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Tamiya Challenger 2
maximus8425
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England - North East, United Kingdom
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Posted: Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 02:59 AM UTC
The sight lens on the TISH (thermal imager sensor head) which is in the armoured barbette on top of the main armament should be an almost gunmetal colour. This is due to the crystal that it is made out of, it wouldn't have a laser protective coating as it is an electronic sight and therefore there is no direct optical path to anyones eyes.

Max
Loobes
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England - South West, United Kingdom
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Posted: Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 08:26 AM UTC
Hi here are my armoured light wires


Loobes
Loobes
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Posted: Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 08:52 AM UTC
Hi, i have seen this picture
http://www.operations.mod.uk/telic/images/land/rsdg_flag.jpg
I have have tried to re-create it in my own way as a troop made banner


i'm not sure whether i should put it, should i put it on or not?

Loobes
outback
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Queensland, Australia
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Posted: Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 09:35 AM UTC
Nice build.

I'm assuming you're planning on having the Scottish flag with the Royal Scots Dragoons written on it? If so, I wouldn't recommend it. Would you write on your national flag? I wouldn't. Try and find a graphic of the Royal Scots Dragoons penant and use this if you wanted to. As a suggestion, I would only have the British flag and the Scots flag on an antennea. Either one flag on each or Scots flag under the British flag on one. You generally don't get a lot of individual unit flags, pennants, banners etc in the field. Things tend to be vehicle names and national identifiers.

Keep up the good work.

Cheers
Shane
Loobes
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Posted: Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 07:24 PM UTC
Thanks for the advice, i think i'll put a british flag on with the scots flag underneathe

Loobes
Loobes
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Posted: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 - 08:34 AM UTC
Hi guys
Just a quick update, this is the engraved plate i am putting on the base.

The tank is finished but i havent got round to photographing it
Pictures coming soon

Loobes
cyclones6
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Posted: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 - 09:29 AM UTC
Good Inspiration
I'm starting to build a chally 2 with the voyager PE
Evan
newfish
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England - West Midlands, United Kingdom
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Posted: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 - 10:17 AM UTC
the chally looks really good! the tracks are like stunning!

i really wan2 see t finished !!! i thin im going to get this kit now!

are you going to add crew to it or not????

thebear
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Posted: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 - 11:46 AM UTC
Hi Loobes ...Been checking out your build and I gotta say it's coming along nicely ... I noticed a few things you might want to look into ,but it might be a bit late ...First the reel on the back should be more centered and you shouldn't see the hole in the middle ...

Next I added the wire handles to the engine deck too ,but I also added the bolt details on the hinges which is missing from the kit ...


If you want to add a bit of detail to the gun I got help from someone on here when I was doing mine ,but I can't remember who sent this to me but it helped alot (Drawings are by Dan Hay and he gets all the credit for them )..


Another thing ,Tamiya made a mistake with the skirts and the rear piece should fold up over the front skirt ..this is easy enough to do with some Miliput if you want to do it ...

And last but not least your wiring for the lights should go out the the lights on the fenders ..


These are little things that don't really take anything away from the great kit or your build but I thought you might like to know ..
Your doing a great job ..keep up the good work ..I'll be following this one to the end ..

all the best
Rick
bison126
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Posted: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 02:20 AM UTC
Interesting build log. Mine is on its way from Japan and should reach my stash in a couple of weeks so when I have time to start the build your explanations and the associated pics would be of great interest.

Keep on the good work.
Loobes
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Posted: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 02:35 AM UTC
Hi guys,
Yes James, i will be adding the cew, but that will come next, once my sisters has finished using the arts and crafts area for her GCSE art.
Richard i dont know what i was doing when i put that coil on, i'll change it asap
Merry Christmas Everyone :santa:

Loobes
newfish
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Posted: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 02:51 AM UTC
ahh cool what crew u using??

Loobes
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Posted: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 04:37 AM UTC
Hi James,
I will be using the crew from the box, a set of two figures for the turret

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newfish
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Posted: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 04:45 AM UTC
nice i wan2 see the pictures of it fnished

Loobes
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Posted: Friday, December 26, 2008 - 09:36 AM UTC
It is finally finished!










It has been a pleasure for me to have you following my progress
Thank you

Loobes
tomapaul
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Posted: Friday, December 26, 2008 - 11:51 AM UTC
Man this was a pretty nice build.But I think theres something wrong with the color(Very noticeable in the close up photos).
I think you did a black wash and didn't wipe the excess.For good results you must use oil colors and then whipe the excess with a cloth dipped in thinner.
Before a wash you must also use a gloss lacquer(not matt !!!) to protect the underneath color at the "whipeing process".

I do not use full washes at the end stages of a model.I use gloss coat and then apply local washes with a 00 brush.The oil color will go in all the small details using capilarity properties.This way it is much safer.


You can still fix it.Did you use the lacquer(I hope so...).
newfish
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Posted: Friday, December 26, 2008 - 03:32 PM UTC
it looks craking now ive seen it finished the weathering looks great the right fuel drum is on really wonky is that ment to be like that?

one thing the exhausts on the back could do with a burnt effect to bled them in but overall great!

cyclones6
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Posted: Friday, December 26, 2008 - 04:05 PM UTC
Looks good
Not to be super picky, but the main part of the CIPs should be white with a sand colored
frame
Evan
marsiascout
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Posted: Saturday, December 27, 2008 - 12:59 AM UTC
It looks nice, but I think you made it way too dark. Modern tanks don't get that dirty. I tlooks like you made a thick black wash and put it over the entire tank.

Lars
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