Now that my T-55 Blog is drawing to a close I'm busy planning ahead and thinking about the next project. This time another modern Russian AFV, post Soviet from the current Russian Federation period, the T-90A m2004.
I have been thinking very carefully about what kind of scene I would like to do next. Over my last few projects I've done Summer, and Winter both in rural or forest settings. I thought this time it would be a fun change to set a diorama in an urban setting, and focus the scene more specifically around a specific reference photo as an inspiration (with some minor modification for artisitic licence of course).
So I decided to place a scene in a city fight setting from the Chechen conflict. I searched around a lot for various reference photos that were not necessarily combat action images (of which there are a lot of Chechnya and Georgia) but were images set in between the fighting, that demonstrated the futility and tragedy of this bitter conflict, and gave it a human face. I was very certain that I wanted to avoid any propagandist scenes demonstrating the heroism or courage of Soldiers, or that trivialised the subject by being gung-ho or action packed.
In the end the two following images really stood out to me as striking images, the second image especially. This scene of a Soldier sitting by a dinner table with a freshly laid table cloth and utensils ready to have tea, in the middle of a war torn Grozny with a tank parked in the background, really stood out as a demonstration of the absurdity of war and the tragic nature of people trying to carry on with the most simple aspects of life in a battlefield. The house has been destroyed, the city in rubble, yet this soldier still takes the time to sit down by a laid table and relax in a pause in the fighting. It's this soldiers "tea" break that I decided to use as the basis of my next diorama, and the scene I would try to convey.
The image for the Diorama
The basic layout then for this scene would be to have the ruined kitchen in the foreground, with soliders seated on the chairs and damaged sofa, the T-90 parked in the background, with various ruined buildings in the far background depicting the city setting.
After some thought I decided that two small ruins would be enough, one placed in each far corner, with the table and chairs centre foreground, and the Tank just behind this. While the T-90 would be a major element I want to try and draw the viewers attention more keenly to the men sitting round the ruined kitchen with their hot drinks, soup, and Vodka.
The T-90A will be based around the old Tamiya T-72 as a core kit, with various Miniarm Resin upgrade packs to turn it into a modern T-90A. In other posts people raised the problem with modern T-90's having a different exhaust and engine deck layout to earlier T-90's and T-72's. When I opened my Miniarm set however I was pleased to find that Miniarm had addressed the exhaust issue with including an alternative exhaust component, which just leaves me to make minor adjustments to the engine deck layout myself with plasticard and filler.
The colour scheme of the T-90A will be based around these reference examples, using the modern Russian three tone camo scheme of black, green, and khaki.
I will also be using more resin modern Russian army figures in the scene, this time every figure will be resin and they will be from a variety of sources. Having already used Tank models figures in my T-55 diorama, I was keen to try some other Russian companies. In this project I will be using Evolution, Battalion, and Masterclub figures. I've been very careful to try and choose the best figures that are not only excellent quality, but also convey the scene and the story that I am trying to tell by their pose, sculpting, and expression. I will be using 4-5 figures (still not decided for sure) but they will be a mix of Infantry and Tankers.
WIP and build photos to follow later, I will also be sure to make sure that the build images in this blog are better quality than my previous blog better camera and better photo setup (lighting etc).
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Posted: Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 04:16 AM UTC
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Posted: Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 06:44 AM UTC
Jon,
I look forward to this dio, I remember seeing that photo a while back, I think its a great idea for a dio....but man, I don't envy you having to replicate some of those ruined apartment blocks!!
Good luck!
I look forward to this dio, I remember seeing that photo a while back, I think its a great idea for a dio....but man, I don't envy you having to replicate some of those ruined apartment blocks!!
Good luck!
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Posted: Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 07:22 AM UTC
Look forward to the dio. One thing that intrigues me is the lack of rubble around some of the building. Has the area been cleared?
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Posted: Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 07:24 AM UTC
Ambitious project, look forward to seeing it.
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Posted: Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 07:38 AM UTC
Thanks for the kind words and encouragement guys!
tskross, I know what you mean, but actually there's some great plaster kits out there that depict ruined apartments well. They also are great as you can grind them up, chop them apart, and add bullet holes and damage easily. Alternatively there's the scratch building option too which would be fun and quite an interesting challenge. Up to now I have only scratch built simple structures, farm houses, wooden sheds etc. A trashed concrete apartment block would be a cool change! Scratch building would also be cheaper than buying the buildings as kits and would also give me more freedom as to what I wanted to replicate.
Pat, yes I agree some of the areas are remarkably clear of debris and rubble. Perhaps the area was cleared during the advance into the city. I'm not quite sure. All I know for sure about these images is that they are from Gronzy. You can see a similar thing in some of these pictures too:
Mike - Thanks! I'm looking forward to building it! The base will certainly have to be larger than my last diorama.
tskross, I know what you mean, but actually there's some great plaster kits out there that depict ruined apartments well. They also are great as you can grind them up, chop them apart, and add bullet holes and damage easily. Alternatively there's the scratch building option too which would be fun and quite an interesting challenge. Up to now I have only scratch built simple structures, farm houses, wooden sheds etc. A trashed concrete apartment block would be a cool change! Scratch building would also be cheaper than buying the buildings as kits and would also give me more freedom as to what I wanted to replicate.
Pat, yes I agree some of the areas are remarkably clear of debris and rubble. Perhaps the area was cleared during the advance into the city. I'm not quite sure. All I know for sure about these images is that they are from Gronzy. You can see a similar thing in some of these pictures too:
Mike - Thanks! I'm looking forward to building it! The base will certainly have to be larger than my last diorama.
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Posted: Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 08:41 AM UTC
Oh my god, I have no words for the first two pictures. I´ve seen some photos of Grozny, which showed nearly identical destruction.
I look forward to see the steps of the dio.
greetings...
Soeren
I look forward to see the steps of the dio.
greetings...
Soeren
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Posted: Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 08:59 AM UTC
Thanks Soeren, I agree that the first two photos really are remarkable. I could never imagine how people could carry on with their lives in a such a place. That I suppose is testament to the strength of human character, determination, and courage.
After some thought I've decided to scratch build the ruins so I can make the buildings more specific and relevant. I wanted to move away from generic Stone buildings (a lot of kits on the market are focused on WW2 era and not so many on modern apartment blocks), and have more modern concrete apartments. Here are some images that I'm using as my primary references for the architecture, all images are for discussion and reference only of course:
After some thought I've decided to scratch build the ruins so I can make the buildings more specific and relevant. I wanted to move away from generic Stone buildings (a lot of kits on the market are focused on WW2 era and not so many on modern apartment blocks), and have more modern concrete apartments. Here are some images that I'm using as my primary references for the architecture, all images are for discussion and reference only of course:
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Posted: Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 09:43 AM UTC
awesome! I'm glad you have decided to scratch the buildings, it will be a really interesting process to watch. And weathering that tank should be a lot of fun, lots of mud!!
looking forward to this build!
looking forward to this build!
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Posted: Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 09:52 AM UTC
This is going to be another amazing one. I have already subscribed to this one and will be using this as my inspiration to build my first russian armored vehicle once I get going on the other ones. Check out my build as well because I know your advice will be highly appreciated. I would love to send you figures and see your magic as well but thats another story. I am just really excited to see another master piece from you hands.
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Posted: Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 10:04 AM UTC
Very interesting concept which will be fun to follow.
Drywall is a nice way of simulating modern concrete structures - and its cheep or free if you know somebody doing houserepair.
Just moisten the paperbacking and peel/scrape it off.
Cheers and good luck/Jan
Drywall is a nice way of simulating modern concrete structures - and its cheep or free if you know somebody doing houserepair.
Just moisten the paperbacking and peel/scrape it off.
Cheers and good luck/Jan
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Posted: Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 10:37 AM UTC
Nice idea....good luck with it..........Al
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Posted: Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 10:53 AM UTC
Thanks for the tip Jan. What exactly is dry wall I'm not familiar with it, do you know if its sold under that name in the UK?
Thanks Sean I'll look into your blog, always good to see more Russian stuff around. As for masterpiece I'm not sure about that! We will have to see how it turns out!
Thanks Al, I think a little luck and patience will go along way!
Time for some photos of the kits that I'll be using, still waiting for some of it to arrive but I will post build images of those when they get here.
First up the excellent figures from Battalion, these were tricky to get (I had to order online via Armour35.ru and rely on my wifes Russian skills! Living with a native speaker sure helps!), they certainly were worth the effort though. Amazing sculpts and brilliant casting.
As for the standing trooper I'm not sure if I will use him yet, still thinking on that. Again though another wonderful figure.
I especially like the ammo belts that come with these guys, it's such a nice extra little touch that really brings a lot to the figures.
Next up the various Miniarm sets to upgrade the T-72 to the T-90, again ordered from Armour35.ru thanks to my wife!
The wonderful turret set
Upgraded hull and wheels
The tracks... thats a lot of track links! And I thought the Modelkasten were bad on the T-55!
Thanks Sean I'll look into your blog, always good to see more Russian stuff around. As for masterpiece I'm not sure about that! We will have to see how it turns out!
Thanks Al, I think a little luck and patience will go along way!
Time for some photos of the kits that I'll be using, still waiting for some of it to arrive but I will post build images of those when they get here.
First up the excellent figures from Battalion, these were tricky to get (I had to order online via Armour35.ru and rely on my wifes Russian skills! Living with a native speaker sure helps!), they certainly were worth the effort though. Amazing sculpts and brilliant casting.
As for the standing trooper I'm not sure if I will use him yet, still thinking on that. Again though another wonderful figure.
I especially like the ammo belts that come with these guys, it's such a nice extra little touch that really brings a lot to the figures.
Next up the various Miniarm sets to upgrade the T-72 to the T-90, again ordered from Armour35.ru thanks to my wife!
The wonderful turret set
Upgraded hull and wheels
The tracks... thats a lot of track links! And I thought the Modelkasten were bad on the T-55!
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Posted: Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 11:33 AM UTC
Quoted Text
What exactly is dry wall I'm not familiar with it, do you know if its sold under that name in the UK?
In the UK it's called plasterboard
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Posted: Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 11:54 AM UTC
Ahhhh thanks Pat! That makes sense!
I hadn't thought of plasterboard actually, good idea!
I hadn't thought of plasterboard actually, good idea!
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Posted: Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 11:56 AM UTC
Hi Jon,
Looks like another interesting Russian dio from you.
Have you considered the Rest Models' Modern Russian Army (in Chechnian region) set for your scene?
Rudi
Looks like another interesting Russian dio from you.
Have you considered the Rest Models' Modern Russian Army (in Chechnian region) set for your scene?
Rudi
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Posted: Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 12:10 PM UTC
Hi Rudi, yes I had thought about the rest models set. However to be honest I just wasn't that impressed with the sculpts. I feel that the seated tanker is especially bad! I like the standing trooper with the upturned collar, and the standing soldier with the helmet is okay, the Trooper with the Ushanka isn't so great though. I felt his face to be a little poor compared to what I had seen with Tank and Evolution etc. Maybe the photographs don't do them justice I don't know?
I also wanted to get a wide range of poses from different manufacturers so I could find myself figures that suited the feel of the scene more.
Also I think it will be quite interesting to compare modern Russian figures from so many different Russian firms in one project. I wonder if there will be any scale creep between them? So far the Battalion seem on the same size and dimensions as my Tank modern figures.
I also wanted to get a wide range of poses from different manufacturers so I could find myself figures that suited the feel of the scene more.
Also I think it will be quite interesting to compare modern Russian figures from so many different Russian firms in one project. I wonder if there will be any scale creep between them? So far the Battalion seem on the same size and dimensions as my Tank modern figures.
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Posted: Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 03:25 PM UTC
Jon, you wouldn't happen to have built a huge diorama depicting the Bosnian campaign with the subject being an Abrams tank next to a destroyed bridge? I believe there was a bombed out building as well with an T-72 that slid into the gulley?
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Posted: Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 05:17 PM UTC
Wow !!
Awesome project Jon !
I have that MIniarm stuff too and I'll be watching closely
Cheers
Paul
Awesome project Jon !
I have that MIniarm stuff too and I'll be watching closely
Cheers
Paul
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Posted: Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 06:43 PM UTC
Howdy,
Have you seen the Masterclub figures from this timeframe? I can't wait to see your work. Ryan
Have you seen the Masterclub figures from this timeframe? I can't wait to see your work. Ryan
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Posted: Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 07:25 PM UTC
The photos you've used for inspiration are amazing and terrifying. Looks like something out of WWII. So much destruction.
This is a topic that I wouldn't mind tackling in the future. So many nice figures available to compliment a sweet piece of Russian armour.
Jon I can't wait to see this one evolve.
Matt
This is a topic that I wouldn't mind tackling in the future. So many nice figures available to compliment a sweet piece of Russian armour.
Jon I can't wait to see this one evolve.
Matt
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Posted: Friday, November 20, 2009 - 12:15 AM UTC
Thanks for the comments guys.
Mike - Wasn't me I'm afraid but it certainly sounds like an interesting diorama, do you happen to have any photos of it?
Paul - thanks, yeah I too was really impressed with miniarms kits. A little pricey but great detail and workmanship I think.
Ryan - yes I have they are great, and actually I will be using two masterclub figures in this diorama. I have them en route in the post now from AFV's online shop.
Matt - thanks, those are some of the feelings and sentiments that I'm hoping to express in my diorama also. Ideally I want people to look at my diorama and have the same feeling as looking at the photograph, the same impact of the human tragedy for everyone involved. If I can do that then I feel the project would have been a success.
As a side note I received my Evolution figure in the post today and had a quick look at it before I went to work.
I was extremely impressed, it's another sculpt by Sergei Travianski Menelay (he also sculpted the Battalion figures I am using), and the detail is breathtaking! Also from my quick dry fit I found the fit of the pieces to be excellent. They went together effortlessly and with hardly any gaps to be filled. Just one tiny section, I think that however is more down to the resin having a small chip missing from damage in transit than from anything else.
I will post images of the Evolution figure tonight when I get home.
Mike - Wasn't me I'm afraid but it certainly sounds like an interesting diorama, do you happen to have any photos of it?
Paul - thanks, yeah I too was really impressed with miniarms kits. A little pricey but great detail and workmanship I think.
Ryan - yes I have they are great, and actually I will be using two masterclub figures in this diorama. I have them en route in the post now from AFV's online shop.
Matt - thanks, those are some of the feelings and sentiments that I'm hoping to express in my diorama also. Ideally I want people to look at my diorama and have the same feeling as looking at the photograph, the same impact of the human tragedy for everyone involved. If I can do that then I feel the project would have been a success.
As a side note I received my Evolution figure in the post today and had a quick look at it before I went to work.
I was extremely impressed, it's another sculpt by Sergei Travianski Menelay (he also sculpted the Battalion figures I am using), and the detail is breathtaking! Also from my quick dry fit I found the fit of the pieces to be excellent. They went together effortlessly and with hardly any gaps to be filled. Just one tiny section, I think that however is more down to the resin having a small chip missing from damage in transit than from anything else.
I will post images of the Evolution figure tonight when I get home.
Posted: Friday, November 20, 2009 - 02:16 AM UTC
Nice research and striking images. It will surely be an interesting project. I am looking forward to see it started.
Thanks for sharing
Thanks for sharing
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Posted: Friday, November 20, 2009 - 03:58 AM UTC
Sorry Jon, no pics of the diorama. It was featured in FineScale Modeler a few years ago and I regret not buying the issue ever since. The detail and color was incredible.
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Posted: Friday, November 20, 2009 - 04:44 AM UTC
Thanks Jesper! I am heading to a local hardware store now to get some of the raw materials for the diorama base and the buildings. I'm hoping to start construction of some of the buildings tonight or over this weekend.
Mike thats a shame, but certainly sounds like a great diorama!
Here are some shots of the Evolution figure. It's the excellent "modern Russian Tankman" and is rather different to the modern tank crew offerings from Tank model, as it features the same uniform as the Zvezda set. I really was very impressed with this piece. The work on the folds and creases in the uniform fabric are especially well done and it will be a pleasure to paint. The scenic base is also a nice little touch that I might use in the future for a vignette.
Mike thats a shame, but certainly sounds like a great diorama!
Here are some shots of the Evolution figure. It's the excellent "modern Russian Tankman" and is rather different to the modern tank crew offerings from Tank model, as it features the same uniform as the Zvezda set. I really was very impressed with this piece. The work on the folds and creases in the uniform fabric are especially well done and it will be a pleasure to paint. The scenic base is also a nice little touch that I might use in the future for a vignette.
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Posted: Friday, November 20, 2009 - 05:44 AM UTC
The various figures are looking great !
Please stop teasing us ! Show us where you have gone so far.
Olivier
Please stop teasing us ! Show us where you have gone so far.
Olivier