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Jackal Arrives
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Posted: Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 07:43 PM UTC
Hi guys
Just browsing the army website and found this , looks pretty cool, does anyone have any other pictures of it?? Nick
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Posted: Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 10:15 PM UTC
What about these ?





Some info HERE

Earlier (trial ?) vehicles (no add-on armor on the front) :




HTH
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Posted: Friday, April 18, 2008 - 12:19 AM UTC
Hi Frenchy
Thanks very much, some very nice pics. Id love to scratch it but I fear that my skills are extremly low when it comes to scratching having only done very basic things before lol!! Does anyone know which company makes it, is it landrover? Thanks, Nick
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Posted: Friday, April 18, 2008 - 12:45 AM UTC
Nick,
Looking through Google's pages I've come across this info: Supercat HMT 400 truck.
http://defenceoftherealm.blogspot.com/2008/04/when-is-truck-not-truck.html
Very Interesting vehicle (and text on that link)
hope to have helped
Tom
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Posted: Friday, April 18, 2008 - 12:56 AM UTC
Hi Tom
Thanks for the link, very interesting to read! Nick
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Posted: Friday, April 18, 2008 - 12:57 AM UTC
The Jackal is made by DML !! (= Devonport Management Limited which is a Plymouth based company) It's indeed based on the Supacat HMT 400 truck.

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harrier1
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Posted: Friday, April 18, 2008 - 01:02 AM UTC

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The Jackal is made by DML !!



Lol, I wish, dragon did, if they made this theyd probably make other british vehicles that we modern brit modellers are so desperately in need of!!!

Seriously, thanks for your help. Nick
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Posted: Friday, April 18, 2008 - 02:22 AM UTC
Another pic from the Land Rover thread earlier this month.
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Very cool looking vehicle, hard to hide in however, a bit exposed.
Bill
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Posted: Friday, April 18, 2008 - 03:34 AM UTC
Nice truck to scratch right ??
harrier1
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Posted: Friday, April 18, 2008 - 04:54 AM UTC
Hi guys
Bill, thanks for the picture, as you say, looks cool, not great for hiding in!!
Sebastien, Im sure it would be, even with my very limited experience Im beginning to want to give it a go!! Unfortunately Im not sure if it'll happen lol Nick
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Posted: Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 06:53 AM UTC
Well Nick
just give it a try then you will learn like me and other
It is just styrene sheets and rods at the end of the day
Come on Nick join the club and have some fun
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Posted: Sunday, April 20, 2008 - 05:20 AM UTC
I think its an awesome looking wagon bit like a landy WMIK on steroids.
harrier1
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Posted: Monday, April 21, 2008 - 06:17 AM UTC
Hi guys

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Come on Nick join the club and have some fun


Id love to but I'll leave it for a while!!!!!!!!!


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I think its an awesome looking wagon bit like a landy WMIK on steroids.


I see what you mean Scott!!!

Nick
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Posted: Friday, January 22, 2010 - 02:16 AM UTC
Australian version of the Jackal? It was refered to as the "Nary" on the ADOD site.
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Posted: Friday, January 22, 2010 - 05:39 AM UTC
Hay nick just to let you know accurate armour is releasing a resin kit of the jackal and coyote very soon. also i saw a pic of a danish special forces version in left hand drive i will try and find it??
sapper159
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Posted: Friday, January 22, 2010 - 06:16 AM UTC
Guys...... if you google SUPACAT you can get the link straight to the jackel manufactorers site, it gives pictures and measurements etc...also to MoDs website gives you access to lots of modern Brit equipment photos, including the jackel, (mod.uk/defenceinternet/defencenews) also news and links to interesting stuff.
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Posted: Friday, January 22, 2010 - 08:20 AM UTC
Vehicle specification page

http://www.supacat.com/products/hmt/hmt-400/specification/

It would make a very nice kit. Right up Trumpeter's or Hobbyboss's alley... wink, wink!

Hisham
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Posted: Friday, January 22, 2010 - 09:34 AM UTC
[quote]Another pic from the Land Rover thread earlier this month.
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Very cool looking vehicle, hard to hide in however, a bit exposed.
Bill[/quote

i believe its not supposed to be hidden, mostly its used by the fire support group, they provide fire support for boots on the ground, as sthey are normaly on the high ground.
Boggie
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Posted: Friday, January 22, 2010 - 10:16 AM UTC
Gog007
What I meant by that was that the troops inside must feel a bit exposed as there isn't a lot between you and incoming rounds. While the rest of the world is going to MRAP's ,FRAG 6 HMMWV's and Strykers these look a little thin skinned. Having said that I realize that these are not fighting in a enclosed urban environment and I bet these can go where the other monster trucks can't. I have always liked the role of Land Rovers, stripped down HMMWV's and the like, a different kind of fighting.
Cheers
Bill
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Posted: Friday, January 22, 2010 - 03:50 PM UTC
The NARY is the SASR version to replace the expired LRPV's. It will be in both 6 and 4 wheel formats and is named after WO2 Dave Nary who was an SASR Warrant Officer Killed in a training accident in Kuwait or Dubai. Dave was akeen modeller in 35th and 1/6th an frequented the 1/6th Forums as TF 64. I new Dave from early in his career and this is a fitting tribute to a great soldier.
Cheers
Al
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Posted: Friday, January 22, 2010 - 09:51 PM UTC
hi boggie
we have gone down the mrap route with mastiff, coyotte etc, the jackal from what i have read it is supposed, to go mainly cross country and protect the flanks of convoys or provide fire support, there was a tv programme that showed them in use, but i can't remember which one, they have added armour to the driver and passenger compartment as your photos showed
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Posted: Saturday, January 23, 2010 - 12:52 AM UTC
Al
This vehicle is such a strange evolution from the LRPV's in some ways. The LRPV were an interesting and unique adaptation from the Land Rover/Perentie platforms customized to suit the unique roll of the SASR. i guess the SUAPCAT vehicle is custom built for the task and in that way more user friendly. I would think that SUAPCAT had a lot of input from troopers that were to use them, hence their unusual design? How different are the British and Aussie versions if any?
Thanks for your insights and RIP to your friend.
gogs007
After I wrote you I searched and found many articles about the politics involved around the SUPACAT contract, don't want to go there. I too saw a video showing the Jackals in Afghanistan and they used in the way you described. Lets hope that the Accurate Armours offering will be accurate and less expensive than usual.
Regards
Bill
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Posted: Saturday, January 23, 2010 - 01:06 AM UTC
I quite like the Extenda version witch changes the 4 wheel version to a 6 wheel version by adding an extra axle and flat-bed, though to be honest I can't really see it being used that much, cos if you need a 6 wheel version you might as wellbuy the 6 wheel version.
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Posted: Saturday, January 23, 2010 - 04:38 AM UTC
boggie
i think the chances of a reasonably priced kit from accurate are pretty remote, but here's hoping.
regards
gordon
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Posted: Saturday, January 23, 2010 - 10:07 AM UTC
I have not seen any pictures from Accurate Armour, but they are making the kit inconjunction with Supacat. The 'bare' Jackal is in service with Special Forces and I have included a link to my walk round below. Price...I shudder to think!

http://www.militarymodelling.com/albums/member_album.asp?a=6991

[img]http://www.militarymodelling.com/sites/1/images/member_albums/35435/jackal.jpg[img]

I hope this helps

Brian
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