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Tamiya Challenger 2
Blucop
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Posted: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 12:29 AM UTC
I built this kit out of the box a few years ago. It's a good relaxing build with no problem areas and has the usual Tamiya "fall together" outcome. Compared to the Trumpeter offering, it is a much easier build. I just wish Tamiya would have included the photo etch with the kit rather than making it an accessory item. I have another Chally 2 of this kit on the shelf for super detailing at a later time.

Nice work so far.
Keef1648
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Posted: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 01:16 AM UTC
I thought the color was FS 23448.

Testors Model Master Acryl British Gulf Armor Light Stone (Flat) - Number 4813

Keith.
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Posted: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 02:35 AM UTC
That is looking good... I had experience with the Trumpeter kit itself and am looking foward to the Tamiya one.
seb43
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Posted: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 04:10 AM UTC
Looks Good
Very unique way of building by including the paint stage so early in the build
Will keep an eye on this one
Cheers
Seb
Loobes
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Posted: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 04:59 AM UTC

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Great result with those wheels Loobes. How did you do that ?

Paul


The wheels are sprayed in sand yellow and then the rubber was painted on, its Vallejo dark rubber, then i used my 3/0 brush and painted in the detail of the bolts. Finally i used two different lighter MIG washes to complete the look.

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Looks Good
Very unique way of building by including the paint stage so early in the build
Will keep an eye on this one
Cheers
Seb


I like the style of painting early on and then painting over it a number of times, it makes me feel like i have made progress

Next have the back of the tank to photograph

Loobes
Rattler
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Posted: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 07:18 AM UTC
Looking good so far Lewis,

I'm working on this same tank as we speak... so far I've replaced all the bolt heads on the rear deck an grab handles... did the pipe for the main lights.. guess I should post some photos lol...

bout the only thing I hated doing was cleaing up the road wheels.. god I hate those things LMAO..

But your off to a smashing good job though, looking forward to seeing this progress
Loobes
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Posted: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 07:21 AM UTC

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bout the only thing I hated doing was cleaing up the road wheels.. god I hate those things LMAO..


Yeah, there was a massive mold line on just about every wheel, i took me aroung an hour to take them all off

Loobes
Rattler
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Posted: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 01:07 PM UTC
yeah that sounds about right mate, did you have one t hat it was like a mm off set ? I got 2 kits of the challenger2 just in case.. when I came across that bloody wheel that was so offset I chucked it across the room I had, had enough of trying to mess with it an just plucket another from the 2nd kit.. or the spare box kit ... I've noticed I'm buying 2 or 3 of same kits for when I foul something up.. LOL .. damn hobby is drainin the bank...
nolifoto
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Posted: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 05:39 PM UTC
As a british armor fanatic, I have already built two these and the fit as with all tamiya kits is great. An OOB is enough. You don't have to add anything to it except the Challenger II tarps by Real Models.
Loobes
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England - South West, United Kingdom
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Posted: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 07:51 PM UTC
Anyone know where to buy REAL MODEL stuff from thats in the Uk or USA?

Loobes
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England - East Anglia, United Kingdom
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Posted: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 08:10 PM UTC
In the UK SB models who will be at Telford thie weekend
Sudzonic
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Posted: Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 12:09 AM UTC
I think white ensign models sells real model stuff?
nolifoto
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Posted: Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 12:28 AM UTC

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Anyone know where to buy REAL MODEL stuff from thats in the Uk or USA?

Loobes



I ordered mine directly from Real Model. It arrived very fast. You will need considerable trimming on the inside though. But it will really complete your Operation Telic Challenger. It also include a british ration sheet.
Sudzonic
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Posted: Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 05:49 AM UTC
Hope this helps.

linkname http://www.whiteensignmodels.com/

Loobes
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Posted: Sunday, November 16, 2008 - 02:22 AM UTC
Its been a while since i posted but know the rear end of the tank is complete

Complete with a proper copper wire reel

Also the two engine tanks are doing well, with an original coat of Olive green, a dark was then a coat of olive drab and finally a drybrush and some tamiya weathering pads

A close up of one of them


Also while i have been away i have completed the tracks in Dark rubber and a coat of gulf war sand pigment

Tracks were fantastic, i couldnt even see the join line

and a very good fit on the wheels which you will see more of later

Loobes
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Posted: Sunday, November 16, 2008 - 08:47 PM UTC
Nice work lewis !

How did you paint the tracks ? Did you paint them with a base coast and then mask off areas to paint the rubber blocks ?

They look good.

Cheers

Paul
Rattler
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Posted: Sunday, November 16, 2008 - 11:12 PM UTC
Looking sweet... love the tracks.. lol I threw Mine out.. gonna get the fruil tracks when I'm read to hit that stage.. lol

Keep up the awesome work...
nolifoto
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Posted: Monday, November 17, 2008 - 12:10 AM UTC
Here is another photo of my Tamiya Challenger. I cut off all the oval plastic on top of the engine area. These are supposed to be lift rings so I cut them off, drill holes where they used to be and replaced them with thin brass wires. I also wired the headlights using very thin heated plastic sprues.


gamodelmaker
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Posted: Monday, November 17, 2008 - 04:08 AM UTC
great looking build. i have to add that to my mbt gb that i am planning on doing over the winter.
Kelley
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Posted: Monday, November 17, 2008 - 04:12 AM UTC

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Looking sweet... love the tracks.. lol I threw Mine out.. gonna get the fruil tracks when I'm read to hit that stage.. lol

Keep up the awesome work...


Uhm Chris, you might want to try and get them back if possible, aside from the fact that the Tamiya C2 tracks are some of the best "rubber bands" out there, Friul doesn't make C2 tracks.

Lewis, nice work on your tracks, they look good.

Mike
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Posted: Monday, November 17, 2008 - 04:38 AM UTC
I like the tracks alot! Though I'm not such a big fan of the fuel cans. The weathering looks like silver metal spots that are wipe out. And mud wiped on. Maybe you could redo them? Because the rest of the model looks great! Chipping it with dark and a bit light metal colours would make it way better.

Lars
Loobes
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Posted: Monday, November 17, 2008 - 06:39 AM UTC

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Nice work lewis !

How did you paint the tracks ? Did you paint them with a base coast and then mask off areas to paint the rubber blocks ?

They look good.

Cheers

Paul



Hi paul,
what i did was to spray them dark rubber, then i painted a model air sand on the edges and down the middles and the finally coated them with MIG's Gulf War Sand pigment
Hope that helps


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I like the tracks alot! Though I'm not such a big fan of the fuel cans. The weathering looks like silver metal spots that are wipe out. And mud wiped on. Maybe you could redo them? Because the rest of the model looks great! Chipping it with dark and a bit light metal colours would make it way better.

Lars


Hi Lars,
Off Camera they do look better but in the phots you can see alot of silver, i have decided thanks to your comments to put a drybrush coat of black on and also some MIG pigment to make them look more authentic
Cheers

Loobes
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Posted: Monday, November 17, 2008 - 09:47 AM UTC
Lars,
Are these any better?

I made the silver less promenant and added some Gulf War Sand
Cheers

Loobes
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Posted: Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 01:24 AM UTC
Hi everyone,
Right done some great work this week, sideskirts are done
Here they are pre sprayed and not not shaded

And here they are on the tank

Also i have done the head lights and hull detail

on that picture the armoured wire hasnt been put on yet, i''ll photograph them soon
And i have been working on the gun and turret

Easiest gun i have ever put together and looks good too!
Heres one on the gun optics

optics look really good with the clear peice in front
Here is the Full turret with out gun or detail

and all the turret optics

Later i will have pictures off the turret detail and finsished turret

Loobes

Rattler
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Posted: Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 02:33 AM UTC
[/quote]
Uhm Chris, you might want to try and get them back if possible, aside from the fact that the Tamiya C2 tracks are some of the best "rubber bands" out there, Friul doesn't make C2 tracks.

Lewis, nice work on your tracks, they look good.

Mike[/quote]

Damn the luck.... lol typical ...was hopen that fruil made some.. but luckly I've got a couple more in the cave.. thanks for the heads up Mike Much Appreciated.

Chris