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Spiderfrommars
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Posted: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 - 10:55 AM UTC

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By the way, what gauge wire do people generally use for grab handels, I guess I could just look at it against the plastic ones and see if ti looks right but I thought I'd ask.

I found a braid of copper wire, and thought I'd undwind it and use the single pieces to make grab handels, and whatever else I can find.

And I know I'm getting into tiny details but, could I also strip a chord - from anything - and use the single wires to replicate fuel/washer fluid/elctrical lines, both for armor and auto engines?



Hi Jaredt. For the right wire diameter you should look you reference pics, not the plastic parts. Handles made in plastic are always to thick to be realistic and that's the reason why you should substitute them to improve your models.

They are different kind of wire which you should use.

You can use for exemple the inner metallic part of telephonic cables

Is very easy to bend and cheaper than the copper and the brass wires.
During my hobby career I've collected a lot of them which i keep in a big box.

You can utilize also the guitar cord. Is a little bit more expensive solution, but guitar strings are made in spring steel so they are very thin but strong. They are perfect if you would that your handles are perfectly straight . Guitar string are also ideal to reproduce antennas and thiny wire mesh frames.

You can reproduce in a very convincing way the motor cables using the thiny copper wires that you can find in electric motors (the correct term is "solenoid")

Obviously you shouldn't buy an electric motor ...just try to find a wrecked one.
Otherwise you can find very thiny wires also in common electric cables


To bend the cables I advise you to keep a good needle nose plier (a smooth jaw one could be very adequate for your needs)


You can find the best pliers in the electronic device shops or in the best hobby stores. You can use it also to bend the smaller PE parts

To cut the wire you shouldn'use the cutter. The best way to cut metal wires...is another plier, a cut plier

Is very similar to the tool which you use to separate the kit parts from the sprue.
But be very careful. Don't use the same plier for both the operations because cutting metal wires dammage the cut plier blades.

I hope this will be helpful for you

cheers
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Posted: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 - 05:46 AM UTC
Amazing! Thanks for the in-depth response!

I break strings on my acoustic guitar all the time so thats no problem to find. I'll find some old phones as well, and I've already got a few different cutters, one set thats old specifically so I do not ruin them. And I also have a smooth set of needle-nose so I'm good there, just need to find some old junk to save I guess!

Thanks again!
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Posted: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 - 10:54 AM UTC
You're always welcome Jaredt

Another tip which can i give you is how straighten metal wires that are not guitar strings (such as copper or brass wires)

You can watch three different methods in those videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apzmbRS4DG0&feature=related
As you can see is not a modeller video, but the process that you should do is just the same. You've just to roll the wire between two hard surfaces for a while and you'll can reach your goal

Another system (to be honest less accurate than the first one but easier) to straighten cables is well described in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uijTaxXuHg&feature=related

last method which you can use is this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kReKXUwFNmE&NR=1
(is the easiest but also the less precise)

I'm very glad my advises were helpful for you

Cheers
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