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Jupiterblitz
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Posted: Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 10:09 AM UTC
Hello Nige,

"There seems to be capabilty to vary the design of the ambulance slightly including spare wheel location as on here"

That's right, it is also in accord with that what Dr.Sun wrote me.

The only thing to take care of is not to perform a mix of the different types.

(Though experts only might identify those in that case).


Looking forward how you will create the interior...
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Posted: Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 10:18 AM UTC
Hi Marco

Given that the drawings I have are with the roof mounted spare wheel that will tie me to that set up. The interior will have to be a guess at the moment erring towards the bed layout of the more modern pic but obviously lacking the over cab (we call Luton type) box and fittings.

Maybe Dr Sun might have some additional reference pics for the variations on interior for my type of basic box.

All the best

Nige
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Posted: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 11:41 AM UTC

Hi there

Got around to making up the second, van bodied chassis and this time built without a cut and shut. Oh the joy of not mixing up the length on this one.



Comparison of chassis length



How the two look tonight



The white minibus at the back is also a Mercedes and is for a further conversion project to another ambulance. The body comes from a kids toy but should be easily shaped into the van body







Nige
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Posted: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 11:55 AM UTC
Hello Nige,

if you require some more pics it could be helpful for you to contact

[email protected]

He has published this offer on his page. The pics you have found there are a selection only.

Another thing is that Thomas served in the Santitätstruppe so he could give you some more infos.


(P.S. I try to get an answer to your question until Friday...I hope that's all right)


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Posted: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 12:06 PM UTC
Marco,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, You are the man again !!!!!!!



Thank you for that contact. I will get in touch with him. Greatly appreciated again.

I owe you another big

Nige
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Posted: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 12:18 PM UTC
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Posted: Friday, February 27, 2009 - 03:34 PM UTC
New floor and rear seat in van







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Posted: Saturday, February 28, 2009 - 01:28 PM UTC
Hi folks

Worked on the gurny or stretcher support frame for the van body.



Two channels made from folded tin foil carry out trays which gives a really nice scale thickness to the frame.



Supplemented the frame with additional I section and z section plastruct to form a resemblance of the support structure



Also used stretched sprue and wire to resemble the various parts that I understand must lock the gurny into place for transit.



Also made up a tray that sits under the frame made out of tin foil again scored and folded



I have added the bars that I would think control the locking and unlocking of the gurny that will role on castors in the u channels.



I am quite pleased with how the frame sits over the wheel arch



Hope you like

Nige
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Posted: Saturday, February 28, 2009 - 01:44 PM UTC
Nige intereasting, I really like the Strechter cradle!.

Some great scratch building work.

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Posted: Saturday, February 28, 2009 - 10:23 PM UTC
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Posted: Saturday, February 28, 2009 - 11:36 PM UTC
Coming along very nicely Nige, you've got my vote for creativity, that's for sure! Looking forward to seeing your progress with these two...or three! WOW!

Cheers -
Tim
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Posted: Sunday, March 01, 2009 - 04:09 AM UTC
Hi folks

Made the loading ramp for the stretcher cradle. Used a sandwich of thin plasticard and tin foil and rapped the hinge in the tin foil.















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Posted: Sunday, March 01, 2009 - 04:32 AM UTC
Superb workmanship buddy.

The loading ramp looks superb!,

It will look stunning when it's got some paint on it!

SGTJKJ
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Posted: Sunday, March 01, 2009 - 05:15 AM UTC
Great scratchbuilding and conversion building. It looks really good.

Thanks for sharing - looking forward to see more
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Posted: Sunday, March 01, 2009 - 06:28 AM UTC
Had time to make up the support frame for the heart and breathing monitor (I think)

Made the frame from tin foil again using my own form of hold and fold equipment



I have made it so I can glue it to the rear bench seat cussion for placing in the vehicle after painting











As it looks now







Nige
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Posted: Sunday, March 01, 2009 - 09:19 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Great scratchbuilding and conversion building. It looks really good.

Thanks for sharing - looking forward to see more



Jesper and Tim

Thanks for the encouragement,,,,,,,,,,,,, greatly appreciated. Lots of hints and tips from everyone here and on other sites help a lot too.

Nige
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Posted: Monday, March 02, 2009 - 07:27 AM UTC
[size="7"]Don't ya just hate coming across another photo that shows a better angle just after you have finished an area of construction !!!!!!!!!![/size]

[size="7"]Damn[/size]



Will need to adjust the length of the bench seat, floor and tray under the cradle (shorter) and change the support at the front end of the cradle.

I am in two minds about starting again on the cradle as the various stops and levers that hold the gurny on the cradle are a lot more visible on this picture.

[size="6"]What do you reckon?[/size]

Nige
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Posted: Monday, March 02, 2009 - 05:08 PM UTC
I am glad I had to redo the cradle.

I figured out a different way to make the supports that also mimicks the rail system that will allow the cradle to slide accross from the side to the middle and back for loading and unloading of the stretcher or gurny.



Used the tin foil again and formed a u channel around the I section plastic which became the new cross members of the cradle.



Everything came apart easily so no real waste and parts were easily adjusted. I took the oportunity to thin some of the items down and to change the arrrangement of the front and rear supports.





Cradle in the travelling position









And in the load / unload position









Am really chuffed with having made mistake for a change as I would not have changed my construction

Happy bunny again
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Posted: Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 10:58 AM UTC
Did a little bit of corrections and small addition

Revamped the heart monitor support frame and added a strap and buckle all from tin foil




Also aded a couple of tie down straps for some equipment (possibly a folding stretcher) on the side of the rear bench seat. Maybe someone in the Medical Corps can tell me what gets held here normally.


Nige
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Posted: Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 12:07 PM UTC
Very nice construction. Nice work with the tin foil!
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Posted: Monday, March 09, 2009 - 11:08 AM UTC
I thought the gutters around the van are too obvious for them to be ignored especially as there has to be a roofrack fitted with clamps.

How the kit gutters are represented by very basic raised area


I decided to add new gutters from the tin foil again


First the long sections


Linked around the back




Down the windscreen frame




I also found a textured plastic from stationary store folders to use as headlining in the van and cab.


I am hoping the texture will still show through when the ceiling colour is painted on it.

Nige
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Posted: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 10:34 AM UTC
Hi there

Does anyone know if the roof gutters on the cab of the box bodied ambulance extend around the rear of the shortenened cab or if they end at the rear edge of the cab sides

Just about to add these gutters but have no close up pics of the roof and behind the cab.

Thanks folks
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Posted: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 11:05 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Does anyone know if the roof gutters on the cab of the box bodied ambulance extend around the rear of the shortenened cab or if they end at the rear edge of the cab sides



Judging by this drawing you already know


...I would choose the second option.

Frenchy
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Posted: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 11:38 AM UTC
Hi Frenchy

Thanks for that,,,,,,,,,,,,,, although I think you have just shown me a possible mistake that I may have made earlier on by just looking at one angle only.



I filled in the roof grooves thinking that the cab might have been less prone to have been squashed and been formed without grooves

Oh b
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Posted: Saturday, March 14, 2009 - 03:16 PM UTC
Decided that since the bits are the same and the painting process might be easier if done together, I thought I would make the start on the third G wagon

Started life as the long wheel base Rally MB 230 G Paris Dakar



And is going to become one of these





I wimped out of doing a soft top short G as I am not sure if I would get the interior right but if anyone has another of these Revell or Italeri kits going cheep I might just pursuade myself to give one a try after these

The cut and shut process is fairly basic with nice straight cills to get good measurements on and easy to lay off the right angles from to do the cuts





Too late to turn back (either another nice model or more scrap plastic now)



And after the cut this should be the shut





Option two would be to do a soft top but that will be another time I think





Nige