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Dora diorama base
Rab
Joined: October 03, 2006
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Posted: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 - 09:09 PM UTC
This is the base for the Dora that will fit in next to my Savastopol dio. The track was way too high so I decided to mount it in the base. You'll notice a fair amount of room on one side which will be for a passing armour and artillery convoy which has pulled up to gawk.
Grumpyoldman
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Posted: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 - 09:17 PM UTC
I'm amazed at the size of that kit,
and even more amazed at how fast you have progressed in building it.
and even more amazed at how fast you have progressed in building it.
Rab
Joined: October 03, 2006
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Posted: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 - 09:35 PM UTC
Every time I walk into the shed and see it, I'm amazed. I will have it completed tomorrow as the remainder of the paint just turned up,
slodder
Joined: February 22, 2002
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Posted: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 - 11:30 PM UTC
Will the armor column be on the front or back of the display?
Hot-wheels
Joined: April 28, 2007
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Posted: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 - 11:49 PM UTC
Hi Kym
All I can say is wow. That has to be the biggist kit / Dio I have ever seen or even heard of.. This will be a jaw dropping show stoper when its done. I have only one question, where in the world will you display it ? It would be a shame to have stuck in a corner somwhere where noone could see it.. If I could suggest a Museum, or a public Library.
Harry
All I can say is wow. That has to be the biggist kit / Dio I have ever seen or even heard of.. This will be a jaw dropping show stoper when its done. I have only one question, where in the world will you display it ? It would be a shame to have stuck in a corner somwhere where noone could see it.. If I could suggest a Museum, or a public Library.
Harry
210cav
Joined: February 05, 2002
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Posted: Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 12:35 AM UTC
Kym-- absolutely superb workmanship. I wish I had a shed as big as the one you are using. How big is that room?
thanks
DJ
thanks
DJ
Rab
Joined: October 03, 2006
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Posted: Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 12:54 AM UTC
Scott,
The column will be in front of the gun but about level with the top of the flatcars wheels, so I don't think it will detract from the main gun.
DJ,
The photos are taken in the workshop, which is 6 x 10 meters. The rest of the shed is the display area which is 21 x 10 meters. Between the Dora and a couple of other modelling projects, I about half way through insulating and plasterboarding the display area. Mongrel of a job for one person but it will look fantastic when finished.
........and yes, I built the shed just for modelling. It was going to be just a model warship museum but I just can't keep my hands off those big seige guns.
The column will be in front of the gun but about level with the top of the flatcars wheels, so I don't think it will detract from the main gun.
DJ,
The photos are taken in the workshop, which is 6 x 10 meters. The rest of the shed is the display area which is 21 x 10 meters. Between the Dora and a couple of other modelling projects, I about half way through insulating and plasterboarding the display area. Mongrel of a job for one person but it will look fantastic when finished.
........and yes, I built the shed just for modelling. It was going to be just a model warship museum but I just can't keep my hands off those big seige guns.
battlefoxx
Joined: June 02, 2007
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Posted: Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 05:34 AM UTC
Woah very BIG dio 
Rab
Joined: October 03, 2006
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Posted: Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 08:06 PM UTC
Well here it is finished apart from the dark washes for all the nooks and crannies. The first picture shows an unfinished Tiger I next to it.
TankCarl
Joined: May 10, 2002
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Posted: Friday, June 29, 2007 - 09:34 AM UTC
Impressive,Kym.I am devoting 2 hours a night to mine.What is your barrel length? Stock,or did you shorten it?What color do you plan for your railroad ties (sleepers)? 
JackBlock
Joined: April 13, 2007
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Posted: Friday, June 29, 2007 - 10:51 AM UTC
I know now, without a doubt, I have no area in my house for a beast of that size. Thanks for the scale check with the Tiger!
Most impressive. Thank you for sharing.
Cheers
Dave
Most impressive. Thank you for sharing.
Cheers
Dave
jimb
Joined: August 25, 2006
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Posted: Friday, June 29, 2007 - 11:22 PM UTC
First, the model & dio: that thing is HUGE!!! Very impressive.
Second, the actual gun: I've done a little looking in the Internet about these guns, and the seem to me to have been a complete waste of resources, time & manpower. They were really obsolete when the hit the field, WWI technology. If I remember correctly, they took a Battalion of men (1,000+) to operate, and were sitting ducks to aircraft. Because of that, did they have their own organic air defence elements? Were other air defence units assigned to defend them?
Jim
Second, the actual gun: I've done a little looking in the Internet about these guns, and the seem to me to have been a complete waste of resources, time & manpower. They were really obsolete when the hit the field, WWI technology. If I remember correctly, they took a Battalion of men (1,000+) to operate, and were sitting ducks to aircraft. Because of that, did they have their own organic air defence elements? Were other air defence units assigned to defend them?
Jim
Fitz
Joined: July 11, 2006
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Posted: Friday, June 29, 2007 - 11:58 PM UTC
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First, the model & dio: that thing is HUGE!!! Very impressive.
Second, the actual gun: I've done a little looking in the Internet about these guns, and the seem to me to have been a complete waste of resources, time & manpower. They were really obsolete when the hit the field, WWI technology. If I remember correctly, they took a Battalion of men (1,000+) to operate, and were sitting ducks to aircraft. Because of that, did they have their own organic air defence elements? Were other air defence units assigned to defend them?
Jim
Oh come now, what are you talking about. Besides the enormous R&D and build costs, it only took 25 rail cars and 2,000 men to support, and required the laying of special dual track to wherever it was you wanted it to go. And it did fire fewer than 50 rounds in actual combat during an active career that spanned nearly two whole weeks!
Really, Dora represents everything that was wrong with the German procurement system.
Rab
Joined: October 03, 2006
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Posted: Saturday, June 30, 2007 - 02:06 AM UTC
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Really, Dora represents everything that was wrong with the German procurement system.
But I'd sure like a real one in the back paddock. It would sure freak the neighbours out!
Carl,
I left the barrel as it came. I've only just heard of some discrepency in it's lenght and as for the sleepers, a darkened wood brown over black should look good. I'm still debating on weather to add real rock to cover the moulded ballast.
SJPONeill
Joined: April 26, 2007
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Posted: Sunday, July 01, 2007 - 02:22 PM UTC
Quoted Text
First, the model & dio: that thing is HUGE!!! Very impressive.
Second, the actual gun: I've done a little looking in the Internet about these guns, and the seem to me to have been a complete waste of resources, time & manpower. They were really obsolete when the hit the field, WWI technology. If I remember correctly, they took a Battalion of men (1,000+) to operate, and were sitting ducks to aircraft. Because of that, did they have their own organic air defence elements? Were other air defence units assigned to defend them?
Tend to agree on the waste of resources (unless of course, you have a few fortresses in need of reduction as apart of your master plan for world domination) and, yes, they each did have organic AD battalions to keep the skies clear...but think what a battery of these could have done to the southern coasts of England - bearing in mind that each shell is more potent that the RAF;s Tallboy 12,000lb bomb...
Jim
gbkirsch
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Posted: Sunday, July 01, 2007 - 02:51 PM UTC
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Well here it is finished apart from the dark washes for all the nooks and crannies.
That thing is unbeilevable!!! I can't even imagine how many hours you have into this project???
I salute you!!!
Gary
Rab
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Posted: Sunday, July 01, 2007 - 07:46 PM UTC
Well Gary, this may suprise you, but I tallied up the time spent on it so-far and it's 70 hours, including the base. The most time consuming part was the brake assemblies on the flatbed carriers, everything else are big parts.
cooperyamato
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Posted: Sunday, July 01, 2007 - 11:41 PM UTC
I live in the north east of england and got the 1/35 th dora from redcar models and hobbies a few weeks ago.Been waiting for this giant railway gun to be done at this scale for many years.
Beginning to think it would never happen, but now got this amazing kit in my hobby room. Have studied the real gun over the years when ever there has been a new article in amag or in a book.
I saw the original post on another forum of the barrel being to long but he has included the barbette in his barrel measurements the gun barrel it's self is the correct length.The barbette is also of the correct length.
Beginning to think it would never happen, but now got this amazing kit in my hobby room. Have studied the real gun over the years when ever there has been a new article in amag or in a book.
I saw the original post on another forum of the barrel being to long but he has included the barbette in his barrel measurements the gun barrel it's self is the correct length.The barbette is also of the correct length.
zemzero
Joined: May 28, 2005
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Posted: Monday, July 02, 2007 - 12:23 AM UTC
You're telling me that's a 1/35 Tiger next to the Dora?! That thing is a massive beast, I never realized it was that big. That must have been a real sight, to be next to a real one in person.
Can't wait to see what the finished project is going to look like, it'll be epic.
Can't wait to see what the finished project is going to look like, it'll be epic.
Rab
Joined: October 03, 2006
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Posted: Monday, July 02, 2007 - 01:21 AM UTC
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I saw the original post on another forum of the barrel being to long but he has included the barbette in his barrel measurements the gun barrel it's self is the correct length.The barbette is also of the correct length.
You know, it just didn't make sense that the design and production mob at Soar Art could go to such massive lenghts to produce something as well made as this kit and then get the scaled down measurements of the barrel wrong. My only complaint is that they didn't supply decals.
jimb
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Posted: Monday, July 02, 2007 - 03:38 AM UTC
Can you immigine what is sounded like when they pulled the trigger?
Jim
Jim
gbkirsch
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Posted: Monday, July 02, 2007 - 09:32 AM UTC
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Well Gary, this may suprise you, but I tallied up the time spent on it so-far and it's 70 hours, including the base.
Well Kym, that is very surprising. I have more hours than that into my 1/72 VIIC Uboat. Most of that is because I hand paint my models.
Still, an amazing model and like others here, I can't wait to see the finished build. Congratulations in advance...
Gary
armorstuv
Joined: October 21, 2005
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Posted: Monday, July 02, 2007 - 09:52 AM UTC
HOLY COW!!!!!!! That is unbelievable........................what a beautiful looking kit. Makes wish that I could build that good.
AJLaFleche
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Posted: Monday, July 02, 2007 - 10:24 AM UTC
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Impressive,Kym.I am devoting 2 hours a night to mine.What is your barrel length? Stock,or did you shorten it?What color do you plan for your railroad ties (sleepers)?
We gonna see this at Baycon?
SJPONeill
Joined: April 26, 2007
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Posted: Monday, July 02, 2007 - 01:02 PM UTC
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Well Gary, this may suprise you, but I tallied up the time spent on it so-far and it's 70 hours, including the base.
From working on my Dora, and taking absolutely nothing away from Kym's work, it is actually quite a simple kit. While it has a lot of parts, most of these are finer detail and not that fiddley (less some of the suspension buit I have big thumbs). I am quite surprised how quickly I am proceeding with Dora: cost and # of parts obviously don't relate directly to complexity and time. Certainly I have yet to come across any part of the construction that is even close to being as fiddly as some of the socalled working control surfaces in the big Trumpeter aircraft.
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