Challenger 2 operation telic.
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Posted: Monday, March 23, 2009 - 09:12 AM UTC
Hello men
so here i am again with another challey but this time it's the challenger 2 from the Royal scots dragoon gaurds 7th armoured brigade THE DESERT RATS.(bloody hell that sounds good)
The british army took 120 challenger 2 mbt's to iraq with the intention of securing the city of basra.................
The kit tamiya 1/35 challenger 2 (desertised).
some reference material....
Voyager model challenger 2 photo etch update.
Thats it for tonight i'm of to watch 24 & heroes.............
neil.
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Posted: Monday, March 23, 2009 - 09:23 AM UTC
OH BOY OH BOY OH BOY!!!!! this is gonna be great!!! cant wait
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Posted: Monday, March 23, 2009 - 09:54 AM UTC
Hi Niel good choice i would't mind doing this kit,
Please let me know how you paint it
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Posted: Monday, March 23, 2009 - 09:56 AM UTC
Just about finished the same kit.. One item i would recomend is the Lionmarc barrel. Its a lot better than the kit barrel. If you go to features and look under tanks there is a great article on building a Accurate Challenger II tank. A lot of good hints a tips on the complete build.. It helped me a lot. Will watch your progress with interest. It is a great kit.
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Posted: Monday, March 23, 2009 - 10:25 AM UTC
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Just about finished the same kit.. One item i would recomend is the Lionmarc barrel. Its a lot better than the kit barrel. If you go to features and look under tanks there is a great article on building a Accurate Challenger II tank. A lot of good hints a tips on the complete build.. It helped me a lot. Will watch your progress with interest. It is a great kit.
Can you tell me which one it is please I am trying to find it
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Posted: Monday, March 23, 2009 - 10:49 AM UTC
The Lionmarc number is #LM20000. Its resin and metal. Whole lot better than the kit barrel. If you look at the box art you can see the seems on it. Tried everything i could do to the kit barrel,but still didnt look right. Hope this helps.
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Posted: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 03:37 AM UTC
I hope this one will be at least as good as your last one! Good luck with it.
Lars
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Posted: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 07:30 AM UTC
Hello calvin,james,andy & lars great to have you all on board
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One item i would recomend is the Lionmarc barrel
Andy i have got one on order for the main reason that it has got the wright amount of sag at the base where the dust sleeve is.
James i will paint the chally firstly in dark green then i'll spray the sand.It will be a few weeks before i get to that stage as i am going to try my hand at the anti-slip finish.
I'll also scratch build some of the stowage and i will try to show a little more about that,but at the moment i can't beleive the amount of fun i'm having just making the wheels.
If there is anything that anyone wants to see or ask then just fire away.........
Neil...
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Posted: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 08:49 AM UTC
One info- don´t use the engine deck screens from the Voyager set. Get the screens from Tamiya or Eduard.
The Voyager set has some "slat" in the middle of the screen, but in reality it is underneath it.
look here Thomas
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Posted: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 09:17 AM UTC
Hi thomas
Thanks for the info
I have completed the boring bit
And i have started to mask the areas that will receive the non slip coating.This is where the fun begins................i think
see you later.
neil.......
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Virginia, United States
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Posted: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 10:15 AM UTC
AHHH, the wheels. My least fun part of the build. One thing i did was fill the sponson empty spaces with .20 sheet styrene sheet.. Made if feel a lot sturdier. Looking to see your scratch built stowage.From pics i could find they dont carry a lot like the Abrams. Looking forward on seeing more.
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Posted: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 10:25 AM UTC
Hi Niel,
Good start mate, what are you planning to use for the anti-slip coating?.
The wheels are fun?, are you crazy? lol
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Posted: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 12:25 AM UTC
Hi Neil,
Looking good so far. What reference are you using for where to put the anti-slip? Looking forward to seeing your progress. Good luck mate.
Cheers, Jim.
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Posted: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 12:36 AM UTC
Nice build so far.
I have not seen that thin tape before, is it Tamiya?
cheers
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Posted: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 06:37 AM UTC
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Looking to see your scratch built stowage.From pics i could find they dont carry a lot like the Abrams.
hello to you all.
Andy you are absolutely wright they didn't carry a lot of stowage from my reference the challys seemed to all car the long camo net around the front of the hull and also a few bed rolls.
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what are you planning to use for the anti-slip coating?.
Hi james
i am going to use a material called aluminium oxide (80/120 brown aerospace) blasting media.I will glue this down with humbrol gloss coat.
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What reference are you using for where to put the anti-slip?
hi jim
i'll mainly use the osprey modelling book plus i have some other books and magazines that are of use.....
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I have not seen that thin tape before, is it Tamiya?
hi rick
no its not tamiya i bought it from ebay a few years ago i think it came from japan i'm sorry i can't really help any more than that.
i'll try to get some pictures up tonight of the anti-slip.
neil..........
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Posted: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 09:14 AM UTC
O.k it's evening update time
The picture below shows the application of the humbrol gloss coat.
The next picture is the aluminium oxide sprinkled over the gloss coat
And here are two finished panels
And after the masks have been removed.
After i have let this dry overnight if i think the anti-slip is to course then a light rub over with some scotch brite will take away some of the ruff texture.
The grey patch is where i painted a small area with mr.surfacer 1200 to see what it would look like under a coat of paint and i am quite pleased with the results so far................
neil...
P.S
Sauceman if you are interested i have found a source in the u.k for the 1.00mm masking tape.
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Posted: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 10:04 AM UTC
Niel your anti-slip panel looks good!.
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Posted: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 10:29 AM UTC
Hey Niel,
Nice work on the anti-slip.
And yes i'm interested in the tape if you can send me the info I would greatly appreciate it.
cheers
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Posted: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 10:37 AM UTC
Hi again Neil,
Great technique for the anti-slip, it looks fantastic. Does the osprey book have a guide for where to put it? Please give us pics of all the places you end up coating. Thanks for taking the time and effort to share your work.
Cheers, Jim.
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Posted: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 10:53 AM UTC
Nice work Mate!
P.s where did you get the model book from? what is in it?
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Posted: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 11:12 AM UTC
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Looking to see your scratch built stowage.From pics i could find they dont carry a lot like the Abrams.
hello to you all.
Andy you are absolutely wright they didn't carry a lot of stowage from my reference the challys seemed to all car the long camo net around the front of the hull and also a few bed rolls.
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what are you planning to use for the anti-slip coating?.
Hi james
i am going to use a material called aluminium oxide (80/120 brown aerospace) blasting media.I will glue this down with humbrol gloss coat.
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What reference are you using for where to put the anti-slip?
hi jim
i'll mainly use the osprey modelling book plus i have some other books and magazines that are of use.....
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I have not seen that thin tape before, is it Tamiya?
hi rick
no its not tamiya i bought it from ebay a few years ago i think it came from japan i'm sorry i can't really help any more than that.
i'll try to get some pictures up tonight of the anti-slip.
neil..........
Rick You can get thin high quilty tape like that at a car paint supply store you have to go to a store that specilizes in car paint. The store I go to have other good products usefull for modeling.
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Posted: Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 04:50 AM UTC
Looking fabulous... Where did you get the Aluminum Oxide powder from man?
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Posted: Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 09:35 AM UTC
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Does the osprey book have a guide for where to put it?
No it doesn't jim but i do have some other magazines and books for reference that are of help to me.
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where did you get the model book from? what is in it?
Hi martyn
I bought the model book from historex and i think it's out of print now. It is an iraqi freedom edition.
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Where did you get the Aluminum Oxide powder from
Hello russell
I borrowed it from work
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Posted: Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 10:19 AM UTC
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Does the osprey book have a guide for where to put it?
No it doesn't jim but i do have some other magazines and books for reference that are of help to me.
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where did you get the model book from? what is in it?
Hi martyn
I bought the model book from historex and i think it's out of print now. It is an iraqi freedom edition.
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Where did you get the Aluminum Oxide powder from
Hello russell
I borrowed it from work
Crafty so and so
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Posted: Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 03:50 AM UTC
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