Dragon Flakpanzer V Coelian
Auckland, New Zealand
Joined: November 04, 2008
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Posted: Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 11:04 PM UTC
This is my 1/35 Dragon Flakpanzer V Coelian build.
I intend to build this almost oob apart from a rear deck mesh set by Lionroar.
As this vehicle never made it into active service, I'm still thinking about painting and markings. I'm even thinking of a what if, with US markings for the unified europe invasion of russia
Heres some pics, I'm alternating between this and my Jagdpanther build.
Upper Hull
Lionroar Panther G mesh set
Step 1 completed
Wales, United Kingdom
Joined: September 06, 2008
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Posted: Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 11:34 PM UTC
Durring the end of the war, German Camoflage doctrine was pushing for the Octopus scheme. Don't know want this would do for a allied/german vehical. I would of thought with all the surplus OD and allied air power the White star would have been used. Looking forward to your finnish. Ultimately it was what the Germans wanted from the start
Current projects Tam Stug IV cut and shunt Trump KV2 Dragon Panther D with zim BefehlsPanther and Tam Hetzer
Auckland, New Zealand
Joined: November 04, 2008
KitMaker: 193 posts
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Posted: Sunday, February 01, 2009 - 12:26 AM UTC
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Durring the end of the war, German Camoflage doctrine was pushing for the Octopus scheme. Don't know want this would do for a allied/german vehical. I would of thought with all the surplus OD and allied air power the White star would have been used. Looking forward to your finnish. Ultimately it was what the Germans wanted from the start
Thanks Geraint. I've just had a look at octopus schemes, and this is a finish I may look at using. Maybe a red oxide primer with dunkelgelb and olive drab pattern? I have the verlinden US star stencils that I can use for the markings. Should make an interesting concept
Kentucky, United States
Joined: August 26, 2008
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Posted: Sunday, February 01, 2009 - 09:23 AM UTC
Lookin good so far. Can't wait to see it done.
Richard
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Auckland, New Zealand
Joined: November 04, 2008
KitMaker: 193 posts
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Posted: Monday, February 02, 2009 - 11:14 PM UTC
I've managed to complete step 2 tonight. This was assembling the rest of the roads wheels and gluing to the hull, plus fitting the other halves of the drive sprockets. Caution is needed when gluing the road wheels to the hull. You need to make sure they line up, and have the same spacing between. Mine aren't 100% perfect, but are close enough.
Hopefully time will allow step 3 to be completed tomorrow night.
We also have a public holiday here in New Zealand on Friday, so am hoping to get several hours of building in, but I can see SWMBO ruining that plan!
Pic of completed Step 2
California, United States
Joined: January 31, 2009
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Posted: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 05:26 PM UTC
Very nice work so far Andrew!
Those bogies will drive you nuts!
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Faulkner
Wales, United Kingdom
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Posted: Thursday, February 05, 2009 - 04:47 AM UTC
Looking good, Its the great grandad of the Sgr York. A very advanced AA platform for its day. Really looking forward to the paint job you come up with. I'm woundering what type of uniform the crew would have worn. Now that would be an intresting mix
Current projects Tam Stug IV cut and shunt Trump KV2 Dragon Panther D with zim BefehlsPanther and Tam Hetzer
England - West Midlands, United Kingdom
Joined: January 26, 2009
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Posted: Thursday, February 05, 2009 - 05:03 AM UTC
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Looking good, Its the great grandad of the Sgr York. A very advanced AA platform for its day. Really looking forward to the paint job you come up with. I'm woundering what type of uniform the crew would have worn. Now that would be an intresting mix
I think they would be Luftwaffe Field division, In Black panzer wraps.
Matt
When Death Smiles at us, All we can do is Smile back and say "Does your Mum know you're gay???"
Auckland, New Zealand
Joined: November 04, 2008
KitMaker: 193 posts
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Posted: Thursday, February 05, 2009 - 11:01 AM UTC
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Very nice work so far Andrew!
Those bogies will drive you nuts!
Thanks for the comments Mark, yes the bogies would probably be my least favourite part of armor modelling! Just the repetative steps over and over
Hope to get some progress made today
Auckland, New Zealand
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Posted: Thursday, February 05, 2009 - 11:18 AM UTC
Thanks Matt and Geraint. I"ve got a few thoughts in regards to some crew members for the tank, but have a few issues with how to kit out the crew to suit my unified europe invasion of russia theme for the kit. The main issue is the uniform, helmets and sidearms etc. I suppose it would depend on what point I made the change in history, and if I wanted to keep some of the detailing historically accurate. I'm thinking of American tanker uniforms, maybe equiped with german helmets?? Crews equipped with MP44s??
Has anyone else done anything similar to this? Any feedback/suggestions would be appreciated
Maryland, United States
Joined: May 04, 2007
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Posted: Thursday, February 05, 2009 - 04:47 PM UTC
Great start Andrew! Very unique thoughts on how to finish it, kinda cool. Looking forward to watching your progress on this. Kit should go together pretty well, I finished one a year or so ago, was pleased with the build.
Enjoy! Thanks for sharing.
Cheers -
Tim
Current projects:
AFV 8.8cm Flak 18 (35088) (paint stage)
Academy Warrior MCV (OIF) (final touches...then paint)
Next up:
Revell A-6E Intruder (?)
Auckland, New Zealand
Joined: November 04, 2008
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Posted: Thursday, February 05, 2009 - 07:40 PM UTC
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Great start Andrew! Very unique thoughts on how to finish it, kinda cool. Looking forward to watching your progress on this. Kit should go together pretty well, I finished one a year or so ago, was pleased with the build.
Enjoy! Thanks for sharing.
Cheers -
Tim
Cheers Tim
I was looking through your gallery pics and saw that you had built one too!
Is there anything I should watch out for during the build?
Thanks for the feedback
Auckland, New Zealand
Joined: November 04, 2008
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Posted: Thursday, February 05, 2009 - 07:46 PM UTC
I have completed Step 3, which included tool boxes, jack and exhaust stacks. However, now that I have seen the exhaust in the pic, I might get a little bit of filler in to clean up the exhaust.
I didnt get as much done as I had hoped today, murphys law struck as I took a lunch break from building, I found an unopened bottle of coke zero had leaked throughout the fridge, so the rest of the afternoon was spent cleaning the inside of the fridge!
Will get some more of the kit done tonight while watching Black Cap vs Australia in the Cricket!!
Below is a pic of completed Step 3
Auckland, New Zealand
Joined: November 04, 2008
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Posted: Thursday, February 05, 2009 - 10:59 PM UTC
Here is my final update for today. I've completed steps 4, 5 and 6. Been distracted by watching New Zealand winning the cricket, and cooking dinner and doing dishes.
I made new grab handles from 0.5mm wire for the hatches. I used self closing tweezers to bend the handles. One is a little bigger than the other, but I'm happy with them. I'm saving up to buy a mission models grab handler in the next week or two.
Not sure how much I'll get done tomorrow, as we are off to the beach, and having bbq dinner and drinks in the evening.
Heres pics of the progress
Step 4 completed
Step 5 completed
Step 6 completed
Kentucky, United States
Joined: August 26, 2008
KitMaker: 286 posts
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Posted: Friday, February 06, 2009 - 08:34 AM UTC
You are doing a good job. Ialso like the fact you're adding some more pis. I personally like seeing pics of all around the model, but that's just me. It's your log anyway. Good luck and I can't wait to see it finished.
Richard
"Building is easy. Painting is hard. Weathering is harder. Not going crazy doing the above is the hardest."
If it moves, shoot it. If it screams in [insert enemies language], shoot it again!
Play the XBox 360? Look for fallshirmjager9
New York, United States
Joined: August 11, 2005
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Posted: Friday, February 06, 2009 - 08:49 AM UTC
your doing a great job on it,
Wales, United Kingdom
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Posted: Friday, February 06, 2009 - 08:57 AM UTC
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Thanks Matt and Geraint. I"ve got a few thoughts in regards to some crew members for the tank, but have a few issues with how to kit out the crew to suit my unified europe invasion of russia theme for the kit. The main issue is the uniform, helmets and sidearms etc. I suppose it would depend on what point I made the change in history, and if I wanted to keep some of the detailing historically accurate. I'm thinking of American tanker uniforms, maybe equiped with german helmets?? Crews equipped with MP44s??
Has anyone else done anything similar to this? Any feedback/suggestions would be appreciated
Blast modells have done a what if uniform fo 46 tankers. IMHO it is a quite furturistic blend, they seem to be a bit of a mix of Geraman and modern allied gear. Check them out. I would go with MP 44, because lets face it, it was as about as modern as an assault rifle got, and look how many AK folowed on
Current projects Tam Stug IV cut and shunt Trump KV2 Dragon Panther D with zim BefehlsPanther and Tam Hetzer
United Kingdom
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Posted: Friday, February 06, 2009 - 04:28 PM UTC
andrew that build's looking sweet i'm so jealous i can't start my coelian coz i've got a part missing from the top of the exhaust and dragoncare still haven't responded to my e mail i sent them six weeks ago. good luck with the rest of the build mate.
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England - West Midlands, United Kingdom
Joined: January 26, 2009
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Posted: Friday, February 06, 2009 - 10:37 PM UTC
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andrew that build's looking sweet i'm so jealous i can't start my coelian coz i've got a part missing from the top of the exhaust and dragoncare still haven't responded to my e mail i sent them six weeks ago. good luck with the rest of the build mate.
HI Ant,
What parts are you missing, I've got the Panther G Late, and Panther G steel wheeled, i've got the spares from the one G exhausts.
Matt
When Death Smiles at us, All we can do is Smile back and say "Does your Mum know you're gay???"
Auckland, New Zealand
Joined: November 04, 2008
KitMaker: 193 posts
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Posted: Saturday, February 07, 2009 - 03:10 PM UTC
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Blast modells have done a what if uniform fo 46 tankers. IMHO it is a quite furturistic blend, they seem to be a bit of a mix of Geraman and modern allied gear. Check them out. I would go with MP 44, because lets face it, it was as about as modern as an assault rifle got, and look how many AK folowed on
Hi Geraint
I might have a look at those figures to get an idea. I guess I'll have to scratch the line in the sand for where accurate history ends, and what if begins. A successful assasination of hitler in early september 1944 could be the starting point. It gives enough time for negotiations (cease fire, and invasion plans) between germany and the allies (excluding russia), and before russia advances too far west.
As always all suggestions and feedback are welcome
Massachusetts, United States
Joined: November 07, 2008
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Posted: Saturday, February 07, 2009 - 05:08 PM UTC
Hi Andrew, Your flakpanzer is coming along nicely, and I also like where your going with it. I like the concept, who knows what might have happened with Hitler out of the way in 44.
I like the oxide base scheme and the stars, now that would look really cool.
Rob
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Auckland, New Zealand
Joined: November 04, 2008
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Posted: Saturday, February 07, 2009 - 10:49 PM UTC
Here's a progress update for today, a few more steps completed.
I completed step 7, which was attaching grills to rear hull. A hint for those who have a Flakpanzer Coelian to build in their stash, part J19 (x2) will require rounding on one corner, as all J19s corners are square, yet the hull has a a round corner.
Step 8 was fitting the crew heater unit, and some lifting hooks. I left off part F32 as I am fitting the Lionroar engine mesh set.
The Lionroar mesh set is very fine, you have to be careful not to bend the mesh when cleaning up the parts. I just used superglue to attach the etched parts to the kit.
Richard, I added a few more pics of each step this time
Back to work tomorrow
Hopefully will get the build completed this week and ready to paint on the weekend.
As always, comments and suggestions are welcome
Kentucky, United States
Joined: August 26, 2008
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Posted: Sunday, February 08, 2009 - 08:05 AM UTC
Looks good. Did the mesh have the bolts on the corners or did you add them. (or my eyes might be playing tricks...)
I can't wait to see it done. Are you going to have the cannons facing forward or towards the air.
Richard
"Building is easy. Painting is hard. Weathering is harder. Not going crazy doing the above is the hardest."
If it moves, shoot it. If it screams in [insert enemies language], shoot it again!
Play the XBox 360? Look for fallshirmjager9
Auckland, New Zealand
Joined: November 04, 2008
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Posted: Sunday, February 08, 2009 - 09:35 PM UTC
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Looks good. Did the mesh have the bolts on the corners or did you add them. (or my eyes might be playing tricks...)
I can't wait to see it done. Are you going to have the cannons facing forward or towards the air.
Richard
Hi Richard,
The mesh set isnt quite complete. I started getting quite tired last night, and didnt want to risk losing any parts. There is further bolt detail to be added, I'll probably finish this tomorrow night.
I've glued the travel mount down, so I'll be aiming the cannons skyward. I'm toying with ideas for a small diorama for the kit, maybe have it parked on the side of a road, with some of the crew standing on the tank, and one or two in a field/paddock inspecting a section of shot down russian plane.
Auckland, New Zealand
Joined: November 04, 2008
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Posted: Friday, February 13, 2009 - 10:42 PM UTC
