2 ton Chevy Cargo truck, to me the cab looks fine but the hood and fenders again seem too long and somehow out of proportion.
+ 1
H.P.
I haven't seen the U-Models kit in the flesh, so can't really say much about it. Am I right in thinking the Masters Production, U-Models, and CMK kits are all the same moulds just passing from company to company?
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This is just my gut reaction:
On the U-Models resin offering of the 1 1/2 ton Chevy Cargo truck, to me the cab looks fine but the hood and fenders again seem too long and somehow out of proportion.
+ 1
H.P.
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This is just my gut reaction:
On the U-Models resin offering of the 1 1/2 ton Chevy Cargo truck, to me the cab looks fine but the hood and fenders again seem too long and somehow out of proportion.
On the U-Models resin offering of the 1 1/2 ton Chevy Cargo truck, to me the cab looks fine but the hood and fenders again seem too long and somehow out of proportion.
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Another small detail that some might find interesting while modeling the Chevy Semi, especially if modeling a Russian Lend-Lease cold weather prototype. I am told that some Chevy's and GMC's were delivered with a quilted headliner added for improved cab insulation. One maker of etched metal sets even includes this in his detail set.
Also I always add some reenforcement channels to the inside on the cab for better detailing.
Also I always add some reenforcement channels to the inside on the cab for better detailing.
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AND . . . If you should just get tired of having all those left over Italeri water tanks and Tamiya open cabs laying around you could build an open cab water truck just to use up some of those spares! (Anybody need the Italeri water tanks parts? I got lots and I hate to see good plastic go to waste!)
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Posted: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 - 03:32 AM UTC
More work by John Hale: Here is the HobbyBoss fuel truck with the substituted Italeri hard cab. John also said the HB fuel cans were messed up - I suggest substituting the Asuka set.
Please Note: No alterations to the HB chassis are necessary to drop on the more correct Italeri cab.
Please Note: No alterations to the HB chassis are necessary to drop on the more correct Italeri cab.
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Comparison of incorrect HobbyBoss fender (top) with Italeri fender. (bottom)
John Hale Photograph
The total overall cab/fender length is correct but the HB kit designers had to squash the cab to make it all fit.
(Bad Boys, Bad Boys . . . .)
John Hale Photograph
The total overall cab/fender length is correct but the HB kit designers had to squash the cab to make it all fit.
(Bad Boys, Bad Boys . . . .)
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Posted: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 - 01:10 AM UTC
Some out there will roll their eyes and say "Oh not this again . . . but."
I recommend for those who want to make this conversion that you stick to using the Italeri water truck as you donor kit.
Some will ask why not use the newer HobbyBoss hard cab kit? The HobbyBoss cab and fenders have a serious proportional problem: The fenders and hood are too long and the cab has then been foreshortened to make up for the problem. This started with their very first offering of the open cab Deuce which mounts the Bofors AAA gun and has continued thru their entire line of CCKW offerings. The remainder of the kit is extremely well done but when building any of their versions of the CCKW I continue to substitute the Italeri hard cab for the HB.
However the HB squashed cab might be a good candidate for use in building a semi-scratch Bedford truck??? - Waste not want not!
Here is one of my HB Short Wheel Base trucks under construction using the Italeri cab and Tamiya fenders - that was kind of a tough joining - I suggest you just stick to using the full Italeri cab and fender combo which is an easy drop-in conversion!
I recommend for those who want to make this conversion that you stick to using the Italeri water truck as you donor kit.
Some will ask why not use the newer HobbyBoss hard cab kit? The HobbyBoss cab and fenders have a serious proportional problem: The fenders and hood are too long and the cab has then been foreshortened to make up for the problem. This started with their very first offering of the open cab Deuce which mounts the Bofors AAA gun and has continued thru their entire line of CCKW offerings. The remainder of the kit is extremely well done but when building any of their versions of the CCKW I continue to substitute the Italeri hard cab for the HB.
However the HB squashed cab might be a good candidate for use in building a semi-scratch Bedford truck??? - Waste not want not!
Here is one of my HB Short Wheel Base trucks under construction using the Italeri cab and Tamiya fenders - that was kind of a tough joining - I suggest you just stick to using the full Italeri cab and fender combo which is an easy drop-in conversion!
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