Evan, that's interesting using Mk19 cans for the 50cal.
Yes I'm installing the Singars from Proart.

Can someone give me the measurement for the traffic cone? They're an easy scratch.

A totally ignorant question.....a "hardtop" humvee team always consist of 4 crew?
So how much bags/gear will be carried for each crew-if depicting the scenario of moving into "country" from Kuwait, as compared to on patrol already in Iraq....? I figure I should gear-up the 2 uparmored humvees differently as such.

Errr..4 crew team for the Dumvee as well...?

AFAIK, the most common cones are 18" (9"x9" base) and 28" (12"x12" base) cones with reflective collars or not...






Pro Art "US ARMY modern radio satellite communication set" (PAU-35010) includes four bent antenna bases.


HTH
Frenchy

Hi Nick, I have a couple of possible answers for you. When it comes to crews it reallt depends on the type of unit you're talking about, I was in an MP unit in '06-'07 and our normal crew was 3 people, a driver,TC, and gunner. However in a 4 vehicle convoy one of our trucks would also carry our interpretor or "Terp", and often our LT or platoon sergeant would ride in another. Our basic load for the .50 was supposed to be 600 rds., but we carried at least double that,all in 100 rd cans. Also there would be a case of MREs and a water cooler in the empty seat.
Hope this helps.

Hey Henri, long time no speak.

Thanks for the cones info, probably go with the reflective collars.

Cool pic BTW...HTH Gives a new meaning to CONEHEAD!


Roger on proart's set, but I remember that some company sold a set of resin bent antenna bases separately...If I remember correctly, it was something to do with a WIP Stryker and he posted a link.


Joseph,thanks for your info, I'd have to figure which unit to depict, although this commission is without figures..Probably a USMC team... Man I really have little idea about Humvee setups..

Maple Leaf Models set maybe


Looks like two bent bases are included...

Maple Leaf Models

Frenchy

Hmmm not sure if those are it.. Only 2 bent? Darn, maybe I'll for it if I can't find any other.

Thanks Henri.

Hi Nick.

Any update? I've been looking forward to seeing these completed....

Cheers,
Sean

HI Sean, I'll have an update end month. Stay tuned.

lol i can't wait... nice looking models... can't wait to see the end product...

HI guys...

Bad bad slow slow months.. the Humvees are almost ready for paint. I'll post more pics of all the gear and scratch built stuff later on..

But first up.... I got these "LAWs"? long ago in one of DML's weapon sets and can't remember what they are and where's the box!? Seems like 2 versions, opened and closed? Aren't these also used in OIF? What's the difference between the 2 types?
Can I use them on my humvees?


Please check out my SINCGARS set up for all of them and let me know if there's any flaws with the connections.
Also, where do the antenna cables from the SINCGARS go to..never seen any pics of them running along the inside right up to the antennas behind??
And..is the Control Monitor ever used during OIF? Never seen any photos of them!
Please note the Humvees I'm depicting are at the early OIF stage..2003 or so...THANKS!




DUMVEE

4 speakers mounted overhead, the front 2 wiring runs down the middle frame of the windscreen thus connecting to the rear of the SINCGARS.
The rear 2 speakers' wiring goes along one side,down behind the front passenger seat, then under the lower radio "shelf" and up to the same rear connections as the other 2 speakers.
Should I add the Control Monitor?

Also, the smoke dischargers cable I understand usually connects to some "firing" box.. what does it look like and where should I put it?



So that's 2 antenna wiring connected..... But there's 3 antennas with the kit...???? Please explain? Also where do those cables from the additional antennas go?


I replace the resin part and scratched a full new piece... felt more accurate.



"Half-Doors"
Using only 1 VRC, 1 antenna and 2 speakers-- 1 connected from the rear, the other the front of the radio set.


Hope these 2 "tubes" are supposed to be there..seen these in some interior shots...somehow I can't figure what else to put on the underside of the roof...seems so darn bare...




Due to my fantastic organising skills....I can't find where the heck I put Academy's part..so I scratched a new bit.

Somehow I'm not very sure this inner side detail is mearnt to be there on a 2003 Humvee?

Can be positioned...carefully...


"Full-Doors"

"ASIP" set up this time. I added a thin styrene sheet between the two radios..as in photos I seen. 2 antenna wiring,....And again don't know where to stick those antenna wiring...!
The 2 speakers connect to the rear of the radio...1 speaker located overhead, the other on the lower "shelf". ..BTW, Is this Control Monitor used...?

Again..someone have a photo of the smoke launchers' "firing console"??






As you can see I got somewhat lazy and some details are really missing and others compromised..But I would take too long to sort things out better..and these builds are already late!
Next time..I'll get a photoetch set for the interior or the like...would have helped a lot, at least to follow on instead of measuring and all..

Just to tie up those loose ends up once I get some answers from you guys.... then painting's a go.. I'll have photos of the Gear, weapons and what nots, scratched built traffic cones..etc...later on...Hopefully will update my ABRAMS & STRYKER WIPS by then..

THANKS & LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR WORDS>>>>

Sorry, but I couldn't see any indications of lazyness, just extreme painstaking detail. Looks great!

The short ones represent M72 through M72A3 types, before the introduction of the improved launcher. The longer ones can be used to represent the M72A4 and subsequent versions. The M72A3 and prior models were out of service well before OIF. The A4 and subsequnet models might have been present on US Army or USMC HMMWVs, but I'm not sure what the load outs were. I would assume the M136 would have been decidedly more common. There was some story about the US Army reissuing LAWs of various types circa 2004-2005 IIRC, but I'm not sure what happened with that. There was definitely discussion about returning the thing to service with APERS or bunker/thermobaric rockets with confined space capabilities (look up M72E8, M72E9, M72E10).

The extended LAWs are fired, so use those for firing or expended. When transporting, use the closed (shorter) LAWs.

The M72A3 had rocket-motor casing problems due to old age. I heard that the Army issued them "to be used up" from storage but some soldiers who post here said that they never seen LAWs being used (could be because they were banned due to the rocket-motor problem). Other soldiers posted here said that they indeed were issued out in OIF, but I haven't read of any being fired.

The longer M72A4 and A5 versions have different and better rocket warheads that can take not just armor, but concrete and timber. PBS's FRONTLINE showed a Marine firing the longer LAW version in Afghanistan this year so the LAWs are being used by the Marines. Delta Force carried them in Afghanistan in 2003-4 (from an OEF book) into the mountains, but I don't know if they were fired or not, and I don't know which version (just said M72 LAW). None of my printed references stated any LAWs in Special Forces Dumvees of OEF and OIF and into the counterinsurgency. Dumvees often carried M136s and Javelins.

Thanks for your comments and detailed explanation guys... they're surely helpful and I really appreciate it.....I can keep all these little details with my builds as real as possible.

I'm adding one M136 AT4 to each Humvee along with two M72A4s .. May modify the "fired" ones as closed ones as well. Will have to see about the Dumvee though.

But looks like my A3s may join my "not in use" stash...


Now hopefully others will commend on whether I got my SINCGARS set up correctly and smoke dischargers questions...




Oh yes, please don't delete your posts..I'm sure others will find it useful. THANKS!

Just an FYI, here's the whole family (I'm not sure if the experimental variants were ever standardized):

M72 - Initial model
M72E1/A1 - Improved rocket motor
M72A1E1/A2 - Further improved rocket motor
M72A3 - Safety improvements
M72A4 - Further improved rocket (optimized for higher penetration), improved launcher
M72A5 - M72A3 w/ improved launcher assembly
M72A6 - Reduced penetration, improved blast effect rocket
M72A7 - M72A6 for US Navy (HERO Safe?)
M72E8 - Fire From Enclosure M72A7 variant
M72E9 - Improved anti-armor rocket
M72E10 - APERS Rocket

All the models after the A3 use the improved launcher assembly.

COOOOL....looks like I got a lot of googling for images ahead! Thanks!

Man! What a bumber that I came back to Armorama so late!!! I have mucho digital photos of all kinds of HUMMVs that were located on Camp Victory, Baghdad, circa 2005-06. If you are at a point where you might want them for markings, exterior load etc., they are still available. I can e-mail you pictures of uparmorered that match the model you are building. Let me know at "[email protected]"

Jeff

Hey Jeff...sent you a mail.
It's not too late...those pics will sure help with the load up and markings.
Besides, I still have some more early OIF Humvees to make!

THANKS!

Nick, love your work! i will be doing some hummers soon and hope they look as good as yours!

The ammo liners Mouse House make are fantastic. The .30cal liners are called .30 cal as the M113's we use, used to have a .50 and .30 browning machine gun in them. So we have 50cal and 30cal. Even though the 30's havent been used for a few years, they are usually still called them.

THANKS Matt!!!

I intend to get those ammo liners from Mouse House for my other projects, they do look nice. Thanks for the heads up.


Scratched some stuff....the Rubbermaid cooler and 18" cones are for my Humvee, the 28" cones for my Stryker.



A little pictorial on making the cones. I do advise you find a plastic sheet thinner than 0.25mm..or you will have problems curving and gluing the sheet towards the point of the cone.


I used ScaleMaster to convert the 1:1 scale to 1:35. Thus the Cone's height 18" = 13.1mm. And the rectangular base of 9" by 9" = 0.65 by 0.65mm. I estimated the are where the cone meets the base at 5mm + or -. Used a circular template to scrib it out, cut out the uneveness and spin a file to smooth out the circle..





Since the height is 13.1mm, I used an Olfa circle cutter and took a total measurement of 15mm (taking note that around 1mm will be cut off at the top, and the other 1mm will go "into" the base.

Note that the lowest point of the cone is around 5mm wide in diametre, thus you can estimate the total lenght of it "unfolded"...around 15mm. Thus I marked 4 points, giving a lot of excess but enough to make 4 cones.


Stick it in there and you can mark out the excess to remove.

Here's what you want..


Mark out the excess to remove on the rest..

The point that will give you trouble in bending...again.. using thinner sheet will prevent this.


Use those excess scraps to secure both ends of the cones

hold down the glue joints

Not very pretty, but you can clean them up easy later.

Use a round file to get back the shape.
You can probably get 5 cones per circle you cut out..provided you can consistant in your dimensions when you make the bases..

Thanks for the free "masterclass" Nick and that cooler box is fantastic.