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Defenders of Pointe-du-Hoc (1:35)

lespauljames

Joined: January 06, 2007
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Posted: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 - 09:45 AM UTC
just take your time mate and i offer full assistance

youngc

Joined: June 05, 2007
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Posted: Saturday, August 16, 2008 - 12:38 AM UTC
Hi all,
Quite a bit of progress today.
Diorama Base


The sidewalls were built up further and the roof glued on. Once dry, the milliput was brought out to texture the plasticard, to make it look like damaged concrete. Can you see the section blown open revealing the re-enforcing metal bars? Does it look realistic so far? In the photos the milliput looks like a blob of poo and it's hard to see the texturing and shell damage. Tomorrow I will sand the edges, make everything nice and square and prime it. Hopefully the details will come up then.
German grenadier


Nothing much done. Legs are awaiting shadows/highlights and the tunic is waiting for a second coat. That's the thing with Tamiya acrylic, to get a smooth finish you must layer the paint on in 2-3 thin coats.
German gunner

Came up really nicely after priming.
Chas
Quite a bit of progress today.
Diorama Base


The sidewalls were built up further and the roof glued on. Once dry, the milliput was brought out to texture the plasticard, to make it look like damaged concrete. Can you see the section blown open revealing the re-enforcing metal bars? Does it look realistic so far? In the photos the milliput looks like a blob of poo and it's hard to see the texturing and shell damage. Tomorrow I will sand the edges, make everything nice and square and prime it. Hopefully the details will come up then.
German grenadier


Nothing much done. Legs are awaiting shadows/highlights and the tunic is waiting for a second coat. That's the thing with Tamiya acrylic, to get a smooth finish you must layer the paint on in 2-3 thin coats.
German gunner

Came up really nicely after priming.
Chas

cheyenne

Joined: January 05, 2005
KitMaker: 2,185 posts
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Posted: Saturday, August 16, 2008 - 12:56 AM UTC
Chas , looks good. Nice job scratchin the Tobruk pit !! The figs are painting up nicely also.
Keep at it, the build is taking on more shape in a good direction.
Glenn
Keep at it, the build is taking on more shape in a good direction.
Glenn

youngc

Joined: June 05, 2007
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Posted: Saturday, August 16, 2008 - 03:17 AM UTC
Thanks Glenn,
Just wish I had more hours in a day...
Chas
Just wish I had more hours in a day...
Chas

martyncrowther

Joined: September 12, 2007
KitMaker: 1,548 posts
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Posted: Saturday, August 16, 2008 - 03:56 AM UTC
great progress chas! love the bonker!
keep it up!
yer we need 50 hour days dont we?
keep it up!
yer we need 50 hour days dont we?


210cav

Joined: February 05, 2002
KitMaker: 6,149 posts
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Posted: Saturday, August 16, 2008 - 04:15 AM UTC
Looking good, keep it up.

youngc

Joined: June 05, 2007
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Posted: Saturday, August 16, 2008 - 02:50 PM UTC
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great progress chas! love the bonker!
It's enough to make me go bonkers

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yer we need 50 hour days dont we?![]()
Sure do.
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Looking good, keep it up.
Thanks mate.
Chas

youngc

Joined: June 05, 2007
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Posted: Sunday, August 17, 2008 - 12:47 AM UTC
Well another day gone and a bit of stuff done on the Tobruk pit. I also had time to do a little figure painting but nothing worth photographing.
Diorama Base

Unfortunately, I didn't get to the stage of sanding & priming but that's ok... there's always next weekend.
Chas
Diorama Base

Unfortunately, I didn't get to the stage of sanding & priming but that's ok... there's always next weekend.
Chas

lespauljames

Joined: January 06, 2007
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Posted: Sunday, August 17, 2008 - 01:15 AM UTC
coming along v nicely mate:d

youngc

Joined: June 05, 2007
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Posted: Sunday, August 17, 2008 - 01:35 AM UTC
Thanks Jimmy,
It still looks like a blob of poo, I can't wait to prime it.
Chas
It still looks like a blob of poo, I can't wait to prime it.
Chas

lespauljames

Joined: January 06, 2007
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Posted: Sunday, August 17, 2008 - 04:39 AM UTC
no its looking great,
honest!


kiwibelg

Joined: August 09, 2005
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Posted: Sunday, August 17, 2008 - 10:06 AM UTC
Hi Chas,
Jumped a little late onto this thread mate, your progress so far is looking excellent!
I like the detail you have given to the bunker, adding the opened areas depicting the steel inners is a nice touch!
Keep up the good work mate
Cheers,
Shay
Jumped a little late onto this thread mate, your progress so far is looking excellent!
I like the detail you have given to the bunker, adding the opened areas depicting the steel inners is a nice touch!
Keep up the good work mate
Cheers,
Shay


martyncrowther

Joined: September 12, 2007
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Posted: Sunday, August 17, 2008 - 11:02 AM UTC
great progress i want to see it finished the figures are comming on great!


youngc

Joined: June 05, 2007
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Posted: Sunday, August 17, 2008 - 10:25 PM UTC
Thankyou all for the nice comments.
No worries at all, I'm just grateful for you stopping by.
Friday night is getting closer...
Chas
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Jumped a little late onto this thread mate...
No worries at all, I'm just grateful for you stopping by.
Friday night is getting closer...
Chas
Posted: Monday, August 18, 2008 - 12:32 AM UTC
Hi Chas. Good progress. The milliput job on the bunker looks great. Im sure that´ll give an excellent concrete effect. Maybe you should cover the plastic frame on the mouth of the bunker also .... this will be too smooth when painted??


youngc

Joined: June 05, 2007
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Posted: Monday, August 18, 2008 - 01:37 AM UTC
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...Maybe you should cover the plastic frame on the mouth of the bunker also .... this will be too smooth when painted??![]()
Definately, I almost forgot about that! I also have some extra detailing to do around the ring. Thanks for jogging my memory.
Thanks again for your feedback mate,
Chas

John_B

Joined: September 04, 2007
KitMaker: 430 posts
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Posted: Monday, August 18, 2008 - 08:30 AM UTC
hello chas
i just realised that seeing this topic a few weeks ago inspired me to build my bunker dio.
it was the verlinden picture that did the trick
great build so far. i am keeping a close eye at this.
ik realiseer mij net dat deze topic mij heeft geinspireerd om mijn bunker dio te maken.
het was de verlinden foto.
prachtig werk tot nu toe. ik blijf dit zeker volgen.
it is nice to speak 2 languages......aint it.
het is leuk 2 talen te spreken .......niet dan.
greets
john
i just realised that seeing this topic a few weeks ago inspired me to build my bunker dio.
it was the verlinden picture that did the trick
great build so far. i am keeping a close eye at this.
ik realiseer mij net dat deze topic mij heeft geinspireerd om mijn bunker dio te maken.
het was de verlinden foto.
prachtig werk tot nu toe. ik blijf dit zeker volgen.
it is nice to speak 2 languages......aint it.
het is leuk 2 talen te spreken .......niet dan.
greets
john

marsiascout

Joined: March 24, 2008
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Posted: Monday, August 18, 2008 - 08:42 PM UTC
Sometimes it is.
Soms wel
Lars
Soms wel

Lars

youngc

Joined: June 05, 2007
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Posted: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 - 12:02 AM UTC
Hi John,
Thanks and good luck with your diorama.
I don't speak Dutch, I just use an online translator! I didn't realise you spoke English too...
Thanks for stopping by,
Chas
Thanks and good luck with your diorama.
I don't speak Dutch, I just use an online translator! I didn't realise you spoke English too...
Thanks for stopping by,
Chas

AmiPolizeiFunk

Joined: July 25, 2008
KitMaker: 101 posts
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Posted: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 - 02:22 AM UTC
Keep up the great work. Both bunker and nade-tossing Gren look smashing!
Point-du-Hoc is such a dramatic setting and story. Up the cliffs, Rangers lead the way! Anybody know if there was any actual film footage taken, and where I can view it?
Cheers
-Ami
Point-du-Hoc is such a dramatic setting and story. Up the cliffs, Rangers lead the way! Anybody know if there was any actual film footage taken, and where I can view it?
Cheers
-Ami

FLiPSiDE

Joined: October 08, 2007
KitMaker: 75 posts
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Posted: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 - 04:09 AM UTC
There was a show on History channel about the rangers tanking Pointe du Hoc. Looks like it was just on recently but here is a link to the history channel page (they play it every few weeks).
http://www.thehistorychannel.co.uk/site/tv_guide/full_details/Conflict/programme_3016.php
Looking good Chas!
Here is some good video footage of Pointe du hoc: http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=XvhhOZy4r8w
(check out the video at the 58 second mark specifically for footage of the machine gun pit).
One thing I wanted to point out (and I hate to) is I believe the machine gun pit(s) would be back a bit more from the cliff tops. As the machine guns were used in conjunction with the barbed wire fence to stop anyone who reaches the top. As the main strategical importance of this area was for it's prime location for artillery. The Rangers mission was to get to the cliff tops of Pointe du Hoc to knock out the artillery pieces which had been emplaced there, as from Pointe du Hoc the Germans had an excellent vantage point to site in on any attempted landings on the nearby coasts.
Here is a good overview shot of Pointe du Hoc taken recently: http://www.worldofstock.com/closeups/PHI1891.php
Although (as I'm sure you know) once the Rangers get to the top they find it defended (by German soldiers tossing grenades over the side and by the emplaced maching guns,etc but without the heavy guns since they had been removed from their original positions and hidden in an orchard back aways to prevent them from being knocked out during the air attacks. Of course with Rangers being Rangers they find them, knock them out, and then have to hold out back at the Pointe for awhile (while the Germans were being reinforced and taking their toll).
Of course either way the diorama is looking good and I understand the limitations in space when working on one (so people will know what they are looking at either way). Keep up the good work and I'll keep following along
http://www.thehistorychannel.co.uk/site/tv_guide/full_details/Conflict/programme_3016.php
Looking good Chas!

Here is some good video footage of Pointe du hoc: http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=XvhhOZy4r8w
(check out the video at the 58 second mark specifically for footage of the machine gun pit).
One thing I wanted to point out (and I hate to) is I believe the machine gun pit(s) would be back a bit more from the cliff tops. As the machine guns were used in conjunction with the barbed wire fence to stop anyone who reaches the top. As the main strategical importance of this area was for it's prime location for artillery. The Rangers mission was to get to the cliff tops of Pointe du Hoc to knock out the artillery pieces which had been emplaced there, as from Pointe du Hoc the Germans had an excellent vantage point to site in on any attempted landings on the nearby coasts.
Here is a good overview shot of Pointe du Hoc taken recently: http://www.worldofstock.com/closeups/PHI1891.php
Although (as I'm sure you know) once the Rangers get to the top they find it defended (by German soldiers tossing grenades over the side and by the emplaced maching guns,etc but without the heavy guns since they had been removed from their original positions and hidden in an orchard back aways to prevent them from being knocked out during the air attacks. Of course with Rangers being Rangers they find them, knock them out, and then have to hold out back at the Pointe for awhile (while the Germans were being reinforced and taking their toll).
Of course either way the diorama is looking good and I understand the limitations in space when working on one (so people will know what they are looking at either way). Keep up the good work and I'll keep following along


youngc

Joined: June 05, 2007
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Posted: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 12:13 AM UTC
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There was a show on History channel about the rangers tanking Pointe du Hoc. Looks like it was just on recently but here is a link to the history channel page (they play it every few weeks).
http://www.thehistorychannel.co.uk/site/tv_guide/full_details/Conflict/programme_3016.php
Too bad I don't have the history channel (or foxtel). Otherwise, it would have been interesting to see. Thanks anyway.
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Looking good Chas!
Here is some good video footage of Pointe du hoc: http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=XvhhOZy4r8w
(check out the video at the 58 second mark specifically for footage of the machine gun pit)
Interesting, thanks.
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One thing I wanted to point out (and I hate to) is I believe the machine gun pit(s) would be back a bit more from the cliff tops. As the machine guns were used in conjunction with the barbed wire fence to stop anyone who reaches the top. As the main strategical importance of this area was for it's prime location for artillery. The Rangers mission was to get to the cliff tops of Pointe du Hoc to knock out the artillery pieces which had been emplaced there, as from Pointe du Hoc the Germans had an excellent vantage point to site in on any attempted landings on the nearby coasts.
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Of course either way the diorama is looking good and I understand the limitations in space when working on one (so people will know what they are looking at either way). Keep up the good work and I'll keep following along![]()
I'm not so sure. Official and eyewitness reports state that this particular MG was able to fire down at the troops on the beach. It must have been pretty close to the edge if it could sweep the cliff base with fire. Also, the MG position was eventually blown OFF the side of the cliff by naval guns. As the guns were able to bite chunks out of the cliff face, this is evidence that the MG was pretty close to the edge. It probably was a few metres further from the cliff than what I have done, but as you said there is a space limitation.
Thanks for your thought provoking comment! I'm really grateful for the amount of support you are all giving me throughout the build so far.
Chas

spaarndammer

Joined: January 28, 2007
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Posted: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 02:46 AM UTC
Hi Chas,
nice to see your dio is getting more beautiful everytime I hit the internet. I really like the iron protruding from the damaged concrete. Looking forward to see how the figures will become.
Jelger
nice to see your dio is getting more beautiful everytime I hit the internet. I really like the iron protruding from the damaged concrete. Looking forward to see how the figures will become.

Jelger

youngc

Joined: June 05, 2007
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Posted: Saturday, August 23, 2008 - 12:45 AM UTC
Not much progress today as I was at WASMex, Western Australia Scale Modelling expo.
Diorama Base

I did manage to do some work on the opening.
Still to come, groundwork, priming, figure painting......
Chas
Diorama Base

I did manage to do some work on the opening.
Still to come, groundwork, priming, figure painting......
Chas

youngc

Joined: June 05, 2007
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Posted: Sunday, August 24, 2008 - 03:10 AM UTC
Diorama Base



Some progress on the wooden walls of the trench. I used balsa wood again.
As you can see, I am taping up the base ready to begin the groundwork.
Chas



Some progress on the wooden walls of the trench. I used balsa wood again.
As you can see, I am taping up the base ready to begin the groundwork.
Chas
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