Righty-o.
Diorama Base
More work on the dio base today. Using my collection of stones, pebbles, saw-dust, broken-up plaster and home made static grass, I made up my groundwork concoction. To this mixture I then added a drop of acrylic brown paint, a drop of glue and about 20ml of water. I gave it a mix, and started layering it onto the diorama. I'll let the pictures tell the rest.
As you can see, the slush on the right hand side is still setting, therefore it looks a bit different to the rest. Once it has dried it should look the same as the left side. I got half way through working on the cliff face when "dinner" was called.
Enjoy your weekend,
Chas
Dioramas
Do you love dioramas & vignettes? We sure do.
Do you love dioramas & vignettes? We sure do.
Hosted by Darren Baker, Mario Matijasic
Defenders of Pointe-du-Hoc (1:35)
youngc
Western Australia, Australia
Joined: June 05, 2007
KitMaker: 2,166 posts
Armorama: 1,080 posts
Joined: June 05, 2007
KitMaker: 2,166 posts
Armorama: 1,080 posts
Posted: Saturday, August 30, 2008 - 03:28 AM UTC
Belt_Fed
New Jersey, United States
Joined: February 02, 2008
KitMaker: 1,388 posts
Armorama: 1,325 posts
Joined: February 02, 2008
KitMaker: 1,388 posts
Armorama: 1,325 posts
Posted: Saturday, August 30, 2008 - 04:07 AM UTC
its lookin great, but i have one question. The concrete, at least on my computer, looks on the green side. Am i corect about this?
youngc
Western Australia, Australia
Joined: June 05, 2007
KitMaker: 2,166 posts
Armorama: 1,080 posts
Joined: June 05, 2007
KitMaker: 2,166 posts
Armorama: 1,080 posts
Posted: Saturday, August 30, 2008 - 04:20 AM UTC
Hi mate, you are right, but don't worry! The whole base will eventually be primed and painted!
Chas
Chas
HONEYCUT
Victoria, Australia
Joined: May 07, 2003
KitMaker: 4,002 posts
Armorama: 2,947 posts
Joined: May 07, 2003
KitMaker: 4,002 posts
Armorama: 2,947 posts
Posted: Saturday, August 30, 2008 - 12:20 PM UTC
Looking good Chas. In future I'd recommend having a peruse of a local model railway shop and see if they have a stand full of veneer strips and basswood? You will find the variety and thickness and grain quality superior to balsa, especially for things requiring more strength like your wooden posts.
I like the base dynamics, especially the open trench at the rear
Cheers
Brad
I like the base dynamics, especially the open trench at the rear
Cheers
Brad
youngc
Western Australia, Australia
Joined: June 05, 2007
KitMaker: 2,166 posts
Armorama: 1,080 posts
Joined: June 05, 2007
KitMaker: 2,166 posts
Armorama: 1,080 posts
Posted: Monday, September 01, 2008 - 02:30 AM UTC
Thanks Brad, I will look for some of this wood next time I visit my local hobby store.
Just a quick update on the groundwork:
Chas
Just a quick update on the groundwork:
Chas
210cav
Virginia, United States
Joined: February 05, 2002
KitMaker: 6,149 posts
Armorama: 4,573 posts
Joined: February 05, 2002
KitMaker: 6,149 posts
Armorama: 4,573 posts
Posted: Monday, September 01, 2008 - 03:18 AM UTC
Chas-- looking good! Keep up the great work.
DJ
DJ
jccraemer
North Carolina, United States
Joined: December 24, 2007
KitMaker: 462 posts
Armorama: 262 posts
Joined: December 24, 2007
KitMaker: 462 posts
Armorama: 262 posts
Posted: Monday, September 01, 2008 - 04:24 AM UTC
nice work on the dio can't wait to see how it turns out, I'll be looking forward to it. sorry I'd didn't catch this thread earlier
kiwibelg
Oost-Vlaanderen, Belgium
Joined: August 09, 2005
KitMaker: 939 posts
Armorama: 429 posts
Joined: August 09, 2005
KitMaker: 939 posts
Armorama: 429 posts
Posted: Monday, September 01, 2008 - 05:42 AM UTC
Hi Chas,
Your base is really starting to look the part digger
Will you be giving the groundwork some washes at all?
Cheers,
Shay
Your base is really starting to look the part digger
Will you be giving the groundwork some washes at all?
Cheers,
Shay
youngc
Western Australia, Australia
Joined: June 05, 2007
KitMaker: 2,166 posts
Armorama: 1,080 posts
Joined: June 05, 2007
KitMaker: 2,166 posts
Armorama: 1,080 posts
Posted: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 - 12:36 AM UTC
Thanks DJ, and John, no problems.
Shay, thanks mate. I will be airbrushing the groundwork then will do some washes.
Chas
Shay, thanks mate. I will be airbrushing the groundwork then will do some washes.
Chas
slodder
North Carolina, United States
Joined: February 22, 2002
KitMaker: 11,718 posts
Armorama: 7,138 posts
Joined: February 22, 2002
KitMaker: 11,718 posts
Armorama: 7,138 posts
Posted: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 - 12:43 AM UTC
Chas
Very nice build. The cliff affect 'makes' it. The techniques are well executed.
Very nice build. The cliff affect 'makes' it. The techniques are well executed.
jba
Rhone, France
Joined: November 04, 2005
KitMaker: 1,845 posts
Armorama: 777 posts
Joined: November 04, 2005
KitMaker: 1,845 posts
Armorama: 777 posts
Posted: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 - 12:48 AM UTC
uh..looks okay so far Chas, but will you keep on the borders like that or will they be covered with groundwork? like this it does a kitty litter diorama if you see what i mean ..
youngc
Western Australia, Australia
Joined: June 05, 2007
KitMaker: 2,166 posts
Armorama: 1,080 posts
Joined: June 05, 2007
KitMaker: 2,166 posts
Armorama: 1,080 posts
Posted: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 - 01:30 AM UTC
Quoted Text
uh..looks okay so far Chas, but will you keep on the borders like that or will they be covered with groundwork? like this it does a kitty litter diorama if you see what i mean ..
What the hell are you on about Jean? Seriously I don't know what you are talking about, me no understand. Please explain...
Chas
guygantic
Antwerpen, Belgium
Joined: August 19, 2006
KitMaker: 7,084 posts
Armorama: 970 posts
Joined: August 19, 2006
KitMaker: 7,084 posts
Armorama: 970 posts
Posted: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 - 01:42 AM UTC
Chas, I believe JBA points at the balsa edges of your diorama. Are you going to add groundwork on these too ? Now it looks moreless like a box you build your diorama in. But it does not disturb me at all. Finished in a soft or dark color it will turn out nicely. Great work so far.
I noticed a barb wire on one of your pics, but isn't the wire too thick ? Will you add the rocks the Rangers had to climb ?
Greetz ! G.
I noticed a barb wire on one of your pics, but isn't the wire too thick ? Will you add the rocks the Rangers had to climb ?
Greetz ! G.
jba
Rhone, France
Joined: November 04, 2005
KitMaker: 1,845 posts
Armorama: 777 posts
Joined: November 04, 2005
KitMaker: 1,845 posts
Armorama: 777 posts
Posted: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 - 02:02 AM UTC
Yep Guy is right -sorry I should make myself clearer but my occasions of writing/speaking English were thin lately
indeed these are really too thick -and no matter how dark you paint them. I had the same issue with my Sokol dio, and the trick was definitely to put some groundcover on the top of those borders and then to trim carefully with a blade before painting them.
besides if you keep the dio the way it is, you may have a problem with the base near the ground which will be larger than the diorama upper parts (see the small inserted pic).
the "kitty litter box" diorama refers to those dioramas whose borders are actually higher than the scene itself, it's really one of the capital sins of diorama making methinks!
indeed these are really too thick -and no matter how dark you paint them. I had the same issue with my Sokol dio, and the trick was definitely to put some groundcover on the top of those borders and then to trim carefully with a blade before painting them.
besides if you keep the dio the way it is, you may have a problem with the base near the ground which will be larger than the diorama upper parts (see the small inserted pic).
the "kitty litter box" diorama refers to those dioramas whose borders are actually higher than the scene itself, it's really one of the capital sins of diorama making methinks!
lespauljames
England - South West, United Kingdom
Joined: January 06, 2007
KitMaker: 3,661 posts
Armorama: 2,764 posts
Joined: January 06, 2007
KitMaker: 3,661 posts
Armorama: 2,764 posts
Posted: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 - 02:13 AM UTC
Chas this is coming along immensly, the groundwork texture is fantastic , how are your fighures?
youngc
Western Australia, Australia
Joined: June 05, 2007
KitMaker: 2,166 posts
Armorama: 1,080 posts
Joined: June 05, 2007
KitMaker: 2,166 posts
Armorama: 1,080 posts
Posted: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 - 02:00 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Finished in a soft or dark color it will turn out nicely....
Yea I am planning to paint the wood black.
Quoted Text
I noticed a barb wire on one of your pics, but isn't the wire too thick?
Maybe. I will post some clearer pictures soon so you can make better judgement.
Quoted Text
Will you add the rocks the Rangers had to climb ?
Maybe
Jean, ahhh I understand.
Quoted Text
...the trick was definitely to put some groundcover on the top of those borders and then to trim carefully with a blade before painting them
....the "kitty litter box" diorama refers to those dioramas whose borders are actually higher than the scene itself, it's really one of the capital sins of diorama making methinks!
I shall do what you have suggested. Good tips mate. Thanks.
James, figures are resting. I get so consumed in groundwork that I don't touch the figures for weeks!
Chas
guygantic
Antwerpen, Belgium
Joined: August 19, 2006
KitMaker: 7,084 posts
Armorama: 970 posts
Joined: August 19, 2006
KitMaker: 7,084 posts
Armorama: 970 posts
Posted: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 - 05:18 AM UTC
I know your skills Chas, it will turn out just great ! G.
youngc
Western Australia, Australia
Joined: June 05, 2007
KitMaker: 2,166 posts
Armorama: 1,080 posts
Joined: June 05, 2007
KitMaker: 2,166 posts
Armorama: 1,080 posts
Posted: Saturday, September 06, 2008 - 02:11 AM UTC
Thanks Guy, I hope so...
Well after a hammering from JBA, I've cleaned up my act and can now seek forgiveness for my diorama sins.
I have also airbrushed some tones to get the soil colour accurate for Pointe-du-Hoc. I still need to work on the yellow and buff tones (plus shadows) for the cliff face.
Hopefully I'll get some more work done tomorrow,
Chas
Well after a hammering from JBA, I've cleaned up my act and can now seek forgiveness for my diorama sins.
I have also airbrushed some tones to get the soil colour accurate for Pointe-du-Hoc. I still need to work on the yellow and buff tones (plus shadows) for the cliff face.
Hopefully I'll get some more work done tomorrow,
Chas
Urutu_
Albania
Joined: April 21, 2006
KitMaker: 216 posts
Armorama: 215 posts
Joined: April 21, 2006
KitMaker: 216 posts
Armorama: 215 posts
Posted: Saturday, September 06, 2008 - 05:29 AM UTC
Amazing!!!
Folowing up!!
Marcelo
Folowing up!!
Marcelo
jba
Rhone, France
Joined: November 04, 2005
KitMaker: 1,845 posts
Armorama: 777 posts
Joined: November 04, 2005
KitMaker: 1,845 posts
Armorama: 777 posts
Posted: Saturday, September 06, 2008 - 06:43 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Well after a hammering from JBA, I've cleaned up my act and can now seek forgiveness for my diorama sins.
you know adjusting my effects is certainly the very big thing I still have to learn from the English language.
Anyway, looks veery good!
JB
lespauljames
England - South West, United Kingdom
Joined: January 06, 2007
KitMaker: 3,661 posts
Armorama: 2,764 posts
Joined: January 06, 2007
KitMaker: 3,661 posts
Armorama: 2,764 posts
Posted: Saturday, September 06, 2008 - 06:49 AM UTC
i wish i had the patience to stick to projects as much as you:(
brilliant groundwork, makes my attempts look like childs work
brilliant groundwork, makes my attempts look like childs work
youngc
Western Australia, Australia
Joined: June 05, 2007
KitMaker: 2,166 posts
Armorama: 1,080 posts
Joined: June 05, 2007
KitMaker: 2,166 posts
Armorama: 1,080 posts
Posted: Sunday, September 07, 2008 - 12:45 AM UTC
Quoted Text
you know adjusting my effects is certainly the very big thing I still have to learn from the English language.
Anyway, looks veery good!
JB
No worries mate, I am really finding your feedback most helpful. I shouldn't be complaining about your English since my French is shocking.
'Rapide, appelez l'ambulance, ma grand-mère a été frappé par la foudre!'
James, thanks for the compliment, however, don't run yourself down and my advice, don't work on more than two models at one time. You will develop a preference while the others sit there unfinished for months, years...
Diorama Base
Colours have been altered slightly, but there is still work to be done.
I have laid down some grass, patches shorter grass (I used the common railway grass for this) and long grass (made from dolls hair, similar to hemp/jute twine). Do not be alarmed by the fluro colour of the short grass, this will be painted.
This is how I did the grass:
A bit of PVA wood glue applied via old paintbrush.
Common railway static grass.
Take a pinch in your tweezers.
Press onto the glue.
LONGER GRASS:
Pictures can do the talking, that's all from me this weekend,
Chas
210cav
Virginia, United States
Joined: February 05, 2002
KitMaker: 6,149 posts
Armorama: 4,573 posts
Joined: February 05, 2002
KitMaker: 6,149 posts
Armorama: 4,573 posts
Posted: Sunday, September 07, 2008 - 01:37 AM UTC
Chas-- continued great work!
DJ
DJ
John_B
Limburg, Netherlands
Joined: September 04, 2007
KitMaker: 430 posts
Armorama: 26 posts
Joined: September 04, 2007
KitMaker: 430 posts
Armorama: 26 posts
Posted: Sunday, September 07, 2008 - 01:41 AM UTC
looks great to me chas.
keep up the good work mate.
greets
john
keep up the good work mate.
greets
john
thomokiwi
Christchurch, New Zealand
Joined: January 11, 2006
KitMaker: 438 posts
Armorama: 359 posts
Joined: January 11, 2006
KitMaker: 438 posts
Armorama: 359 posts
Posted: Sunday, September 07, 2008 - 01:51 AM UTC
Like the ground work. Very impressive.