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Dieppe Dingo HELEN Build
csmanning
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Posted: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 02:20 PM UTC
Hey Chris!

Thanks for reminding me about the log book under the lid... I noticed that before but wasn't sure what it was for... then when you posted the stowage info you mentioned it there... See there's always something to learn. I had no idea it was typically on the LHS... I just assumed that that's where it was... Interesting coincidence.

The LHS Rear wheel.... I think you're right.... BLAST! Do you think I should have it completely gone or try and reduce one of the wheels so it looks like it's on its rim hub? I'm open to suggestions... Got any pictures of a dingo with the wheel removed?? I think it'll look funny if I simply left the wheel off.
ChrisDM
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Posted: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 10:44 PM UTC
Its probably just the tyre gone Carmen, either burned off, or shredded when the Dingo was shoved about on the beach.

Message coming your way
csmanning
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Posted: Sunday, August 22, 2010 - 03:39 PM UTC
Hey Everyone

I finished my build.

To simulate the bullet holes down the RHS I first thinned the inside of the two stowage bins and the two jerry cans.



I then heated an scribing ail over a flame and pushed the point into the plastic. I push through to different depths to give different size holes. Those smaller ones I drilled out using my pin vice and small drill bit.


I put on the ET Models bin lids and remaining PE latches. The hinges were quite easy to make and have turned out amazing. I also scratch built the log book holster under the RHS bin lid using brass sheet.



Here's the bullet ridden jerry cans. I have one strap down to jazz it up a bit. It's pretty hard to simulate bullet holes in small PE brass straps.


Here's the LHS bin lid.


I have it primed now checking for errors. If anyone sees anything please let me know. Feedback always accepted and encouraged. Cheers!!

CM
ChrisDM
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Posted: Sunday, August 22, 2010 - 09:30 PM UTC
Superb work Carmen, those bullet holes must hae taken some time!

I can't wait to see some coulour on this

Regrading the left side rear wheel, I'm not so sure the tyre is missing after all. Haing another look, it looks like it might instead be bent with the top leaning away from the Dingo?

Chris
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Posted: Friday, August 27, 2010 - 03:25 AM UTC
Hi Chris

It must be the anorak in me but FYI compound anti dim is a paste used to prevent shine/fogging on the respirators lenses although many ex-service men say it did not work. In one end (Marked Red) is the polishing compound and in the other is a small cloth. The outside container was and still is a small light green tube with a screw cap at either end. In WWIi this would have been the Outfit Anti-dimming Mk. V.

NOTE: The polishing compound was caustic and it was recommended that the user disposed of the compound as if it leaked it was strong enough to strip paint; just what you want near your eyes LOL.

I think its still issued though!

Martyn
ChrisDM
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Posted: Friday, August 27, 2010 - 04:27 AM UTC
Thanks Martyn

I had no idea specifically what I was, I just copied the list from the War Department's official MkII stowage diagram

My experience though is that these are often diagrams issued when that Mark is new, and in proactice there are often variations both in terms of items carried and in the case of tank interiors, sometimes the shape of stowage boxes/ lockers. Obviously the 'ideal' is not always the most workable
AlanL
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Posted: Friday, August 27, 2010 - 05:51 AM UTC
Hi Carmen,

Outstanding work, this will be terrific, love the attention to detail, this will be a cracking kit when you have it done.

Al
csmanning
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Posted: Sunday, August 29, 2010 - 06:01 AM UTC
Thanks Alan! I hope it turns out as good as my Churchill.

Here's a small update. I primed and painted the DIngo in Khaki Green No. 3. My mixture is 50:50 Tamiya Nato Green and Tamiya Red Brown. Do not match off these pictures. It was cloudy the day I took them and my ceiling light has given a more yellowish tinge to the actual true color of the model.


I then did some post shading by knocking back my base color by adding some Tamiya Buff to it.


As for the camo pattern, I know there is much discussion out there in respect to did they have it or not.. and how many colors were in the camo pattern, but I'm of the opinion that some cars had a two tone camo, and HUNTER has a three tone, and some had no camo pattern at all. As for the actual colors I'm not going to open that can of worms. I'm sticking to Khaki Green No. 3 as my base and black as my camo.

Now, in both pictures I have of Helen I can't definitively pick out the camo lines other then on the front stowage bin. I checked Armoured Acorn (www.armouredacorn.com) for help, but I did not agree with Barry's line drawing... but that was mostly because it was of a different Dieppe car.

I reviewed other pictures from Through the Lens and still couldn't come to a conclusive outline, as well as the line drawing from Echelon's Dieppe Dingo decal set (there's only two views of Helen on that).


SO... I used a bit of artistic license to put it on. I imagine once I'm finished someone will have a line drawing of the camo pattern for me. I'm happy with what I've done, so I'm moving on.



I used Tamiya Nato Black as the black camo. I never use straight Black or straight White on a model. Nato Black is more of a very dark gray which looks nice once applied. For whites I typically dilute with Buff to give an off white.

Decals and details later today and tomorrow.
vonHengest
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Posted: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 - 01:27 PM UTC
Don't loose momentum, this is looking to turn into and even more awesome build than it already is. I'm looking forward to seeing those decals in place and some nice weathering. Can we expect to see this 1/35 HELEN buried up to her rims in some loose beach groundwork?
csmanning
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Posted: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 - 03:57 PM UTC
HAHAHA! Yes Jeremy you can expect that... but I may show it under a different blog where I combine both my Dieppe Churchill tank BOLSTER and HELEN up to their rims in pebble beach. Have no fear HELEN is almost done, I already have the decals on, and a nice wash with the details painted.... she looks beautiful! I've been taking pictures just haven't had a chance to upload them yet... bear with me. Thanks for the comments!!

Carmen
vonHengest
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Posted: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 - 06:47 PM UTC
Awesome! I'll have to check out your build of BOLSTER if you have it posted. Can't wait to see the new picks, and looking forward to your next blog where everything comes together, till then enjoy a cold one mate
csmanning
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Posted: Thursday, September 02, 2010 - 02:12 AM UTC
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/147113&page=1

Here's the link to my Dieppe Churchill MK 1 BOLSTER build log. Enjoy!
vonHengest
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Posted: Thursday, September 02, 2010 - 07:53 AM UTC
Much thanks for the link, I'll go check it out right now
csmanning
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Posted: Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 09:07 AM UTC
Hey Everyone!

This will probably be my last post for this build. All I have left is to mount some antennas, put some stowage in the bins and finish my tow cable that'll be wrapped around the rear U channel. This has been another great little build. I totally recommend the Miniart kit, and besides the lack of detail on the front mounting brackets it was a joy to put together. The only other thing I realized I did not mention earlier is that the kit is also missing the rifle bracket above the radio in the rear of the cabin, something else to watch out for. If you're having the roof opened all the way you'll have to do something about it, but half folded like mine you can't even see it.

It has been a joy discussing this topic with all you guys and making yet more new friends. Cheers and Happy modelling!

First... here's a little tip I picked up a while ago for wheel masks... you can find these at dollar stores or artists stores or craft stores, but they're inexpensive circle templates which are awesome for masking wheels.




Her's with the decals... I apologize for the quality of pictures... my camera was acting screwy and wouldn't focus properly.

Then I knocked back the stark colors of the decals with the base colors.

Here's it all done, after a wash of burnt umber oil, and a glaze of light gray along the lower hull.






Reunioned at last!!

Zaltar
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Posted: Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 09:44 AM UTC
Great stuff! The Dingo and the Churchill go together perfectly! What's next on the Dieppe Dio Agenda?

zaltar
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Posted: Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 09:45 AM UTC
Wow Carmen, this is going really well. It looks great and I can't wait to see this in person.

13 more sleeps!!

cheers
Bob
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Posted: Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 10:40 AM UTC
Fantastic! -insert thumbs up icon here-
ChrisDM
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Posted: Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 11:09 AM UTC
Superb Carmen, now get them on that base
JKLeClair
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Posted: Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 02:02 PM UTC
Hey Carmen,

good to see she is finally done. Your work in progress was great to see, and a great reason to regularly visit armorama. Congrats
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Posted: Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 02:52 PM UTC
Hi Carmen ...been watching from the sidelines and I've got to say congrats on two great builds...You know you were right about a line drawing showing up right after you paint your kit ...I just picked up the Militaria Magazine on Dieppe.. It has all 30 profiles of the churchills and 7 profiles of the Dingos ...
One thing I find strange is all the Dingos names start with a capital H except for Helen which has a small H but the rest of the name is in capitals..Now is this a typo or is it fact ...There are no pictures of Helen in the book ... Things that make you go hmmm!
Anyway I really recommend this magazine to anyone interested in Operation Jubilee..even if you don`t read French... (It even tells you how each tank was dissabled )
Keep up the great work!
csmanning
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Posted: Monday, November 15, 2010 - 10:09 AM UTC
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Link to my finished diorama! Thanks everyone for tagging along for this enjoyable ride! Thanks and all the best!
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Posted: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 - 12:54 PM UTC
Was thinking about building a Dieppe Dingo, and I noticed something while looking through this thread, most of the Dingoes seem to carry the Green-Black camo, while one image of "Hound" seems to be all green. Was there a reason for this, or did it have to do with delivery and/or version of the Dingoes given to the Calgary Regiment for the raid?

GregCloseCombat
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Posted: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 - 02:24 PM UTC
Hey this is cool! Great details. I like the scene based on the photo. Look forward to seeing the whole thing together
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Posted: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 - 02:42 PM UTC

Quoted Text

Hey this is cool! Great details. I like the scene based on the photo. Look forward to seeing the whole thing together



https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/167156&page=1
GregCloseCombat
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Posted: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 - 07:28 PM UTC
:-)