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Only SHERMAN TANKS Build
PantherF
Indiana, United States
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Posted: Monday, July 01, 2013 - 08:30 AM UTC
RadekZ
Warszawa, Poland
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Posted: Thursday, July 04, 2013 - 05:47 AM UTC
Hello,
I can finally say I have finished my Sherman. Maybe it's not a top class finish, but I find it decent enough to consider it done (within my skills range
So this is how it looks now (sorry for poor photo quality, but my temporary photo booth consists only of few sheets of towel and regular desk lights ):
Please provide me with some feedback what you think about the model (especially paintings/weathering) as this is only my 4th model finished and I still need to learn a lot.
Regards,
Radek
PS. Where should I upload the campaign finished model pictures?
I can finally say I have finished my Sherman. Maybe it's not a top class finish, but I find it decent enough to consider it done (within my skills range
So this is how it looks now (sorry for poor photo quality, but my temporary photo booth consists only of few sheets of towel and regular desk lights ):
Please provide me with some feedback what you think about the model (especially paintings/weathering) as this is only my 4th model finished and I still need to learn a lot.
Regards,
Radek
PS. Where should I upload the campaign finished model pictures?
MichaelSatin
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Colorado, United States
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Posted: Thursday, July 04, 2013 - 06:00 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Please provide me with some feedback what you think about the model (especially paintings/weathering) as this is only my 4th model finished and I still need to learn a lot.
Regards,
Radek
PS. Where should I upload the campaign finished model pictures?
Radek,
This is only your 4th model? We're all in trouble as you improve from here! Very nice work! You might want to look into ways to tie down your stowage, there are plenty of great ideas all around this site. The gallery is here to upload the photos.
Michael
RadekZ
Warszawa, Poland
Joined: March 12, 2013
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Posted: Thursday, July 04, 2013 - 06:24 AM UTC
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This is only your 4th model? We're all in trouble as you improve from here! Very nice work! You might want to look into ways to tie down your stowage, there are plenty of great ideas all around this site.
Michael
Thanks for good words and tips Michael! I still need to learn a lot about... subtlety in modelling . Before I came back to modelling I studied "the Internet" about various techniques of painting, weathering etc., but still with all this things in my head I sometimes overdo the effects (on this Sherman I had to wash away whole mud effects once, because they looked like if my model fell directly into dogs... you know what ).
Thundergrunt
California, United States
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Posted: Thursday, July 04, 2013 - 06:27 AM UTC
Radek
Your sherman is great for only your 4th build, I am building my 1st Armor kit. And if mine is 1/2 as good as yours I will be happy. What di you use for your weathering?? I am just at that stage right now. She looks to clean to me right now. Pics coming.
Your sherman is great for only your 4th build, I am building my 1st Armor kit. And if mine is 1/2 as good as yours I will be happy. What di you use for your weathering?? I am just at that stage right now. She looks to clean to me right now. Pics coming.
steph2102
Isere, France
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Posted: Thursday, July 04, 2013 - 06:58 AM UTC
hello, RadekZ superb job.
RadekZ
Warszawa, Poland
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Posted: Thursday, July 04, 2013 - 07:26 AM UTC
Hi Eugene,
I strongly believe you will be more than happy when your model is finished and you'll keep me ashamed
As for weathering. This is the picture of all things I used:
And now I will try to recreate the steps I performed:
1) gloss varnish under decals, decals and then gloss again;
2) I made a pin wash with Vallejo 73203 (Umber Shadow);
3) as pin wash was acrylic I followed immediately with dot filter (various of oil paints you can see to the left. In first run I skipped buff) - used some white spirit to work with dots.
4) I applied satin varnish because I repeated the dot filter technique - this time with extensive use of buff colour (that gave me some nice looking subtle streaks).
5) again varnish - this time matt followed by streaks made with AK interactive AK024 & AK069 (I used brush with thin long hair - sorry don't know what's called).
I used several layers of varnishes to secure layers I found fitting my requirements (you know, just in case, if you mess up next layer you can wash it up without damaging job well done ).
Later I made some wet effects and weathered tracks' metal parts with vallejo's and mig's rust washes (it was rather drybrushing as I knew I would spoil these effects later with mud).
And mud/dust - made with mig P033, P028 and Mirage P008 supported with AK048 Pigment Fixer.
Hope it helps you a little bit
I strongly believe you will be more than happy when your model is finished and you'll keep me ashamed
As for weathering. This is the picture of all things I used:
And now I will try to recreate the steps I performed:
1) gloss varnish under decals, decals and then gloss again;
2) I made a pin wash with Vallejo 73203 (Umber Shadow);
3) as pin wash was acrylic I followed immediately with dot filter (various of oil paints you can see to the left. In first run I skipped buff) - used some white spirit to work with dots.
4) I applied satin varnish because I repeated the dot filter technique - this time with extensive use of buff colour (that gave me some nice looking subtle streaks).
5) again varnish - this time matt followed by streaks made with AK interactive AK024 & AK069 (I used brush with thin long hair - sorry don't know what's called).
I used several layers of varnishes to secure layers I found fitting my requirements (you know, just in case, if you mess up next layer you can wash it up without damaging job well done ).
Later I made some wet effects and weathered tracks' metal parts with vallejo's and mig's rust washes (it was rather drybrushing as I knew I would spoil these effects later with mud).
And mud/dust - made with mig P033, P028 and Mirage P008 supported with AK048 Pigment Fixer.
Hope it helps you a little bit
shermaholic-king
Louisiana, United States
Joined: December 30, 2012
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Posted: Thursday, July 04, 2013 - 08:08 AM UTC
Count me in. Does this project have to be a fresh start kit? If so, no problem as I have about thirty untouched Sherman models.
vanize
Texas, United States
Joined: January 30, 2006
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Posted: Thursday, July 04, 2013 - 08:29 AM UTC
Made some progress on my Dragon firefly Vc.
decided I couldn't live with the weld line trenches and set about filling them with styrene rod and turning that into a lightly raised weld line (or just as a filler for the trench in the places the position of the weld line needed to be corrected). Also added more weld lines with smaller sized styrene strips. In both cases, they were textured/blended into the hull with liber applications of liquid plastic glue and an old xacto with the sharp tip broken off.
first pic shows the un-blended/textured rod and a couple of the trenches left unfilled:
second pic shows the end result. also removed the extra little bit of molded-on armor plate at the rear of the turret splash gaurd. I'll replace it later with more accurate representation. Oh, and I removed the sand skirt mounting plates along the bottom edge of the upper hull, which will also be replaced... eventually
decided I couldn't live with the weld line trenches and set about filling them with styrene rod and turning that into a lightly raised weld line (or just as a filler for the trench in the places the position of the weld line needed to be corrected). Also added more weld lines with smaller sized styrene strips. In both cases, they were textured/blended into the hull with liber applications of liquid plastic glue and an old xacto with the sharp tip broken off.
first pic shows the un-blended/textured rod and a couple of the trenches left unfilled:
second pic shows the end result. also removed the extra little bit of molded-on armor plate at the rear of the turret splash gaurd. I'll replace it later with more accurate representation. Oh, and I removed the sand skirt mounting plates along the bottom edge of the upper hull, which will also be replaced... eventually
Thundergrunt
California, United States
Joined: November 01, 2009
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Posted: Thursday, July 04, 2013 - 04:46 PM UTC
Radek
WoW that is nice I have only 2 colors Yellow Ochre and Raw Umber but the are (Windsor newton) Water based Oil colors. Does that mean the only use water and not odorless turpentine?? I have no Idea.
So my sherman is complete minus my attempet at a wash and maybe a try at some weathering, I really wish my crew was better I just could not get it close to being ok. But as them being first time a figures I guess they are ok. I wish the jacket was lighter like pictures I have seen and had decals for them. Oh well, but once flat coat is on calling her done. Critiques are welcomed.
WoW that is nice I have only 2 colors Yellow Ochre and Raw Umber but the are (Windsor newton) Water based Oil colors. Does that mean the only use water and not odorless turpentine?? I have no Idea.
So my sherman is complete minus my attempet at a wash and maybe a try at some weathering, I really wish my crew was better I just could not get it close to being ok. But as them being first time a figures I guess they are ok. I wish the jacket was lighter like pictures I have seen and had decals for them. Oh well, but once flat coat is on calling her done. Critiques are welcomed.
RadekZ
Warszawa, Poland
Joined: March 12, 2013
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Posted: Thursday, July 04, 2013 - 07:48 PM UTC
Eugene,
job well done. Great build so far, those tracks look brilliant. I also love the way you painted figures (something I'm still struggling with - good thing Tamiya included excess figures, so there's room for practice ).
In case of acrylics - I'm not an expert, but logic (aand google )suggests - yep, water should be OK, but I would let somebody with more experience to give you suggestions.
I would suggest the approach I used for testing premade washes or washes I created myslf - I have used some styrene sheet (in fact it was old plastic food box), made some lines and dots with exacto knife, glued some parts to it (sanded it all a little bit) - you know, just to emulate uneven surfaces. Then I used regular primer to prime the surface and covered it later with gloss varnish. Then I had an excellent training material to check washes (also filters as well). Cheap way if you don't have old spoiled kits
job well done. Great build so far, those tracks look brilliant. I also love the way you painted figures (something I'm still struggling with - good thing Tamiya included excess figures, so there's room for practice ).
In case of acrylics - I'm not an expert, but logic (aand google )suggests - yep, water should be OK, but I would let somebody with more experience to give you suggestions.
I would suggest the approach I used for testing premade washes or washes I created myslf - I have used some styrene sheet (in fact it was old plastic food box), made some lines and dots with exacto knife, glued some parts to it (sanded it all a little bit) - you know, just to emulate uneven surfaces. Then I used regular primer to prime the surface and covered it later with gloss varnish. Then I had an excellent training material to check washes (also filters as well). Cheap way if you don't have old spoiled kits
Thundergrunt
California, United States
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Posted: Saturday, July 06, 2013 - 01:58 PM UTC
Ok everyone I am just about completed, I dont think I did the was right.Though I tried the touch the lines thing and it looked like there was no paint and then the other way I felt like I was painting it. I don't lilke how the running gear came out. So I am open to tips and also when I sprayed the final flat coat the weathing on the tracks dissapeared. Anywhoo here is almost final pics. I just have to make a back drop next.
Thundergrunt
California, United States
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Posted: Saturday, July 06, 2013 - 04:39 PM UTC
GregCloseCombat
California, United States
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Posted: Saturday, July 06, 2013 - 07:27 PM UTC
Congrats Eugene! I like you got the shine off and some dirt effects on. Washes work best with enamels or non water based oils. Water doesn't flow well and usually blobs. (Not saying it can't be done the reverse), but its way easier to base paint models with acrylics and then flow the enamels/oils over that. Pick up the AK WEATHERING DVD when u get a chance. Its very good. I think luckymodel carries it for under $20.
RadekZ
Warszawa, Poland
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Posted: Saturday, July 06, 2013 - 09:22 PM UTC
Hi Eugene,
Excellent finishing and don't bother too much about this wash thingy. I ruined my first 2-3 models because of bad washes (and I used enamel oils), but always learned somenthing.
And as I said - your finishing is brilliant, so nothing to worry about
Regards,
Radek
Excellent finishing and don't bother too much about this wash thingy. I ruined my first 2-3 models because of bad washes (and I used enamel oils), but always learned somenthing.
And as I said - your finishing is brilliant, so nothing to worry about
Regards,
Radek
WARCLOUD
Jihocesky Kraj, Czech Republic
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Posted: Saturday, July 06, 2013 - 10:19 PM UTC
Wow, I missed this altogether...So many in-progress projects though, I hesitate to jump in..but that Tamiya 105mm Sherman kit that's been on my shelf for years is waving at me now....Hmmm..
IronOwl
Georgia, United States
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Posted: Sunday, July 07, 2013 - 03:47 PM UTC
Hello ALL its been awhile since ive posted so heres some photos I took with iphone Jumbos moving along have already painted and amin the process of touch up and decals.
IronOwl
Georgia, United States
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Posted: Sunday, July 07, 2013 - 03:49 PM UTC
ok don't know what happened they down loaded into my gallery fine oh well off to troubleshoot.
Sascha(Ironowl)
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IronOwl
Georgia, United States
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Posted: Monday, July 15, 2013 - 08:48 AM UTC
off to the Painting and decal section then shes finished
Sascha(Ironowl)
IronOwl
Georgia, United States
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Posted: Monday, July 15, 2013 - 08:49 AM UTC
sorry about the bad photos I am having to use my Phone camera ugh.
Sascha(Ironowl)
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steph2102
Isere, France
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Posted: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 - 03:07 AM UTC
dogfish7
Washington, United States
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Posted: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 - 09:31 AM UTC
This is, by far, one of the Best collection of different Sherman builds, I've ever witnessed! Fantastic works to all of you!!
Milites-Christi
California, United States
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Posted: Thursday, July 18, 2013 - 01:56 PM UTC
Okay, I'm in. I hope I can pull this off, since I'm starting late. I started on July 10, but just now got the pics up. This pic is my first night's work.
Milites-Christi
California, United States
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Posted: Thursday, July 18, 2013 - 02:07 PM UTC
July 13 Work - Looks like a group of TRON bikes!
July 18 Work - Will be painting lower hull and bogies separately.
July 18 Work - Will be painting lower hull and bogies separately.
PantherF
Indiana, United States
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Posted: Thursday, July 18, 2013 - 09:40 PM UTC
Gotta picture of the boxart Jerry?
Jeff
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